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Post by ricardogce on Oct 10, 2017 16:08:57 GMT -5
Most of modern pop songs are super bland and dull, a catchy song is a rarity. this is because nowadays songs are built on just one hook. Back in the day, we've had fully formed songs, even for pop songs. Now it's just one line like "bitch better have my money" or "despacito", "dont believe me just watch" stuff like that. People dont remember the rest of the song and dont care, because the attention span has shortened drastically in the past few years, blame social media. The hook is the only thing that will get stuck in their head and that's how mainstream artists are making a carrer. It's not full choruses or songs now, just short advertising slogans wrapped around 2 mins of heavy rhythm during when you can check facebook or instagram. Music is not a kind of art where you sit and listen anymore, it became something to be the background for something else. Ok, grandpa. Did you also tie an onion to your belt, as was the style at the time?  I don't enjoy a lot of current pop. I'm 40. Grunge, britpop, and whatever was labeled "alternative" in 90s US radio dominated my coming-of-age years, so that's my first love as far as pop goes. But there are plenty of artists that write "proper" pop music today, and who wouldn't have been out of place back in the day. Gin Wigmore, Foxy Shazam, Echosmith, All Time Low, Ninja Sex Party, Panic at the Disco, Lorde... Change the arrangements, and they all could have been huge hits in 1995,and they write as complex a piece of pop as any from that era. |
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Post by mossy on Oct 10, 2017 16:10:27 GMT -5
Yes, yes, I already apologized for not paying much attention a couple of pages back  It's not good enough Thomas. 20 press ups please. ;-) |
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Post by standbymoi on Oct 10, 2017 16:12:40 GMT -5
This is the third album he’s released a weaker first single when I’m sure there’s way better tracks on there imo.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Oct 10, 2017 16:15:15 GMT -5
This is the third album he’s released a weaker first single when I’m sure there’s way better tracks on there imo. The Death Of You And Me was great. But I couldn't stand ITHOTM when it came out. Still can't.. |
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Post by matt on Oct 10, 2017 16:16:09 GMT -5
I never thought that Noel will make something different and refreshing... so glad that he made THIS type of record. Refreshing yes. Different - not quite. This song harks back to the BHN Owen Morris era. But yes, I agree. I am glad he is going back to this type of record. I couldn't be doing with another CY album. I think it's got a kind of It's Gettin Better (Man!) vibe going on. Same sense of fun and joy. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 16:16:26 GMT -5
this is because nowadays songs are built on just one hook. Back in the day, we've had fully formed songs, even for pop songs. Now it's just one line like "bitch better have my money" or "despacito", "dont believe me just watch" stuff like that. People dont remember the rest of the song and dont care, because the attention span has shortened drastically in the past few years, blame social media. The hook is the only thing that will get stuck in their head and that's how mainstream artists are making a carrer. It's not full choruses or songs now, just short advertising slogans wrapped around 2 mins of heavy rhythm during when you can check facebook or instagram. Music is not a kind of art where you sit and listen anymore, it became something to be the background for something else. Ok, grandpa. Did you also tie an onion to your belt, as was the style at the time? I don't enjoy a lot of current pop. I'm 40. Grunge, britpop, and whatever was labeled "alternative" in 90s US radio dominated my coming-of-age years, so that's my first love as far as pop goes. But there are plenty of artists that write "proper" pop music today, and who wouldn't have been out of place back in the day. Gin Wigmore, Foxy Shazam, Echosmith, All Time Low, Ninja Sex Party, Panic at the Disco, Lorde... Change the arrangements, and they all could have been huge hits in 1995,and they write as complex a piece of pop as any from that era. New Paramore's songs are quite catchy! And good rock music hasn't gone anywhere. |
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Post by mossy on Oct 10, 2017 16:21:24 GMT -5
It seems I can't hear (Paul Weller playing) organ at all. :/ Someone needs to OOPS this track upside their head. |
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Post by eva on Oct 10, 2017 16:23:07 GMT -5
It seems I can't hear (Paul Weller playing) organ at all. :/ Someone needs to OOPS this track upside their head. this track is already an oops sorry, I had to |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 10, 2017 17:53:23 GMT -5
Since there don't seem to be such thing as single versions that have clean intros/outros in the digital age, has anyone else noticed that Holy Mountain has a little bit of Fort Knox tacked onto the beginning, and doesn't fade out completely? Perhaps Who Built the Moon will be one continuous segue à la The KLF's Chill Out?
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Post by durk on Oct 10, 2017 18:06:09 GMT -5
so i'm out for a long run a short while ago...
i don't run to music.
and there it is...'she fell she fell, under my spell...' pops into my f-ing head, flutes and all.
catchy.
i still don't like it...but maybe it's growing on me?
in the meantime- i bought the new Wolf Alice to cleanse the pallet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 18:06:31 GMT -5
This track is confirming my fears that Noel's voice can't carry an album like this. It's going to full of interesting sounds and bland vocals.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2017 18:15:31 GMT -5
I gave it a few more spins just now, I don't mind it but a little indifferent about it. I can certainly see why some like it and why others don't. What makes me laugh is I'm pretty sure a few who are praising the balls off it have hammered stuff sounding retro before. Is it different for Noel? Maybe a little but this doesn't sound like Be Here Now it sounds like a tune being played in a 60's dance hall with people jiving to it! I don't mind a bit of retro stuff so no problems here. Every time I here the vocal on the verses I can't get C'est La Vie by the Stereophonics out of my head  . I probably prefer that though. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 10, 2017 18:19:35 GMT -5
We all knew Noël's album would probably bring about polarizing opinions, I just hope we can maintain a sense of stupidity around here over next several months....
