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Post by Thomas on Aug 10, 2017 8:49:10 GMT -5
His marketing people should hang their heads in shame, terrible. IIRC in China you can't play songs with "chino" references, being a foreigner.
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Post by eskat on Aug 10, 2017 8:51:09 GMT -5
His marketing people should hang their heads in shame, terrible. On the contrary, it would have caused a scandal (and maybe even a ban).
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Aug 10, 2017 8:52:41 GMT -5
5/10
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Post by jordan71421 on Aug 10, 2017 8:56:16 GMT -5
Chorus is my favorite part of the song
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Post by sgtpeppr on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:38 GMT -5
not bad. loses something when i know theyre someone elses lyrics tho. still a nice track but. i should stick solely to liam's studio efforts. im always left disappointed by his live performances...
is slide away considered a ballad?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:40 GMT -5
Good song. Better than most anything Beady Eye did. Don't like as much as WoG.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2017 9:04:31 GMT -5
Q for older fans - when would you say Liam became known for ballads like this? Is this what he is to you? I grew up in Heathen Chemistry times, where songbird and SCYHO and let there be love was his thing. I loved the whole "hard man bares his soul" angle. But I suppose wonderwall and champagne supernova are also Ballady technically....do some people here think of Liam as a rocker and not care for his ballads? I'm an older fan, not from age, but I started listening to Oasis when WTSMG came out when I was 8. And it was Liam's voice that drew me in especially on the ballady songs. Even on rockers, like Morning Glory, the vocals draw you in. I'd be surprised if the people around from the start prefer the rockers. I am also a bit confused by many here who seem to be pro rocker, the was never really an Oasis staple. Or if it was, Liam's vocals would still be "ballady". It wasn't until the 00s when his voice dropped off that he became a shouter and a snarler when the "rockers" really started to struggle, as did the quality of the song overall. So if Oasis isn't know for their rockers, and they don't actually have that many true ballads (I don't count songs like Supernova or Rockin Chair). Then what the fuck is Oasis??? I thought rock band.
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 10, 2017 9:26:09 GMT -5
Lovely middle 8 arrow/sorrow I thought it was going to come back in for an instrumental coda with a big drum fill. same here. chorus is quite catchy/good but I feel it comes backs too soon after the middle 8, which should have led up to some instrumental greatness. quite average to me, but a great Liam vocal. I believe Bold will be the third before the album comes out?
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Post by stinenat on Aug 10, 2017 9:26:40 GMT -5
Pretty good. They're really treating Liam like a solo vocal artist in the composition of these songs and this and Chinatown are the best examples of this. They're showing off his range and agility a la Kurstin's work for Adele. Lyrics are great besides that "crucified..." line, which is some teenage emo shit. Definitely sounds more Beady Eye than Oasis, and it reminds me a bit of The Beat Goes On. I wish it had Noel's melodic touch. 7/10
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Post by walrus91 on Aug 10, 2017 9:44:08 GMT -5
Pretty good. They're really treating Liam like a solo vocal artist in the composition of these songs and this and Chinatown are the best examples of this. They're showing off his range and agility a la Kurstin's work for Adele. Lyrics are great besides that "crucified..." line, which is some teenage emo shit. Definitely sounds more Beady Eye than Oasis, and it reminds me a bit of The Beat Goes On. I wish it had Noel's melodic touch. 7/10 I like the crucified line.. I liked it on let's all make believe also .. best Liam song so far .. better than all beady eye songs but maybe the roller .. wish Liam had this voice on that song .. i will put it against Noel's solo stuff.. Not that it's better bit on the same par as his singles I think.
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Post by oasis6 on Aug 10, 2017 9:44:41 GMT -5
I'm an older fan, not from age, but I started listening to Oasis when WTSMG came out when I was 8. And it was Liam's voice that drew me in especially on the ballady songs. Even on rockers, like Morning Glory, the vocals draw you in. I'd be surprised if the people around from the start prefer the rockers. I am also a bit confused by many here who seem to be pro rocker, the was never really an Oasis staple. Or if it was, Liam's vocals would still be "ballady". It wasn't until the 00s when his voice dropped off that he became a shouter and a snarler when the "rockers" really started to struggle, as did the quality of the song overall. So if Oasis isn't know for their rockers, and they don't actually have that many true ballads (I don't count songs like Supernova or Rockin Chair). Then what the fuck is Oasis??? I thought rock band. Very fair. I think what I'm trying to get at is, a Liam "rocker" these days without Noel's help really suffers, while Liam ballads without him do what they are supposed to do. They may not be 90s epic, but to me they are more effective especially due to what he is capable of as a singer, whereas his current rockers struggle to stand out and often are clunky or poor.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2017 9:45:45 GMT -5
So if Oasis isn't know for their rockers, and they don't actually have that many true ballads (I don't count songs like Supernova or Rockin Chair). Then what the fuck is Oasis??? I thought rock band. Very fair. I think what I'm trying to get at is, a Liam "rocker" these days without Noel's help really suffers, while Liam ballads without him do what they are supposed to do. They may not be 90s epic, but to me they are more effective especially due to what he is capable of as a singer, whereas his current rockers struggle to stand out and often are clunky or poor. I think Wall of Glass is pretty damn good.
