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Post by bt95 on May 6, 2019 7:29:39 GMT -5
Fair enough. I find it weird people getting alienated because if you just don't like something you just don't have to listen. I don't really get the 'alienated' thing. The live shows are great (imo) because the band are so good that they elevate (again in my opinion) already good songs. But fair do's if it's not your cup of tea. Well, for one, I've been paying to hear said songs live for a lot longer than you have, young man, and one more Talk Tonight might be enough for me to start screaming for Force of Nature or something instead and getting rightly sectioned under the Mental Health Act. I'm annoyed that for the last album he constructed an entirely imaginary narrative where having girls in his band would blow all his knuckle-dragging, parka-wearing fans' minds. He's always come up with bullshit stories but I don't remember throwing insults at his fans being part of them before. So that's a big part of the alienation. You're right, I don't have to listen, and now I'm at the point I thought I'd never reach where I probably won't. It's a pretty weird place to be when so much of your life has been going to see Oasis and Noel, you've run forums, you've been part of buying up old songs etc etc etc, but here we are. Like I said, all fair enough, and I admire and respect your decision and all the best to you for it. |
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Post by bt95 on May 6, 2019 7:31:28 GMT -5
He may well do. He was playing a 75 minute set at a festival in Spain, ffs. On his second gig back in 6 months. He's played a song (Lock All The Doors) not played on this tour, brought back Talk Tonight (played once since 2016) and played SCYHO, a song not played in 14 years. He also debuted a new song. Perspective. Your complaint literally seems to be "but he's played the WRONG old Oasis song" in regards to SCYHO. We'll see what the sets this week have to offer. LTLSALOM was played once or twice in the U.S. last year before it was dropped for The Right Stuff (at the time a live debut). Alone On The Rope also got played just the once, at that special radio gig in Manchester. Overall, on the Moon tour, he's debuted (for HFB) the following songs: - All of the WBTM album at one point or another (The Man Who Built The Moon only played twice) - Dead In The Water - Go Let It Out - All You Need Is Love - The Right Stuff - Stop Crying Your Heart Out - Black Star Dancing - Married With Children (played at a charity gig in Feb) You're looking there at 17 songs new to that band in the year or so of touring. <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 17.91999999999996px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_46864902" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 842px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_23338387" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 103px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_51760814" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 842px; top: 103px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21961015" scrolling="no"></iframe> No. It has nothing to do with playing the "wrong" songs. Noel has a giant back catalog of material and doesn't need to do covers, especially Beatles' ones. I'm just saying instead of old Oasis singles he could bring out b-sides and no need for covers anywhere in his setlist. He'll probably prove me right (I hope). I know your entire argument wasn't that - but it's what you said in regards to SCYHO. I agree entirely it'd be nice to see some more rarities. But there have been plenty of new songs coming in in the last 18 months. |
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Post by fartpanic on May 6, 2019 9:39:55 GMT -5
Noels gonna get a fucking big shock if he thinks he can have such a lazy set list again and sell out arenas.
The first tour as HFB escalate to Arenas because half his set was Oasis songs.
Having an arrogant Paul Weller attitude and playing mostly songs no one is that interested in (and the same ones at that) is be suprised if he sells out one arena when the tickets go on sale again.
