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Post by goletitout1986 on May 8, 2019 0:48:46 GMT -5
The Mexican is an absolute tune!!
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 8, 2019 1:13:45 GMT -5
Was DLBIA full band or acoustic?
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Post by sammaz on May 8, 2019 2:22:49 GMT -5
Would love to hear from people there whether SCYHO was as big a moment as it seems like it could be. Yeh, it was pretty big. |
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Post by Jim on May 8, 2019 4:57:26 GMT -5
Was DLBIA full band or acoustic? Acoustic with Gem on electric solos. |
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Post by mockba08 on May 8, 2019 5:02:18 GMT -5
Why does he persist with AYNL? It's a shite cover and shite way to end his sets.
Much preferred the DLBIA into WAL finale.
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 5:28:40 GMT -5
Right... But in this tour he's played TIOBI (not played since 2011), Go Let It Out (not played since 2002), SCYHO (not played since 2005), Alone on the Rope (played once in 2015?), LBL (not played since 2011), Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me, debuted The Right Stuff etc. The only constant (Oasis) songs in his solo career have been Wonderwall, DLBIA, HTWA. The rest have all be chopped at various points and not played in years. Come on, do you want some more straws to clutch? This is something that goes far as back as when Oasis were going. Loads of other bands chop and change their set from night to night and throw in suprises. Noels set is so lacklustre for someone who could easily fill it with anthem after anthem. Last years ticket sales tell you all you need to know. But I don't mind the same(ish) setlist from night-to-night, as long as over a tour there's a nice amount of changes. I've said this before, but I'm a bit OCD with things and I like stuff being the same when it's in certain chunks - it's just me. So I would be a bit annoyed if, for example, I went to a gig on a Wednesday, and then on the Thursday he played four different songs that I didn't get to see just cause I went on a different day. I don't know why that's fair. You also are acting like it's not a huge factor that people can see what set is played on the other side of the world and watch vids immediately after the gig is finished/during in it. I bet people are already saying they're bored of SCYHO even though it's been played three times. I'm not clutching at straws. People have absolutely no perspective whatsoever. It's just the done thing to hate on NG now - the last week has proved it. People demanded a 'modern' release, but have still complained. People wanted him to throw new-old songs in - he has done - people are already bored. People wanted him to play new/unheard songs - he has done - people still aren't happy. Like i've said, I agree that Noel can be a bit more adventurous. I think he needs to be braver and ditch HTWA and TIOBI and try some others. But complaints about the other Oasis songs in the set seem strange considering stuff like Talk Tonight and The Masterplan that he hasn't played since early 2016, or SCYHO that hasn't been heard live since one time in early 2005. This tour he's debuted the entirety of WBTM at one point or another, The Right Stuff, Go Let It Out, SCYHO, DITW etc. |
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 5:30:36 GMT -5
Why does he persist with AYNL? It's a shite cover and shite way to end his sets. Much preferred the DLBIA into WAL finale. Think it's his way of getting all the band back involved. Don't really see the issue. People always sing along. Would rather see HTWA and TIOBI dropped before All You Need Is Love, though yeh, he could try a different cover there now (if he's really persistent with a cover). |
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 5:40:08 GMT -5
Right... But in this tour he's played TIOBI (not played since 2011), Go Let It Out (not played since 2002), SCYHO (not played since 2005), Alone on the Rope (played once in 2015?), LBL (not played since 2011), Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me, debuted The Right Stuff etc. The only constant (Oasis) songs in his solo career have been Wonderwall, DLBIA, HTWA. The rest have all be chopped at various points and not played in years. Come on, do you want some more straws to clutch? This is something that goes far as back as when Oasis were going. Loads of other bands chop and change their set from night to night and throw in suprises. Noels set is so lacklustre for someone who could easily fill it with anthem after anthem. Last years ticket sales tell you all you need to know. Also, on ticket sales, how could they tell anything about the set when they went on sale over six months before the gigs? It's nonsense that the set impacted those sales. |
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Post by RUBIKON on May 8, 2019 5:47:13 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, full live version of Black Star Dancing from Warm Up Festival
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 5:55:51 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, full live version of Black Star Dancing from Warm Up Festival Sounds so much bigger/fuller live. It'll be too boring for some though... |
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Post by Rolo on May 8, 2019 6:27:56 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, full live version of Black Star Dancing from Warm Up Festival Sounds so much bigger/fuller live. It'll be too boring for some though...Yes it will, and that's their opinion, doesn't make it right or wrong. |
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Post by Rolo on May 8, 2019 6:38:17 GMT -5
Delighted I sold my tickets for tonight. Boring and lazy set list. It's not a bad set at all. What's lazy about it? That he played Wonderwall and DLBIA? Adding stuff like Talk Tonight back in is infuriating and uninspiring. I love that song but fucking hell, he's played it to death over the years. He has an absolute massive back catalogue to pick from and he falls back on Talk Tonight AGAIN, come on man. The only surprise in that setlist is Stop Crying Your Heart Out which is a lovely arrangement and a breath of fresh air, more of that please. The rest is pretty much the same set he has been playing since he turned solo, it's just very dull and I've heard it all before countless times. Chuck Gas Panic in or Roll It Over or something, he loves being experiential these days doesn't he? His set list doesn't show that. |
