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Post by OasisDG on Aug 10, 2017 11:15:48 GMT -5
I've listened to it a tonne today and I genuinely feel that had it been on any of the post 2000 Oasis albums we would be talking about a highlight. The vocals sound more new Liam rather than old Liam especially the line at the end of each chorus but they are still silky smooth and powerful I did say this morning that he is going to struggle with this live but then I thought he would with WOG too and apart from a dodgy gig here and there I think the band have let him down more than him missing notes. All in all I am absolutely buzzing and considering a majority of people really like Greedy Soul, Bold etc from the live versions I really think we are onto a winner here. I can see why people don't want to form quick opinions but if you compare the first three tracks we heard from each of the BE albums these songs completely blow them out of the water which is 10x what we all expected earlier this year. Well done LG you've stuck two fingers up in the best way possible. Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew. It's true for me but I'm sure not everyone shares that opinion. Don't get me wrong I liked those songs but I liked them because I liked the band. The songs released so far by LG are more immediate and catchy not to mention that he sounds far better which is the while reason I got into Oasis in the first place, the voice.
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Post by jxing on Aug 10, 2017 11:17:41 GMT -5
Lyric video on his YouTube
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Aug 10, 2017 11:19:09 GMT -5
I've listened to it a tonne today and I genuinely feel that had it been on any of the post 2000 Oasis albums we would be talking about a highlight. The vocals sound more new Liam rather than old Liam especially the line at the end of each chorus but they are still silky smooth and powerful I did say this morning that he is going to struggle with this live but then I thought he would with WOG too and apart from a dodgy gig here and there I think the band have let him down more than him missing notes. All in all I am absolutely buzzing and considering a majority of people really like Greedy Soul, Bold etc from the live versions I really think we are onto a winner here. I can see why people don't want to form quick opinions but if you compare the first three tracks we heard from each of the BE albums these songs completely blow them out of the water which is 10x what we all expected earlier this year. Well done LG you've stuck two fingers up in the best way possible. Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew. All 6 songs you mentioned are absolute turd
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Post by dontlookbackinanger on Aug 10, 2017 11:23:02 GMT -5
21st anniversary of Knebworth.
Nice.
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 10, 2017 11:23:03 GMT -5
Do we have anything from the gig in 🇨🇳 yet? Idk how the time works that far away. I hope he sold a lot of tickets bc that's a big place not to have a lot of people in there
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Post by ariananana on Aug 10, 2017 11:39:02 GMT -5
Loving those verses which far outweigh the chorus..... however, overall as one song, mixed with all the others we have heard.... bring on that record!
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Post by jxing on Aug 10, 2017 11:42:14 GMT -5
Do we have anything from the gig in 🇨🇳 yet? Idk how the time works that far away. I hope he sold a lot of tickets bc that's a big place not to have a lot of people in there Clips on the festival post
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Post by Plantpot on Aug 10, 2017 11:45:35 GMT -5
Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew. It's true for me but I'm sure not everyone shares that opinion. Don't get me wrong I liked those songs but I liked them because I liked the band. The songs released so far by LG are more immediate and catchy not to mention that he sounds far better which is the while reason I got into Oasis in the first place, the voice. OasisDG , methinks this makes for an interesting poll. Do you agree?
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 10, 2017 11:46:19 GMT -5
Do we have anything from the gig in 🇨🇳 yet? Idk how the time works that far away. I hope he sold a lot of tickets bc that's a big place not to have a lot of people in there Clips on the festival post thanks
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Post by jxing on Aug 10, 2017 11:53:28 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2017 12:02:40 GMT -5
Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew. All 6 songs you mentioned are absolute turd I rate Four Letter Word and Flick of The Finger as some of the best post 2000 Gallagher material.
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Post by OasisDG on Aug 10, 2017 12:07:57 GMT -5
It's true for me but I'm sure not everyone shares that opinion. Don't get me wrong I liked those songs but I liked them because I liked the band. The songs released so far by LG are more immediate and catchy not to mention that he sounds far better which is the while reason I got into Oasis in the first place, the voice. OasisDG , methinks this makes for an interesting poll. Do you agree? Can't be any more unwarranted than some of them!
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Post by oasis6 on Aug 10, 2017 12:27:20 GMT -5
Hmm those live clips, vocally sounds a bit rough. The song is flat too, as we've learned through the tour... Glad we heard the studio version first, but I now have high hopes and excitement for all the studio stuff on the way.
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 10, 2017 12:37:37 GMT -5
Thank you for pointing out that it sounds like Robbie Williams, now I hate the song :-)
But seriously, there is nothing that bad about it. Robbie's Williams is much more to Oasis/Liam's/Noel's music than they will ever admit. Just like Oasis in the 90s was making very similar music like 90s Radiohead. More similar than both bands will ever admit.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Aug 10, 2017 12:46:00 GMT -5
Thank you for pointing out that it sounds like Robbie Williams, now I hate the song :-) But seriously, there is nothing that bad about it. Robbie's Williams is much more to Oasis/Liam's/Noel's music than they will ever admit. Just like Oasis in the 90s was making very similar music like 90s Radiohead. More similar than both bands will ever admit. They were? I guess you could say Radiohead also had their more poppy moments on The Bends but really there is very little similarity. Radiohead were more borderline commercial at some points than people remember though. In reality, they weren't that alike at all. While Oasis delved further into dad rock dirge with Be Here Now, Radiohead went on to create OK Computer, one of the greatest albums of all time. I think them doing OK Computer and Blur doing their "Blur" album and later "13" really set them apart from the rest of the British bands that come out of that period and musically left all the others behind, including Oasis. Williams on the other hand did take a lot from Oasis and also probably the rest of the generic "britpop" stuff of the time like Embrace and whatnot. Re-Packaged it into a more pop form and went absolutely massive. There's no denying he or his team saw a gap in the market to bridge pure pop with the britpop sound, more than anyone else had at the time.