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Post by bt95 on May 6, 2019 12:32:23 GMT -5
Noels gonna get a fucking big shock if he thinks he can have such a lazy set list again and sell out arenas. The first tour as HFB escalate to Arenas because half his set was Oasis songs. Having an arrogant Paul Weller attitude and playing mostly songs no one is that interested in (and the same ones at that) is be suprised if he sells out one arena when the tickets go on sale again. So you think playing rare Oasis b-sides would sell out arenas? |
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Post by fartpanic on May 6, 2019 12:43:38 GMT -5
Noels gonna get a fucking big shock if he thinks he can have such a lazy set list again and sell out arenas. The first tour as HFB escalate to Arenas because half his set was Oasis songs. Having an arrogant Paul Weller attitude and playing mostly songs no one is that interested in (and the same ones at that) is be suprised if he sells out one arena when the tickets go on sale again. So you think playing rare Oasis b-sides would sell out arenas? No ones asking for obscurity. He has an incredible back catalogue of well known songs and playing the same select few for so long is incredibly tedious. I know so many people who didn't go to the last tour because a) the new album was perceived as very poor and b) the setlist had nowhere near enough oasis songs to justify the price of the ticket. |
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Post by freddy838 on May 6, 2019 12:46:27 GMT -5
Why All You Need Is Love? Noel has many great songs to choose from and he ends the setlist with a cover. Oasis ended every gig they ever did with a cover apart from on the Be Here Now and Familiar To Millions tours. I always thought the Helter Skelter cover was underrated. It seemed to suit Noel's voice and Gem rocked his bollocks off with his guitar playing, Andy's bass was brilliant and you could tell Alan enjoyed drumming it. I'd rather he dusted that off than AYNIL again which sounds incredibly cheesy. |
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Post by bt95 on May 6, 2019 13:32:29 GMT -5
So you think playing rare Oasis b-sides would sell out arenas? No ones asking for obscurity. He has an incredible back catalogue of well known songs and playing the same select few for so long is incredibly tedious. I know so many people who didn't go to the last tour because a) the new album was perceived as very poor and b) the setlist had nowhere near enough oasis songs to justify the price of the ticket. Right... But in this tour he's played TIOBI (not played since 2011), Go Let It Out (not played since 2002), SCYHO (not played since 2005), Alone on the Rope (played once in 2015?), LBL (not played since 2011), Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me, debuted The Right Stuff etc. The only constant (Oasis) songs in his solo career have been Wonderwall, DLBIA, HTWA. The rest have all be chopped at various points and not played in years. |
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Post by bt95 on May 6, 2019 13:33:18 GMT -5
Oasis ended every gig they ever did with a cover apart from on the Be Here Now and Familiar To Millions tours. I always thought the Helter Skelter cover was underrated. It seemed to suit Noel's voice and Gem rocked his bollocks off with his guitar playing, Andy's bass was brilliant and you could tell Alan enjoyed drumming it. I'd rather he dusted that off than AYNIL again which sounds incredibly cheesy. Yeh, I really love the live version of that cover. Don't think it would work with the vibe the current band have, though, unfortunately. |
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Post by AppleScruff on May 7, 2019 11:17:41 GMT -5
Front row tonight at the Playhouse in Edinburgh. Off to meet Bell boy for a beer before the gig.
Would love if Noel could pull a few surprises in the second half of the set. We live in hope!
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 7, 2019 11:45:36 GMT -5
Front row tonight at the Playhouse in Edinburgh. Off to meet Bell boy for a beer before the gig. Would love if Noel could pull a few surprises in the second half of the set. We live in hope! I'm going on Thursday - stage times for Gaz Coombes would be appreciated! |
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2019 11:48:18 GMT -5
Front row tonight at the Playhouse in Edinburgh. Off to meet Bell boy for a beer before the gig. Would love if Noel could pull a few surprises in the second half of the set. We live in hope! I'm going on Thursday - stage times for Gaz Coombes would be appreciated! |
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2019 11:49:07 GMT -5
Having listened to Jess' interview, I think there's a good chance The Masterplan is coming back...
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 7, 2019 13:01:28 GMT -5
So are we getting new songs (plural) tonight or what? What are the odds?
Or, let me guess, It's Good to Be Free, followed by Talk Tonight, followed by Dream On, blah, blah, blah......
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Post by batfink30 on May 7, 2019 13:04:53 GMT -5
So are we getting new songs (plural) tonight or what? What are the odds? Or, let me guess, It's Good to Be Free, followed by Talk Tonight, followed by Dream On, blah, blah, blah...... Guess it'll be BSD with set list from last year with SCYHO as a "new" song. |
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Post by hasseg on May 7, 2019 16:56:01 GMT -5
Wow!
That is a great setlist!!!
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Post by hasseg on May 7, 2019 16:57:32 GMT -5
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Post by Rolo on May 7, 2019 16:59:38 GMT -5
Delighted I sold my tickets for tonight. Boring and lazy set list.
