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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 31, 2017 22:43:58 GMT -5
Thanks simmo! This is a really interesting interview. The bits about the new album is super exciting, especially about there being more bass, there being less "songy songs," and there being more happening in the music. The moment when Russ was describing him and Mike Rowe having to tell that Noel that he's playing Angel Child wrong. So far I'm digging what I'm hearing for album #3. Expand the sound, be different, add more color and avoid classic Noel style trap songs like If I Had A Gun or The Dying of The Light. I'm no longer interested in material like that from Noel. Was never a huge fan of either song to be honest. Too "songy".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 23:17:45 GMT -5
For the record, I heart songy Noel
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 1, 2017 1:06:01 GMT -5
Thanks simmo! This is a really interesting interview. The bits about the new album is super exciting, especially about there being more bass, there being less "songy songs," and there being more happening in the music. The moment when Russ was describing him and Mike Rowe having to tell that Noel that he's playing Angel Child wrong. More bass? BRING IT ON
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 1, 2017 3:26:14 GMT -5
Glad to hear it's less "songy".
It's time he moved on from writing songs like You Know We Can't Go Back.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Aug 1, 2017 5:01:55 GMT -5
Great job with the interview. Russ comes across as a great guy and the bits about the new album sound very promising. Plus it's confirmed for the millionth time that the album is coming out in November.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 1, 2017 5:06:24 GMT -5
Great job with the interview. Russ comes across as a great guy and the bits about the new album sound very promising. Plus it's confirmed for the millionth time that the album is coming out in November. My excitement is growing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 6:28:27 GMT -5
Glad to hear it's less "songy". It's time he moved on from writing songs like You Know We Can't Go Back. Nope. It's time he made more songs like You Know We Can't Go Back. (The Right Stuffers are already getting cocky for this album).
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Post by simmo on Aug 1, 2017 7:01:34 GMT -5
The way he spoke about Live Forever gave me chills. His eyes were almost watering talking about it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 1, 2017 7:24:16 GMT -5
Glad to hear it's less "songy". It's time he moved on from writing songs like You Know We Can't Go Back. Nope. It's time he made more songs like You Know We Can't Go Back. (The Right Stuffers are already getting cocky for this album). The Right Stuff is brilliant. More like that would be great please Noel.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 1, 2017 7:29:28 GMT -5
More songs like While The Song Remains The Same plz
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 7:57:55 GMT -5
Wasn't it the same before NGHFB and CY? Songs would be different? I think there will be at least two YKWCGB kind of songs on there. Noel would never release a song like WTSRTS as a lead single.
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Post by Gerhard on Aug 1, 2017 9:38:12 GMT -5
a really great episode this one. nice to hear that Jason faulker is playing on th e new album
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Post by spaneli on Aug 1, 2017 10:23:59 GMT -5
Wasn't it the same before NGHFB and CY? Songs would be different? I think there will be at least two YKWCGB kind of songs on there. Noel would never release a song like WTSRTS as a lead single. In terms of experimentation, CY was a step up from HFB. There might two really experimental songs on HFB: TDOYAM and WAL. On CY you could make the case for 5 songs: Riverman, The Right Stuff, WTSRMTS, BOTMI, and ITHOTM. That's about half the album. If the next album takes another jump to say, 8/10 songs, then that'll be fine. It would already be far more experimental than HFB. So, I don't think there still being a couple "songy songs" would mean that it isn't different.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Aug 1, 2017 12:21:10 GMT -5
The less "songy" bit is worrying for me. That is the type of comments artists typically do when they know they do not have great songs. For me, CY was almost perfect and I would like an album in the same vein, maybe modernizing the production a little bit. I don't need Noel to experiment with other styles: in the Spotify world, I can listen to any style of music at any moment. If I want dance-rock, I simply listen to LCD Soundsystem (or a myriad other groups). If I want stoner rock, I can listen to QOTSA, etc. From Noel, I want the great, anthemic songs he excels at. 10-12 great oasis-like songs every 3 years don't seem too many for me