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Post by Gas Panic on May 8, 2019 6:39:34 GMT -5
Just think some perspective would be nice. Fed up of seeing him get slagged off for 'boring' setlists not changing etc when he's chopped and changed on this tour far more than any tour he's ever done, tbh. Yeh, I'd like to see HTWA dropped for something more adventurous. But it's perfectly understandable that it's in, for example. DITW is clearly a fan favourite. Talk Tonight is, as is LBL (goes off whenever it gets played). The two ? for me in that set are TIOBI and HTWA. Think Heat of the Moment really needs to be in as again it really goes off when that gets played. But guess what, he's got more new songs to come. Perhaps they'll get chucked in. It doesn't matter which way you slice it, this is a boring setlist from Noel. As usual he's done the bare minimum. We knew there would be new material so there's no reason to overly praise him for the two new songs. The only genuine surprise is SCYHO, which is nice. If you think it's a treat to hear Talk Tonight again for the millionth time then you are very easily pleased. I was expecting much more from these gigs. |
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Post by sfsorrow on May 8, 2019 6:43:35 GMT -5
I like Noel finishing with All You Need is Love. I think that one thing he's been trying to do in the past few years is to inject the optimistic and humanist spirit of the 60s into his music and persona. Obviously Noel has always been interested in the whole 60s aesthetic but it used to be blended with cynicism. But I like this shift because I think we need this optimism in dark times, just as I think cynicism was needed in the 90s.
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Post by batfink30 on May 8, 2019 6:55:06 GMT -5
Just think some perspective would be nice. Fed up of seeing him get slagged off for 'boring' setlists not changing etc when he's chopped and changed on this tour far more than any tour he's ever done, tbh. Yeh, I'd like to see HTWA dropped for something more adventurous. But it's perfectly understandable that it's in, for example. DITW is clearly a fan favourite. Talk Tonight is, as is LBL (goes off whenever it gets played). The two ? for me in that set are TIOBI and HTWA. Think Heat of the Moment really needs to be in as again it really goes off when that gets played. But guess what, he's got more new songs to come. Perhaps they'll get chucked in. It doesn't matter which way you slice it, this is a boring setlist from Noel. As usual he's done the bare minimum. We knew there would be new material so there's no reason to overly praise him for the two new songs. The only genuine surprise is SCYHO, which is nice. If you think it's a treat to hear Talk Tonight again for the millionth time then you are very easily pleased. I was expecting much more from these gigs. I was generally bored by the Edinburgh gig. Probably doesn't help I've seen him about 20 times though. Highlight was SCYHO which I haven't seen live for years, the rest was avarage and there's only so many times I can take getting hugged by random drunk 40 year old guys during The Masterplan and DLBIA! AYNIL has to go as a closer, don't close with a cover when you have so many good songs yourself and IMHO it doesn't work. |
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 8, 2019 7:17:05 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to seeing Gem more than Noel tomorrow.
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 7:39:39 GMT -5
Sounds so much bigger/fuller live. It'll be too boring for some though...Yes it will, and that's their opinion, doesn't make it right or wrong. Was just a joke mate  |
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 7:44:34 GMT -5
It's not a bad set at all. What's lazy about it? That he played Wonderwall and DLBIA? Adding stuff like Talk Tonight back in is infuriating and uninspiring. I love that song but fucking hell, he's played it to death over the years. He has an absolute massive back catalogue to pick from and he falls back on Talk Tonight AGAIN, come on man. The only surprise in that setlist is Stop Crying Your Heart Out which is a lovely arrangement and a breath of fresh air, more of that please. The rest is pretty much the same set he has been playing since he turned solo, it's just very dull and I've heard it all before countless times. Chuck Gas Panic in or Roll It Over or something, he loves being experiential these days doesn't he? His set list doesn't show that. Fair enough. I love Talk Tonight and I'm looking forward to seeing how this band - with the girls - add to it. HTWA and TIOBI I would like to see dropped and like you said, a different song thrown in. But my question is, when Liam inevitably plays RNS and MG at the start of his tour this year - which is great and he smashes them - will people accuse him of being lazy too? |
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 7:45:41 GMT -5
It doesn't matter which way you slice it, this is a boring setlist from Noel. As usual he's done the bare minimum. We knew there would be new material so there's no reason to overly praise him for the two new songs. The only genuine surprise is SCYHO, which is nice. If you think it's a treat to hear Talk Tonight again for the millionth time then you are very easily pleased. I was expecting much more from these gigs. I was generally bored by the Edinburgh gig. Probably doesn't help I've seen him about 20 times though. Highlight was SCYHO which I haven't seen live for years, the rest was avarage and there's only so many times I can take getting hugged by random drunk 40 year old guys during The Masterplan and DLBIA! AYNIL has to go as a closer, don't close with a cover when you have so many good songs yourself and IMHO it doesn't work. I keep repeating this like but Oasis closed with a cover for their entire career pretty much. And it was only ever two different songs, bar the Maine Road gigs. Was that consider an issue then? |
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Post by eva on May 8, 2019 7:50:01 GMT -5
BSD sounds so much better live.