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Post by akaidleroses on Aug 10, 2017 12:53:25 GMT -5
I love it and it's his best solo tune so far. It's both epic and subtle at the same time with a quality vocal delivered in a heartfelt manner.
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 10, 2017 12:54:23 GMT -5
Thank you for pointing out that it sounds like Robbie Williams, now I hate the song :-) But seriously, there is nothing that bad about it. Robbie's Williams is much more to Oasis/Liam's/Noel's music than they will ever admit. Just like Oasis in the 90s was making very similar music like 90s Radiohead. More similar than both bands will ever admit. They were? I guess you could say Radiohead also had their more poppy moments on The Bends but really there is very little similarity. Radiohead were more borderline commercial at some points than people remember though. In reality, they weren't that alike at all. While Oasis delved further into dad rock dirge with Be Here Now, Radiohead went on to create OK Computer, one of the greatest albums of all time. I think them doing OK Computer and Blur doing their "Blur" album and later "13" really set them apart from the rest of the British bands that come out of that period and musically left all the others behind, including Oasis. Not all their discography, but sometimes they sounded very similar. Just like not all Oasis song sound like Robbie Williams but some of them are. Especially to someone who is not that much into that, let's call it, alternative rock music. Fake Plastic Trees and, let's say Half The World Away are basically the same genre and for everyone outside that scene it's basically the same thing. When I played Lucky Man by Verve to some of my friend, they asked me, wtf is that shit, is that Robbie Williams, turn it off! :-)
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Post by riverman on Aug 10, 2017 13:00:31 GMT -5
Anxious to see the full FWIW live video
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Post by globe on Aug 10, 2017 13:01:55 GMT -5
People saying it sounds like Robbie - aye that's because Robbie has spent the last 20 years copying Oasis and wanting to be Liam.
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Post by Thomas on Aug 10, 2017 13:03:56 GMT -5
Anxious to see the full FWIW live video It's pretty good, actually. Dropped a full tone, but he hits and holds notes quite surprisingly.
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Post by riverman on Aug 10, 2017 13:07:13 GMT -5
Another version, on 1080p
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Post by Aman on Aug 10, 2017 13:16:08 GMT -5
The chorus kinda grates after a while really. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2017 13:16:12 GMT -5
Any one who mentions hype in there response should really realise they are responsible for how much hype they take to heart. D O N T B E L I E V E T H E H Y P E
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Post by andymorris on Aug 10, 2017 14:16:32 GMT -5
Thank you for pointing out that it sounds like Robbie Williams, now I hate the song :-) But seriously, there is nothing that bad about it. Robbie's Williams is much more to Oasis/Liam's/Noel's music than they will ever admit. Just like Oasis in the 90s was making very similar music like 90s Radiohead. More similar than both bands will ever admit. Robbie Williams, from 97 to 2002, has made some great records. They are pop records finely crafted and well recorded, the songs are seriously very good. I'm not ashamed to say i've enjoyed those records. There used to be some good pop records back in the day. BUT, is that what we want from Liam ? A good product or a true rock n roll record ? It all depends on what we expect from Liam. Personally i was expecting something else, something not from the brain of others, if that makes sense. For once, Liam could have put his balls on the table. Not rely on other people's tunes. I sure will enjoy this record, but i will not like to the bones, as i liked Oasis. There is no strong personality to the songs we heard so far. They are good tunes, no arguments. They tick all the box from the book of songwriting but is there a Liam style in them ? Surely not... They could be songs from someone else. It will be a good background music after the novelty bonus every record gets. Is that fine ? I don't know...
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Post by neila83 on Aug 10, 2017 14:32:05 GMT -5
I think I'd feel better about it if Liam wasn't going around slagging off everyone else for being beige and not rock n roll enough etc, accusing Noel of being corporate, while he's singing songs written by Adele's writers.
There's always been a huge disconnect between Liam's words about being the last true rock n roll star and representing punk or whatever, and the stuff he actually records. Which is what leads to some disappointment I think.
As for the song, I guess it's nice? Which isn't the word I'd want to use about a Liam song. Like a song designed by committee, which is horrible. It's obvious someone in marketing decided they need a nice ballad and an apology, since their strategy seems to be built around the 'new' Liam. Yeh, really keeping it real there.
I'm not sure there's anything left of the original vocal either. Effects and autotuning all over it, some strange points where it's been edited together pretty badly as already noted. I don't know why he can't record at a lower volume, it would surely help with a song like this, but that video of him recording it shows he screaming into the mic. Weird.
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