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Post by The Escapist on Aug 17, 2017 11:12:12 GMT -5
Fuck I'm really starting to wish Noel remixed the whole album the way he did with DYKWIM?, not because it necessarily needs it just because I'm really curious to see how songs like The Girl In The Dirty Shirt and It's Getting Better (Man!!) would sound. I know this is probably an unpopular opinion but I'd rather Noel release this than a new NGHFB album.Hmm. Considering how promising some of the signs for LP3 are, I might not go that far - but, God, I really want Noel to remix the rest of the album. The DYKWIM rethink isn't perfect, but it brings out an awful lot of features to the song that I wouldn't have noticed before. With songs that don't really call for that guitar-overload arrangement like DYKWIM arguably (Magic Pie, Stand By Me, The Girl in the Dirty Shirt, Don't Go Away), the improvement could be drastic.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 17, 2017 12:34:54 GMT -5
As much as I love Be Here Now, it does need remixing. Just not by Noel.
Noel's admitted now that he shouldn't've been involved with the mixing process, and that it should have just been left to Owen Morris to take care of on his own (whilst sober!), or to someone from the outside who'd not been living with the songs for six months. So why should he be the one doing the re-mixing? He fucked it up the first time round, and his current opinion of the record is massively out of step with that of many Oasis fans. I mean, the very things he's spent the last 17 years disparaging it for - its length, and his lead guitar playing on it - are what many of the album's most vociferous champions appreciate the most about it!
If the album is ever to be made right, it needs someone from the outside who understands its appeal to some people, to come in and take away the unnecessary layers of rhythm guitar that have muddied the mixes, pushing out the bass and made piercing the higher frequencies, but NOT touch any of the overdubbed lead guitar or string sections, etc. that make the songs so distinctive, and absolutely on NO ACCOUNT reduce its runtime. We need our Giles Martin, basically. Someone who's clued into how records should sound in 2017, but who will also hold the original work in great reverence when he's going through the master tapes, deciding what stays and what goes.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 17, 2017 13:16:00 GMT -5
As much as I love Be Here Now, it does need remixing. Just not by Noel. Noel's admitted now that he shouldn't've been involved with the mixing process, and that it should have just been left to Owen Morris to take care of on his own (whilst sober!), or to someone from the outside who'd not been living with the songs for six months. So why should he be the one doing the re-mixing? He fucked it up the first time round, and his current opinion of the record is massively out of step with that of many Oasis fans. I mean, the very things he's spent the last 17 years disparaging it for - its length, and his lead guitar playing on it - are what many of the album's most vociferous champions appreciate the most about it! If the album is ever to be made right, it needs someone from the outside who understands its appeal to some people, to come in and take away the unnecessary layers of rhythm guitar that have muddied the mixes, pushing out the bass and made piercing the higher frequencies, but NOT touch any of the overdubbed lead guitar or string sections, etc. that make the songs so distinctive, and absolutely on NO ACCOUNT reduce its runtime. We need our Giles Martin, basically. Someone who's clued into how records should sound in 2017, but who will also hold the original work in great reverence when he's going through the master tapes, deciding what stays and what goes. Personally, I'd like to see the lead guitar on Don't Go Away thrown into a burning vat of hell.
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Post by rekrelf on Aug 19, 2017 0:25:27 GMT -5
I was 14 and moving to the middle of nowhere... this album was my closest friend. LOL. 100% same for me. I was 14 too and at the day of release I told my parents that I'm sick. They left house in the morning for work and I did go by bike to the record shop. I was for days or weeks in another world. Never had that again in my life.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 19, 2017 1:32:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 14:34:16 GMT -5
They'll never be an album like Be Here Now again and for that reason it should be treasured. I think Noel did the right thing of leaving the rest of the album alone, let the youth experience what we did.
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Post by Derrick on Aug 20, 2017 14:09:53 GMT -5
What I notice in all those "Be here now" reappraisal articles, is that the journalists say the album is bloated & overlong but that there are great songs in it, but they don't agree on which ones, apart from "D'you know what I mean?": Stereogum mentions "Fade in-out" & "Be here now", others said "My big mouth", "I hope, I think, I know" & "Don't go away" are highlights, another one liked the poppy "The girl in the dirty shirt" & the exuberant "It's gettin' better (man!!)", in yet another article "Stand by me" & "All around the world" were praised (the latter as a great Beatlesque moment, even if a tad long)... This shows this isn't such a bad album, otherwise its detractors would easily agree on its few highlights.
