There's not 17 songs there that have been played to death mate. 

He's never not gonna do DLBIA.

I don't think he needs Wonderwall but again, can't really argue with playing it.

TIOBI probably isn't needed. HTWA has been played constantly and yeh, could go. 

The rest have been chopped in and out. LBL was played on his first solo tour and dropped by the end of it anyway. It's made a comeback this tour and has been the best reaction of all the Oasis songs - mainly because he kept people waiting until 7/8 in maybe, but still, a good reaction.

It's just getting silly now when stuff's thrown around like he never changes the set. He does. Maybe he doesn't make enough changes. But he's changed it more on this tour than any other tour, including Oasis. When he does throw in surprises (Go Let It Out for example) he still gets slagged off for not doing a version some people don't like. Again, that's absolutely fine if you don't like it, it's personal taste, but the argument that he hasn't changed the songs isn't valid really. It's moving the goal posts.

And like I said, Liam - once he'd settled on a set - kept it the same for the last half of his tour. I see absolutely no issue with that and nobody in the Liam forum saying it was stale... it's like familiarity breeds contempt. 

I don't want this to be like I'm having a go because you're perfectly entitled to your opinion and I half agree with you. I'd definitely like to see some fresher songs in the set. But that doesn't mean that the current set is a bad one. 

There's been mixed reviews. Some people who went loved it, others not so much. Is what it is I suppose. I honestly think a large part of it is seeing the videos and stuff. The set has been changed a lot this tour, but because loads of the gigs have been well documented, it's not really a surprise after seeing it once or twice. It'll be exactly the same for other bands too.

The songs in bold are the only Oasis ones that I'd consider a surprise, the rest are pretty much guaranteed to feature in a Noel set somewhere on the tour. Surely you can see how some fans might get a bit agitated and pissed off by that considering the back catalogue he has to choose from?

Okay fair enough, and yeh I agree.

But he's dipped into his solo back catalogue a fair bit. And as AppleScruff has said, people do go crazy for the Oasis songs he plays.

He can't please everyone. Not everybody who goes to see him will be happy if he plays an album track from an album many consider to be Oasis' worst (I can't think of many casual festival-goers for example, that would have heard Roll It Over).

So yeh, he could be braver with the Oasis songs, no doubt. But if you just focus on the Oasis songs it's taking half of the set out of the equation which IMO isn't really fair either. Because The Right Stuff, DITW, Fort Knox, TMWBTM, BSD, Rattling Rose can all be considered as surprise inclusions too, really.

I've seen him 3 times on this tour. The arena gigs - I could see the issue with playing the Oasis songs so far down the set. I didn't care, but it did mean it risked taking too long to really get people into it. But overall they were by far the best shows I've seen him do, especially the 3rd one in July when he chucked Whatever in too. The sets aren't perfect, but they definitely aren't bad - and I bet most people who aren't members of Oasis forums will be perfectly happy if those sets are played at gigs they attend. 

They're his songs to pick and choose and he chooses songs that work the best for the whole band to work on and play. He doesn't owe the fans anything. They were rehearsing Falling Down last year in soundchecks, we know that. Evidently they/he didn't think it was working right. It's just like how Liam promised Round Are Way but when it came too it he found it too tricky to get right. They'd both rather have a nailed final product - I think that's fair enough. 

He needs to allow Chris to drum on an electric DLBIA!

BSD live isn't god awful so that's encouraging

Two new songs played in soundcheck for tonight's gig apparently.

Fair enough. It is true that Oasis's message was always* (EDIT: frequently) a positive one. I should have been more clear when I mentioned that they were cynical - I mostly meant it in terms of their demeanor and their persona. They were not really the types to talk about love and peace in their interviews in the 90s. Now that Noel has gone the route of this "cosmic pop" though, he seems to have embraced that a bit more.

Also "All You Need is Love" is still a more direct message than "Don't Look Back in Anger" or "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" which really seems a bit more specific and as much as these songs mean anything, the message could be interpreted as "get over it" rather than love one another (hey, that's an Oasis lyric!). 

Furthermore, is the problem that he is doing a cover? If so, I think that's something we just have to accept from Noel - he likes doing covers. Oasis did quite a few and then continued to play some of them live for years, one of which was a Beatles song (not counting Helter Skelter as without looking I don't know if it stuck around for too long). Anyway, I don't think Noel is too concerned about Beatles comparisons.

i can get down w peace & love hippie noel (cute tbh) but AYNIL is just a mediocre song comparative to other beatles songs and it's kind of an uninspired cover imo

and even if he's doing the "cosmic pop" thing it doesn't really fit that well

@ noel: cover some pink floyd ok thanks

I have gone back and forth on All You Need is Love over the years. When I was a kid, I loved it. Later on, I remember that I blared the song down the hall of my residence in university the day after 9/11. But I've gone through years where I found the song utterly boring. But I've gone back to it in the last few years - again, potentially because it's a song that makes sense in dark times and I would hazard a guess that that's why Noel is playing it too.

At the end of the day, though, it was a Beatles #1 hit and really the hit single of the Summer of Love so whether one likes it or not, it has that kind of significance.

Don't fool yourself, brother

I like that you defend Noel and believe me, I am having to do ALOT of Noel defending in the last year or so with my friends.

I dont disagree with your points on him playing new songs.

What i would ask you is this, as an Oasis fan, knowing all the songs he has to offer from that back catalogue - do you not feel like you've heard Its Good To Be Free, Listen Up, Half The World Away, Talk Tonight etc etc so many fucking times and is there a list of at least 10 songs you're crying out to hear? And is there really any excuse for him not to have explored more of these songs and make us feel like we're getting value for money as fans over a long period?