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 1, 2017 13:30:50 GMT -5
Wasn't it the same before NGHFB and CY? Songs would be different? I think there will be at least two YKWCGB kind of songs on there. Noel would never release a song like WTSRTS as a lead single. In terms of experimentation, CY was a step up from HFB. There might two really experimental songs on HFB: TDOYAM and WAL. On CY you could make the case for 5 songs: Riverman, The Right Stuff, WTSRMTS, BOTMI, and ITHOTM. That's about half the album. If the next album takes another jump to say, 8/10 songs, then that'll be fine. It would already be far more experimental than HFB. So, I don't think there still being a couple "songy songs" would mean that it isn't different. The Death Of You And Me experimental? The 60s are laughing.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 1, 2017 13:32:00 GMT -5
In terms of experimentation, CY was a step up from HFB. There might two really experimental songs on HFB: TDOYAM and WAL. On CY you could make the case for 5 songs: Riverman, The Right Stuff, WTSRMTS, BOTMI, and ITHOTM. That's about half the album. If the next album takes another jump to say, 8/10 songs, then that'll be fine. It would already be far more experimental than HFB. So, I don't think there still being a couple "songy songs" would mean that it isn't different. The Death Of You And Me experimental? The 60s are laughing. For Noel it's somewhat experimental.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 1, 2017 13:35:01 GMT -5
The Death Of You And Me experimental? The 60s are laughing. For Noel it's somewhat experimental. Hmm..always thought it was a bit in the same vein as something like the Importance Of Being Idle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 13:44:52 GMT -5
That was a good listen. The most interesting bits for me were the original guitarist essentially failing the audition and, more importantly, Russ felt that he couldn't sing properly because Noel's guitar was so loud so he had to switch to IEMs. Where have we heard that before?
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Post by simmo on Aug 1, 2017 16:59:28 GMT -5
That was a good listen. The most interesting bits for me were the original guitarist essentially failing the audition and, more importantly, Russ felt that he couldn't sing properly because Noel's guitar was so loud so he had to switch to IEMs. Where have we heard that before? Agree. Genuinely had to stop myself saying 'someone else has said that before' regarding loud guitars. Love that Russ approached it by learning it like he knew She Loves You, and learned the bvs just in case. Great life pro tip there
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 1:51:58 GMT -5
I wonder what happened to all the songs Noel had in the vault before he decided on the "write in the studio" thing. I'm still waiting on a proper release of:
- Just Let It Come Down Over Me - Don't Stop (Being Happy) - God Help Us All - Come On Outside (..give that one to Liam!)
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Post by Doc Lobster on Aug 2, 2017 2:39:23 GMT -5
The Right Stuff is brilliant. More like that would be great please Noel. The Right Stuff represents everything I fear about this album....rambling and "musical" with lots of noises for the pretentious lot, but not a single chorus that brings me to tears. For the Right Stuffers, I seriously want to know what you've been listening for the past 20 years as Noel/Oasis fan?? I mean seriously, you like space jazz at the same time as Don't Look Back in Anger?! Boggles my mind...
Wait a minute... you're telling me you eat stuff other than pizza?? You must be nuts!
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 2, 2017 2:59:06 GMT -5
The Right Stuff is brilliant. More like that would be great please Noel. The Right Stuff represents everything I fear about this album....rambling and "musical" with lots of noises for the pretentious lot, but not a single chorus that brings me to tears. For the Right Stuffers, I seriously want to know what you've been listening for the past 20 years as Noel/Oasis fan?? I mean seriously, you like space jazz at the same time as Don't Look Back in Anger?! Boggles my mind...Jazz is legitimately one of my favorite genres of music. Sure, a lot of it is a million miles away from DLBIA, but I feel like everyone could get jazz if they gave it a chance. Try listening to this tune by Acoustic Ladyland - not a Hendrix tribute group but what you get when you electrocute a jazz quartet. This song is actually kinda catchy too, far from the stuff you would call pretentious.