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Post by batfink30 on May 8, 2019 7:58:41 GMT -5
I was generally bored by the Edinburgh gig. Probably doesn't help I've seen him about 20 times though. Highlight was SCYHO which I haven't seen live for years, the rest was avarage and there's only so many times I can take getting hugged by random drunk 40 year old guys during The Masterplan and DLBIA! AYNIL has to go as a closer, don't close with a cover when you have so many good songs yourself and IMHO it doesn't work. I keep repeating this like but Oasis closed with a cover for their entire career pretty much. And it was only ever two different songs, bar the Maine Road gigs. Was that consider an issue then? It's not an "issue" he can do WTF he wants, just doesn't work IMO and was also the opinion of the casual Noel fan who I went with last night. Anyway as an aside, the sound was dreadful last night, one of the worst I've experienced at a gig. I think it was because I was high up on the balcony but it was awful, ruined a lot of songs. |
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Post by Gas Panic on May 8, 2019 8:17:13 GMT -5
Adding stuff like Talk Tonight back in is infuriating and uninspiring. I love that song but fucking hell, he's played it to death over the years. He has an absolute massive back catalogue to pick from and he falls back on Talk Tonight AGAIN, come on man. The only surprise in that setlist is Stop Crying Your Heart Out which is a lovely arrangement and a breath of fresh air, more of that please. The rest is pretty much the same set he has been playing since he turned solo, it's just very dull and I've heard it all before countless times. Chuck Gas Panic in or Roll It Over or something, he loves being experiential these days doesn't he? His set list doesn't show that. Fair enough. I love Talk Tonight and I'm looking forward to seeing how this band - with the girls - add to it. HTWA and TIOBI I would like to see dropped and like you said, a different song thrown in. But my question is, when Liam inevitably plays RNS and MG at the start of his tour this year - which is great and he smashes them - will people accuse him of being lazy too? It's well known that Noel has been historically very lazy when it comes to setlists. The same definitely cannot be said for Liam lately given that he played 34 different songs on the As You Were tour. I can't be bothered to check but I suspect that Noel barely played 34 songs across his first two entire tours spanning 2011-2016. Liam was going out of his way to treat the fans on his first solo tour, Noel doesn't give a monkeys. |
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Post by hasseg on May 8, 2019 8:41:45 GMT -5
Fair enough. I love Talk Tonight and I'm looking forward to seeing how this band - with the girls - add to it. HTWA and TIOBI I would like to see dropped and like you said, a different song thrown in. But my question is, when Liam inevitably plays RNS and MG at the start of his tour this year - which is great and he smashes them - will people accuse him of being lazy too? It's well known that Noel has been historically very lazy when it comes to setlists. The same definitely cannot be said for Liam lately given that he played 34 different songs on the As You Were tour. I can't be bothered to check but I suspect that Noel barely played 34 songs across his first two entire tours spanning 2011-2016. Liam was going out of his way to treat the fans on his first solo tour, Noel doesn't give a monkeys. 67 different songs during his solo career (2,5 tours). A shame You aren’t coming to Palladium tomorrow, Jack! |
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 9:08:30 GMT -5
Fair enough. I love Talk Tonight and I'm looking forward to seeing how this band - with the girls - add to it. HTWA and TIOBI I would like to see dropped and like you said, a different song thrown in. But my question is, when Liam inevitably plays RNS and MG at the start of his tour this year - which is great and he smashes them - will people accuse him of being lazy too? It's well known that Noel has been historically very lazy when it comes to setlists. The same definitely cannot be said for Liam lately given that he played 34 different songs on the As You Were tour. I can't be bothered to check but I suspect that Noel barely played 34 songs across his first two entire tours spanning 2011-2016. Liam was going out of his way to treat the fans on his first solo tour, Noel doesn't give a monkeys. Hang on, once Liam settled on a setlist for a chunk of a tour, he stuck with it. His gigs through last summer all had exactly the same set. I saw him in March and at Finsbury in June and there were three different songs. I saw Noel in May and July and there were two different songs. This is what I mean about perspective. I've done a quick count and since starting last Feb, Noel has played 33 songs on this tour alone mate. (EDIT: 35) |
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Post by bt95 on May 8, 2019 9:09:25 GMT -5
It's well known that Noel has been historically very lazy when it comes to setlists. The same definitely cannot be said for Liam lately given that he played 34 different songs on the As You Were tour. I can't be bothered to check but I suspect that Noel barely played 34 songs across his first two entire tours spanning 2011-2016. Liam was going out of his way to treat the fans on his first solo tour, Noel doesn't give a monkeys. 67 different songs during his solo career (2,5 tours). A shame You aren’t coming to Palladium tomorrow, Jack! aye, 33 songs on this tour alone... here's the list: EDIT: Ah, it's 34, I forgot DLBIA haha! edit 2 - hang on, didn't they do Town Called Malice with Weller - so that's 35  |
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