Thanks.
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Post by glider on Oct 10, 2017 18:21:21 GMT -5
I gave it a few more spins just now, I don't mind it but a little indifferent about it. I can certainly see why some like it and why others don't. What makes me laugh is I'm pretty sure a few who are praising the balls off it have hammered stuff sounding retro before. Is it different for Noel? Maybe a little but this doesn't sound like Be Here Now it sounds like a tune being played in a 60's dance hall with people jiving to it! I don't mind a bit of retro stuff so no problems here. Every time I here the vocal on the verses I can't get C'est La Vie by the Stereophonics out of my head . I probably prefer that though. History will look back at it in a different light than what you read today. Mighty I was polarizing when it released, but now, an overwhelming majority categorizes it as at the very least a solid track. While I don't care for HM maybe I will a few years from now. With that said, there's no need for toxic discussion and pissing contests for Holy Mountain. We're better than that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 18:21:54 GMT -5
...it sounds like a tune being played in a 60's dance hall with people jiving to it!  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2017 18:22:10 GMT -5
We all knew Noël's album would probably bring about polarizing opinions, I just hope we can maintain a sense of stupidity around here over next several months.... Thanks. Pretty sure you'll be able to maintain that all on your own, well you usually do anyway. Good luck. |
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Post by walterglass on Oct 10, 2017 18:23:02 GMT -5
After a few more listens it sounds like a tongue-in-cheek ‘80s charity single that we’d get from the likes of Hale & Pace or French & Saunders.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2017 18:24:39 GMT -5
I gave it a few more spins just now, I don't mind it but a little indifferent about it. I can certainly see why some like it and why others don't. What makes me laugh is I'm pretty sure a few who are praising the balls off it have hammered stuff sounding retro before. Is it different for Noel? Maybe a little but this doesn't sound like Be Here Now it sounds like a tune being played in a 60's dance hall with people jiving to it! I don't mind a bit of retro stuff so no problems here. Every time I here the vocal on the verses I can't get C'est La Vie by the Stereophonics out of my head . I probably prefer that though. History will look back at it in a different light than what you read today. Mighty I was polarizing when it released, but now, an overwhelming majority categorizes it as at the very least a solid track. While I don't care for HM maybe I will a few years from now. With that said, there's no need for toxic discussion and pissing contests for Holy Mountain. We're better than that. I totally agree, I'm not trying to be toxic and wind anyone up for the record. I'm just surprised by how polarising it is given that it isn't far out. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 10, 2017 18:24:50 GMT -5
We all knew Noël's album would probably bring about polarizing opinions, I just hope we can maintain a sense of stupidity around here over next several months.... Thanks. Pretty sure you'll be able to maintain that all on your own, well you usually do anyway. Good luck. Exciting time for you, many petty and ridiculous fights to engage in.... God bless. |
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Post by glider on Oct 10, 2017 18:25:56 GMT -5
History will look back at it in a different light than what you read today. Mighty I was polarizing when it released, but now, an overwhelming majority categorizes it as at the very least a solid track. While I don't care for HM maybe I will a few years from now. With that said, there's no need for toxic discussion and pissing contests for Holy Mountain. We're better than that. I totally agree, I'm not trying to be toxic and wind anyone up for the record. I'm just surprised by how polarising it is given that it isn't far out. I wasn't mentioning you on the toxicity part  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2017 18:27:17 GMT -5
Pretty sure you'll be able to maintain that all on your own, well you usually do anyway. Good luck. Exciting time for you, many petty and ridiculous fights to engage in.... God bless. Avoid most of them these days but if it makes you happy to believe that, it can't be that bad.  |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 10, 2017 18:29:09 GMT -5
Exciting time for you, many petty and ridiculous fights to engage in.... God bless. Avoid most of them these days but if it makes you happy to believe that, it can't be that bad. I'm proud of you..... God bless. |
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Post by spaneli on Oct 10, 2017 18:37:34 GMT -5
I gave it a few more spins just now, I don't mind it but a little indifferent about it. I can certainly see why some like it and why others don't. What makes me laugh is I'm pretty sure a few who are praising the balls off it have hammered stuff sounding retro before. Is it different for Noel? Maybe a little but this doesn't sound like Be Here Now it sounds like a tune being played in a 60's dance hall with people jiving to it! I don't mind a bit of retro stuff so no problems here. Every time I here the vocal on the verses I can't get C'est La Vie by the Stereophonics out of my head . I probably prefer that though. I agree. I don't think it sounds like Be Here Now either. Some of the comparisons on both sides have been completely off. I do think that it has that classic Noel euphoric feeling, but that doesn't automatically equate to BHN. I also don't think it's particularly experimental, but then again it's the single. If there was going to be a non-experimental track released, it would be this one. But I do think it does sound different for him. Not a very guitar heavy track, it's hard to think of a Noel track with less guitar than this one.. It's definitely more chunky too, and the interpolation of the whistle feels like a very un-Noel type deal too. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 10, 2017 18:48:54 GMT -5
For all the people complaining about how loud Holy Mountain is, it's far less of a headache to my ears than either HFB or Chasing Yesterday.
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Post by walterglass on Oct 10, 2017 19:05:52 GMT -5
For all the people complaining about how loud Holy Mountain is, it's far less of a headache to my ears than either HFB or Chasing Yesterday. You’re like St Peter at the gates of heaven, trying to convince the newly passed over that God’s farts don’t stink. |
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