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 20, 2017 14:18:41 GMT -5
YER SHIT JOKES REMIND ME OF DIGSY'S
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 5:14:41 GMT -5
Be Here Now discussed on BBC 6 Music. Starts around 2:41:10.
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Post by carlober on Aug 21, 2017 6:02:59 GMT -5
Be Here Now is now trending on Twitter in Italy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 7:14:25 GMT -5
Happy 20th Be Here Now. I'm going to play you mega fucking loud when I finish work hope the neighbours appreciate you like I do x
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 7:22:44 GMT -5
They'll never be an album like Be Here Now again and for that reason it should be treasured. I think Noel did the right thing of leaving the rest of the album alone, let the youth experience what we did. The catch here is that the youth of today cannot possibly experience the album how we (those around when it dropped in 1997) did. The build up to Be Here Now was massive. Anyone stumbling upon the record today will never be able to get that level of anticipation. Quite the opposite in fact. They'll listen to it with the knowledge that it is overblown, cocaine rock at its worst. This will skew their perception for sure. For that reason, I say... Noel, go ahead you lazy tosser and remix the whole album. Might as well.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 21, 2017 7:33:09 GMT -5
As much as I love Be Here Now, it does need remixing. Just not by Noel. Noel's admitted now that he shouldn't've been involved with the mixing process, and that it should have just been left to Owen Morris to take care of on his own (whilst sober!), or to someone from the outside who'd not been living with the songs for six months. So why should he be the one doing the re-mixing? He fucked it up the first time round, and his current opinion of the record is massively out of step with that of many Oasis fans. I mean, the very things he's spent the last 17 years disparaging it for - its length, and his lead guitar playing on it - are what many of the album's most vociferous champions appreciate the most about it! If the album is ever to be made right, it needs someone from the outside who understands its appeal to some people, to come in and take away the unnecessary layers of rhythm guitar that have muddied the mixes, pushing out the bass and made piercing the higher frequencies, but NOT touch any of the overdubbed lead guitar or string sections, etc. that make the songs so distinctive, and absolutely on NO ACCOUNT reduce its runtime. We need our Giles Martin, basically. Someone who's clued into how records should sound in 2017, but who will also hold the original work in great reverence when he's going through the master tapes, deciding what stays and what goes. BIB - I agree with that wholeheartedly! NEVER touch them! The guitars are perfect on the whole album
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Post by heathenchemist01 on Aug 21, 2017 9:00:41 GMT -5
As every year, my plan is to stay calm but I guess I'll have played air guitar like crazy and sung my heart out by this evening. My family won't be pleased
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Post by mossy on Aug 21, 2017 10:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 10:41:07 GMT -5
The article ends before they actually give any rehashing of the album. I thought it might be going somewhere,and then nothing.
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Post by Elias on Aug 21, 2017 10:52:30 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 21, 2017 11:29:08 GMT -5
I got Oasis' third album, Be Here Now, for Christmas in 1997. I was 10 at the time and it was not only my first Oasis album, it was also my first ever album I ever owned.
The next day, I rushed out to use my Xmas money on a JVC portable CD player - which lasted me several years, mind, and is still knocking around somewhere in my room.
Top album. Top band. Mad fer it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 12:07:23 GMT -5
It makes me laugh when I think about the average middle aged woman who at the time loved Wonderwall and She's Electric so buys Be Here Now and hears My Big Mouth for the first time.
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Post by mossy on Aug 21, 2017 12:24:21 GMT -5
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Post by wylliejack on Aug 21, 2017 12:34:31 GMT -5
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BE HERE NOW YOU COKED UP ABSOLUTE FUCKING MESS OF AN ALBUM, I WOULDN'T HAVE YOU ANY OTHER WAY
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Post by Derrick on Aug 21, 2017 12:43:25 GMT -5
I discovered "Be here now" in 1998 (along with "(What's the story) Morning glory?"), it became one of my favourite ever albums, & I still love it as much 19 years later!
Happy 20th birthday to this fantastic album!
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Post by Hazed on Aug 21, 2017 13:44:26 GMT -5
thought id chuck this lil edit together considering its 20 years
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Post by jxing on Aug 21, 2017 17:38:53 GMT -5
I was 17... miss the '90s
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 18:44:05 GMT -5
This album is the prime example of what hype can do to a record. It´s not a bad record by any means, i actually consider it good but it was blown out of proposition and suffered the backlash it deserved. It has a soft spot though for me because it´s the last mark of Oasis MK1. And tunes like Be Here Now, My Big Mouth, DYKWIM and Don´t Go Away are mega as well.
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