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Post by NicOasis on May 8, 2019 21:12:16 GMT -5
Has Noel ever played Stop The Clocks live, besides that one time in 2003? Does this count? |
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Post by oasismashups on May 8, 2019 21:43:11 GMT -5
Has Noel ever played Stop The Clocks live, besides that one time in 2003? Does this count? Nice one, didn't know that existed. Wonder why he never plays it |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 8, 2019 22:24:05 GMT -5
Has Noel ever played Stop The Clocks live, besides that one time in 2003? Does this count? While I loved WBTM and I support Noel if he wants to try a new direction, it’s beautiful moments like this that really make me miss the old days. May they come back ‘round are way again some day |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 9, 2019 0:20:10 GMT -5
In an ideal world Noel wouldn't be playing more than 4-5 Oasis songs during any gig tbh. Don't fool yourself, brother Thats probably why he said "ideal". |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 9:46:43 GMT -5
I’m not enthused by the setlist, but still looking forward to the gig; worth a tank of fuel and a few hours of my valuable time for sure.
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Post by bt95 on May 9, 2019 10:26:46 GMT -5
Sounds good.
This is the thing, too.
With the new band, they can add so many different tweaks to the songs. The Mexican sounds so much better than it did in 2015/16!
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Post by bt95 on May 9, 2019 10:28:21 GMT -5
But I don't mind the same(ish) setlist from night-to-night, as long as over a tour there's a nice amount of changes. I've said this before, but I'm a bit OCD with things and I like stuff being the same when it's in certain chunks - it's just me. So I would be a bit annoyed if, for example, I went to a gig on a Wednesday, and then on the Thursday he played four different songs that I didn't get to see just cause I went on a different day. I don't know why that's fair. You also are acting like it's not a huge factor that people can see what set is played on the other side of the world and watch vids immediately after the gig is finished/during in it. I bet people are already saying they're bored of SCYHO even though it's been played three times. I'm not clutching at straws. People have absolutely no perspective whatsoever. It's just the done thing to hate on NG now - the last week has proved it. People demanded a 'modern' release, but have still complained. People wanted him to throw new-old songs in - he has done - people are already bored. People wanted him to play new/unheard songs - he has done - people still aren't happy. Like i've said, I agree that Noel can be a bit more adventurous. I think he needs to be braver and ditch HTWA and TIOBI and try some others. But complaints about the other Oasis songs in the set seem strange considering stuff like Talk Tonight and The Masterplan that he hasn't played since early 2016, or SCYHO that hasn't been heard live since one time in early 2005. This tour he's debuted the entirety of WBTM at one point or another, The Right Stuff, Go Let It Out, SCYHO, DITW etc. I like that you defend Noel and believe me, I am having to do ALOT of Noel defending in the last year or so with my friends. I dont disagree with your points on him playing new songs. What i would ask you is this, as an Oasis fan, knowing all the songs he has to offer from that back catalogue - do you not feel like you've heard Its Good To Be Free, Listen Up, Half The World Away, Talk Tonight etc etc so many fucking times and is there a list of at least 10 songs you're crying out to hear? And is there really any excuse for him not to have explored more of these songs and make us feel like we're getting value for money as fans over a long period? Just got round to replying to this mate. Yep, I agree with you, and I admit it's frustrating. I just don't think that means that it's a bad set because other songs aren't played too, if you get me. And I see why the songs that are in have been kept there. |
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Post by sfsorrow on May 9, 2019 11:12:22 GMT -5
Regarding the set list mainstays:
I think that despite Noel's definite interests in experimentation, he is at the end of the day quite shrewd and calculating when it comes to his public persona and always has been. I think that's one of the reasons why him and Liam had a hard time having a working relationship - Noel craved predictability (not necessarily in his songwriting but in just about everything else in terms of the band) while Liam was utterly unpredictable - you didn't know what he was going to say, do, what gigs he would show up for, etc.
Years ago, Oasis were on a tour and in my city of Toronto. He was on a radio show and they read a letter or email that had been sent by a fan. The letter was probably about two minutes worth of the writer begging Noel to play Live Forever at the concert that night, which was a request that the writer probably thought they would hear anyway since it was among the top 5 most beloved Oasis songs and was regularly played live. At the end of the letter which ended with something like, "So can you please please play Live Forever tonight?" Noel simply replied, "No."