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Post by oasis6 on Aug 10, 2017 9:55:03 GMT -5
Very fair. I think what I'm trying to get at is, a Liam "rocker" these days without Noel's help really suffers, while Liam ballads without him do what they are supposed to do. They may not be 90s epic, but to me they are more effective especially due to what he is capable of as a singer, whereas his current rockers struggle to stand out and often are clunky or poor. I think Wall of Glass is pretty damn good. Agreed. It is very good. But he got help. It wasn't Noel, but he still got help & it is a very refreshing sound for Liam. I was skeptical of the help at first, worried it would make him too much like a pop artist. But I think it is working very well.
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Post by modxxii on Aug 10, 2017 10:01:01 GMT -5
What a tune! Fantastic song and Liam vocals are top. To me best tune so far. l like all the songs except Chinatown. I'm sorry but I can't stand it.
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Post by Mr. Sifter on Aug 10, 2017 10:13:04 GMT -5
Lyric video:
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Post by jmp111181 on Aug 10, 2017 10:20:36 GMT -5
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Post by frjdoasis on Aug 10, 2017 10:22:11 GMT -5
The bit of For What It's Worth which comes immediately before 'Sometimes we lose our way' reminds me of the bit immediately before 'Why don't we break up?' in this great song.
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Post by Aman on Aug 10, 2017 10:29:12 GMT -5
It's not WOG but it's still cool.
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Post by Aman on Aug 10, 2017 10:30:43 GMT -5
Verses make the song. :cool:
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Post by jxing on Aug 10, 2017 10:34:30 GMT -5
I have no musical talent or knowledge so excuse my lackluster explanations
It's growing on me. The vulnerability in the lyrics and in his voice are astounding. I definitely believe that he needed this type of song to counter all the negative press and bad decisions that he's made in the past years.
I think the "hype" really messed with my expectations; although I'm not sure what my expectations were.. I hate "hype" because I'm usually always disappointed. I'm not exactly disappointed in the song but I guess I was thinking that it would be louder (for lack of a better word)
I do like it but I'm definitely going to have to give it a many more listens.. I hope he's able to give it the performance that it needs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2017 10:48:16 GMT -5
I think Wall of Glass is pretty damn good. Agreed. It is very good. But he got help. It wasn't Noel, but he still got help & it is a very refreshing sound for Liam. I was skeptical of the help at first, worried it would make him too much like a pop artist. But I think it is working very well. I've got no problem with help for Liam. He's a singer. Not a songwriter. Don't care who wrote it either. I prefer WOG over a ton of Beady Eye.
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Post by OasisDG on Aug 10, 2017 10:58:21 GMT -5
I've listened to it a tonne today and I genuinely feel that had it been on any of the post 2000 Oasis albums we would be talking about a highlight. The vocals sound more new Liam rather than old Liam especially the line at the end of each chorus but they are still silky smooth and powerful
I did say this morning that he is going to struggle with this live but then I thought he would with WOG too and apart from a dodgy gig here and there I think the band have let him down more than him missing notes.
All in all I am absolutely buzzing and considering a majority of people really like Greedy Soul, Bold etc from the live versions I really think we are onto a winner here.
I can see why people don't want to form quick opinions but if you compare the first three tracks we heard from each of the BE albums these songs completely blow them out of the water which is 10x what we all expected earlier this year. Well done LG you've stuck two fingers up in the best way possible.
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Post by GlastoEls on Aug 10, 2017 11:00:00 GMT -5
Three released songs thus far (plus Greedy Soul on that Glasto video) I prefer honestly to anything released by Beady Eye.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2017 11:07:46 GMT -5
I've listened to it a tonne today and I genuinely feel that had it been on any of the post 2000 Oasis albums we would be talking about a highlight. The vocals sound more new Liam rather than old Liam especially the line at the end of each chorus but they are still silky smooth and powerful I did say this morning that he is going to struggle with this live but then I thought he would with WOG too and apart from a dodgy gig here and there I think the band have let him down more than him missing notes. All in all I am absolutely buzzing and considering a majority of people really like Greedy Soul, Bold etc from the live versions I really think we are onto a winner here. I can see why people don't want to form quick opinions but if you compare the first three tracks we heard from each of the BE albums these songs completely blow them out of the water which is 10x what we all expected earlier this year. Well done LG you've stuck two fingers up in the best way possible. Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew.
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 10, 2017 11:08:04 GMT -5
I am shocked on YouTube and Twitter the positive reaction this song is getting. People always loved to hate on Liam but it seems like he has raised up from nothing for people to love him the way I thought people always should have. He can be an ass but people were kinda unfair at times. It's just amazing to see so much positive come from this. It's an amazing song the more you listen the more you like it. May not be an exciting rock song but it's an amazing from the heart song. I'm really happy for this turn around he has had. Maybe at some point the boys can also make up not so much for a Oasis deal but just for family bc it's sad to have two people who did so much together not want anything to do with the other. (I think liam does but not Noel)
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