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2019 17:33:23 GMT -5
Delighted I sold my tickets for tonight. Boring and lazy set list. It's not a bad set at all. What's lazy about it? That he played Wonderwall and DLBIA? |
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2019 17:35:20 GMT -5
So are we getting new songs (plural) tonight or what? What are the odds? Or, let me guess, It's Good to Be Free, followed by Talk Tonight, followed by Dream On, blah, blah, blah...... Guess it'll be BSD with set list from last year with SCYHO as a "new" song. Not really. Two new songs. El Mexicano played (not sure if that's the instrumental tho???), Masterplan back, Talk Tonight back. People love to slate Noel. If Liam had done a similar set (i.e. 4 songs off AYW, two new songs and then some Oasis classics) people would be creaming themselves. |
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2019 17:37:33 GMT -5
For those who miss the link:
1. Fort Knox
2. Holy Mountain
3. Beautiful World
4. She Taught Me How To Fly
5. Black Star Dancing
6. Rattling Rose
7. Talk Tonight
8. The Importance Of Being Idle
9. Little By Little
10. Dead In The Water
11. El Mexicano
12. If I Had A Gun
13. Lock All The Doors
14. The Masterplan
15. Wonderwall
16. Half The World Away
17. Stop Crying Your Heart Out
18. AKA... What A Life!
19. DLBIA
20. AYNIL
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Post by bt95 on May 7, 2019 17:42:10 GMT -5
Just think some perspective would be nice.
Fed up of seeing him get slagged off for 'boring' setlists not changing etc when he's chopped and changed on this tour far more than any tour he's ever done, tbh.
Yeh, I'd like to see HTWA dropped for something more adventurous. But it's perfectly understandable that it's in, for example.
DITW is clearly a fan favourite. Talk Tonight is, as is LBL (goes off whenever it gets played).
The two ? for me in that set are TIOBI and HTWA. Think Heat of the Moment really needs to be in as again it really goes off when that gets played.
But guess what, he's got more new songs to come. Perhaps they'll get chucked in.
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Post by fartpanic on May 7, 2019 18:41:43 GMT -5
For those who miss the link: 1. Fort Knox 2. Holy Mountain 3. Beautiful World 4. She Taught Me How To Fly 5. Black Star Dancing 6. Rattling Rose 7. Talk Tonight 8. The Importance Of Being Idle 9. Little By Little 10. Dead In The Water 11. El Mexicano 12. If I Had A Gun 13. Lock All The Doors 14. The Masterplan 15. Wonderwall 16. Half The World Away 17. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 18. AKA... What A Life! 19. DLBIA 20. AYNIL When you say the abbreviation for All You Need Is Love out loud, it sounds like a scouser asking his wife for bum sex |
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Post by fartpanic on May 7, 2019 18:44:18 GMT -5
No ones asking for obscurity. He has an incredible back catalogue of well known songs and playing the same select few for so long is incredibly tedious. I know so many people who didn't go to the last tour because a) the new album was perceived as very poor and b) the setlist had nowhere near enough oasis songs to justify the price of the ticket. Right... But in this tour he's played TIOBI (not played since 2011), Go Let It Out (not played since 2002), SCYHO (not played since 2005), Alone on the Rope (played once in 2015?), LBL (not played since 2011), Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me, debuted The Right Stuff etc. The only constant (Oasis) songs in his solo career have been Wonderwall, DLBIA, HTWA. The rest have all be chopped at various points and not played in years. Come on, do you want some more straws to clutch? This is something that goes far as back as when Oasis were going. Loads of other bands chop and change their set from night to night and throw in suprises. Noels set is so lacklustre for someone who could easily fill it with anthem after anthem. Last years ticket sales tell you all you need to know. |
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Post by Manualex on May 7, 2019 19:16:52 GMT -5
Noel and Liam arent Pearl Jam or any other band that likes to swap their setlist every gig. If you want to hear some specific song there's always the studio version.
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Post by drummert5 on May 7, 2019 19:19:28 GMT -5
Would love to hear from people there whether SCYHO was as big a moment as it seems like it could be.
I’m sure it’s an enjoyable set, and I’m glad Lock All The Doors is back, although it’s unfortunate that (a) we’re almost 50/50 HFB vs Oasis, as opposed to 75/25 last year, and (b) of all the songs you could pick, why The Mexican?!
Oh, and (c) I hope The Man Who Built The Moon resurfaces soon. Would be great at the big gigs.
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