Now I'm not saying most artists or even Liam would say "yes" - it would be strange to modify your set list for one fan; however, I can't imagine a scenario where Noel under any circumstance would add something to the list unless he knew that it would be a pretty safe bet. I remember when he took a risk and threw Idler's Dream into the set and he observed that it didn't go over well and it was quickly dropped. Whereas some might say, "Well, I'll add a few of those rotating songs in one in a while and the audience will just have to deal with it for a few minutes," others might say, "I'm not taking a risk like that again until I can be sure it will definitely work." To me, Noel is the latter. Much like when in 95 he refused to let Liam sing Rockin' Chair at that small event because he was certain that Liam hadn't properly rehearsed it yet.
Some might call it Noel being lazy but I do think it's mostly him being shrewd. Like, say, McCartney, he has a sense of what the overall audience wants and also wants to be able to promote his latest work so he meshes those two things together. Whether the approach is right or wrong, I don't know. Certainly it's not right for all artists - I love the idea of the rotating setlist, for example - but I can't really blame anyone for being a bit hesitant to make the choice to float in more unusual songs.
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Post by drummert5 on May 9, 2019 13:19:20 GMT -5
Sounds good. This is the thing, too. With the new band, they can add so many different tweaks to the songs. The Mexican sounds so much better than it did in 2015/16! Wow, that’s interesting. First Les Paul since 2009, first time he’s ever sang the “run run run...” bit, nice use of Ysee... good all the way around. |
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Post by Gerhard on May 9, 2019 13:31:20 GMT -5
Sounds good. This is the thing, too. With the new band, they can add so many different tweaks to the songs. The Mexican sounds so much better than it did in 2015/16! Wow, that’s interesting. First Les Paul since 2009, first time he’s ever sang the “run run run...” bit, nice use of Ysee... good all the way around. He has used the black Les Paul with some U2 support dates |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 13:40:36 GMT -5
Wow, that’s interesting. First Les Paul since 2009, first time he’s ever sang the “run run run...” bit, nice use of Ysee... good all the way around. He has used the black Les Paul with some U2 support dates Yep. Used a LP on In the Heat of the Moment. |
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Post by RUBIKON on May 9, 2019 15:06:25 GMT -5
Has anyone been recording these shows or planning on recording? Would love a bootleg
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Post by bt95 on May 9, 2019 16:40:36 GMT -5
Regarding the set list mainstays: I think that despite Noel's definite interests in experimentation, he is at the end of the day quite shrewd and calculating when it comes to his public persona and always has been. I think that's one of the reasons why him and Liam had a hard time having a working relationship - Noel craved predictability (not necessarily in his songwriting but in just about everything else in terms of the band) while Liam was utterly unpredictable - you didn't know what he was going to say, do, what gigs he would show up for, etc. Years ago, Oasis were on a tour and in my city of Toronto. He was on a radio show and they read a letter or email that had been sent by a fan. The letter was probably about two minutes worth of the writer begging Noel to play Live Forever at the concert that night, which was a request that the writer probably thought they would hear anyway since it was among the top 5 most beloved Oasis songs and was regularly played live. At the end of the letter which ended with something like, "So can you please please play Live Forever tonight?" Noel simply replied, "No." Now I'm not saying most artists or even Liam would say "yes" - it would be strange to modify your set list for one fan; however, I can't imagine a scenario where Noel under any circumstance would add something to the list unless he knew that it would be a pretty safe bet. I remember when he took a risk and threw Idler's Dream into the set and he observed that it didn't go over well and it was quickly dropped. Whereas some might say, "Well, I'll add a few of those rotating songs in one in a while and the audience will just have to deal with it for a few minutes," others might say, "I'm not taking a risk like that again until I can be sure it will definitely work." To me, Noel is the latter. Much like when in 95 he refused to let Liam sing Rockin' Chair at that small event because he was certain that Liam hadn't properly rehearsed it yet. Some might call it Noel being lazy but I do think it's mostly him being shrewd. Like, say, McCartney, he has a sense of what the overall audience wants and also wants to be able to promote his latest work so he meshes those two things together. Whether the approach is right or wrong, I don't know. Certainly it's not right for all artists - I love the idea of the rotating setlist, for example - but I can't really blame anyone for being a bit hesitant to make the choice to float in more unusual songs. <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="11.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 17.91999999999996px; height: 11.56000000000006px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_68746125" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="11.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 11.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 842px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_31975618" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="11.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 11.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 511px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_45555204" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="11.56000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 11.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 842px; top: 511px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_35853427" scrolling="no"></iframe> I also remember reading an interview with Noel (from 94/95) where he says he hates the idea of a band switching loads of songs every night, because why should one person see some songs and another one see another few. It's where the availability issue comes in so much. We are lucky enough that we don't actually have to go to a gig to see something. So the songs become familiar much quicker once we know what we're getting. It all adds up. And then yeh, when Noel picks the same bet (due to the logic you use) it gets a bit frustrating. But it's been disproved that he hasn't switched the set up as he has played 35 songs on this tour, yet the goalposts then get moved (which honestly makes me think Noel just can't do right for doing wrong tbh). |
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 9, 2019 18:12:11 GMT -5
Decent gig tonight - enjoyed it.
Highlights were TIOBI and LBL.
Bad points - too much backing singing overpowering Noel at times.
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Post by fartpanic on May 9, 2019 18:26:59 GMT -5
Decent gig tonight - enjoyed it. Highlights were TIOBI and LBL. Bad points - too much backing singing overpowering Noel at times. I thought this on the videos. Sounding a bit messy at times because his voice isnt as powerful as the lady. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 9, 2019 23:17:06 GMT -5
Decent gig tonight - enjoyed it. Highlights were TIOBI and LBL. Bad points - too much backing singing overpowering Noel at times. I thought this on the videos. Sounding a bit messy at times because his voice isnt as powerful as the lady. Noel Gallagher’s High Harmonizing Birds |
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Post by glider on May 9, 2019 23:32:11 GMT -5
More Chasing Yesterday is needed! Shows how much more he can do with the songs with a proper ensemble.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 0:48:54 GMT -5
Decent gig tonight - enjoyed it. Highlights were TIOBI and LBL. Bad points - too much backing singing overpowering Noel at times. Yeah, great gig! Had a brilliant night. Set list flowed beautifully. Although backing brings a lot to the performance, at times I thought “go away I jus’ wanna hear the man.” |
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 10, 2019 2:47:33 GMT -5
Thought Gem is a bit wasted too as he barely plays on some songs. He's absolutely incredible though.
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Post by lg on May 10, 2019 3:04:26 GMT -5
Thought Gem is a bit wasted too as he barely plays on some songs. He's absolutely incredible though. He'd perfect in liam's band, great guitarist |
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Post by burningrain on May 10, 2019 3:08:24 GMT -5
When he said “Good evening London, we’re the High Flying Birds” it made me sad because he will only have one band in my head. I thought ok Oasis are really gone for good.
But then he played The Masterplan...I hope someday these songs will bring back to him the same memories as they do for us.
Gig was very good, worth the travel from Italy. But I think Ysee sings too much, on El Mexicano I couldn’t hear Noel.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 3:19:55 GMT -5
But I think Ysee sings too much, on El Mexicano I couldn’t hear Noel. This ^ She’s great but definitely too much |
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Post by simmo on May 10, 2019 3:25:31 GMT -5
Oh what a night. I am a tech failure so can't see how to upload on my phone - but spent 2 hours drinking and chatting with Chris Sharrock. Good pics of the aftershow on the StageLeft Podcast insta page
Great gig
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Post by mockba08 on May 10, 2019 6:04:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know of any bars / clubs in Newcastle doing anything on the Saturday post this is tomorrow festival?
Guest DJ's / indie bars etc?
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Post by rorymcbride on May 10, 2019 6:46:07 GMT -5
If anyone's going to the Cardiff Castle show get there early for Buzzard Buzzard Buzzard. A great bunch of lads.
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