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 2, 2017 4:24:51 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2017 16:56:22 GMT -5
The less "songy" bit is worrying for me. That is the type of comments artists typically do when they know they do not have great songs. For me, CY was almost perfect and I would like an album in the same vein, maybe modernizing the production a little bit. I don't need Noel to experiment with other styles: in the Spotify world, I can listen to any style of music at any moment. If I want dance-rock, I simply listen to LCD Soundsystem (or a myriad other groups). If I want stoner rock, I can listen to QOTSA, etc. From Noel, I want the great, anthemic songs he excels at. 10-12 great oasis-like songs every 3 years don't seem too many for me The problem here is that many think that he doesn't excel at this anymore. And I sympathise with that view - it's difficult to listen to songs like Lock All The Doors and You Know We Can't Go Back without thinking these are poor pastiches of classic Oasis songs. It lacks that youthful vigour, aggression and spontaneity of old (the flat guitars and lack of Liam vocals certainly doesn't help). As a 50 year old bloke, you just can't replicate that. Something that sounds sonically expansive yet intimate and reflective at the same time is what I want from Noel. Perhaps the best example to use would be Falling Down. Now granted, I don't think the studio version does that song full justice (too retro when it should be more modern) and many brilliant individual elements within the numerous remixes it was given adds further weight to the idea that more could have been fulfilled with that track. Yet the bare bones of that song is very melancholy and downbeat, despite it having a fantastic rhythm to it. I don't want to listen to middle aged man rocking out having a great time. That fools nobody and just looks pathetic in my opinion. And I don't want to categorise Noel into anthemic tunes, because that doesn't do his songs justice in my opinion. The anthemic qualities were a bonus rather than the central factor in his songs; instead it was the emotional weight and depth behind those melodies. That is the key to Noel's songwriting and if he were to provide that with something more contemplative then he'd have a great album on his hands. I don't get that sense with Noel's modern day 'anthemic' songs - if they had the power and scale of earlier ones, then why have none of them been hits? It all feels rather contrived and because of that, I'm bored by them. I'm open to any form of diversity within his music now because it might tap into a naive and innocent wonder of new sounds that can often inspire and conjure up magical moments.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 17:05:45 GMT -5
The less "songy" bit is worrying for me. That is the type of comments artists typically do when they know they do not have great songs. For me, CY was almost perfect and I would like an album in the same vein, maybe modernizing the production a little bit. I don't need Noel to experiment with other styles: in the Spotify world, I can listen to any style of music at any moment. If I want dance-rock, I simply listen to LCD Soundsystem (or a myriad other groups). If I want stoner rock, I can listen to QOTSA, etc. From Noel, I want the great, anthemic songs he excels at. 10-12 great oasis-like songs every 3 years don't seem too many for me The problem here is that many think that he doesn't excel at this anymore. And I sympathise with that view - it's difficult to listen to songs like Lock All The Doors and You Know We Can't Go Back without thinking these are poor pastiches of classic Oasis songs. It lacks that youthful vigour, aggression and spontaneity of old (the flat guitars and lack of Liam vocals certainly doesn't help). As a 50 year old bloke, you just can't replicate that. Something that sounds sonically expansive yet intimate and reflective at the same time is what I want from Noel. Perhaps the best example to use would be Falling Down. Now granted, I don't think the studio version does that song full justice (too retro when it should be more modern) and many brilliant individual elements within the numerous remixes it was given adds further weight to the idea that more could have been fulfilled with that track. Yet the bare bones of that song is very melancholy and downbeat, despite it having a fantastic rhythm to it. I don't want to listen to middle aged man rocking out having a great time. That fools nobody and just looks pathetic in my opinion. And I don't want to categorise Noel into anthemic tunes, because that doesn't do his songs justice in my opinion. The anthemic qualities were a bonus rather than the central factor in his songs; instead it was the emotional weight and depth behind those melodies. That is the key to Noel's songwriting and if he were to provide that with something more contemplative then he'd have a great album on his hands. I don't get that sense with Noel's modern day 'anthemic' songs - if they had the power and scale of earlier ones, then why have none of them been hits? It all feels rather contrived and because of that, I'm bored by them. I'm open to any form of diversity within his music now because it might tap into a naive and innocent wonder of new sounds that can often inspire and conjure up magical moments. You people just can't wait for Noel to make his King of Limbs.... 20 years ago, I signed up for songs that make an emotional connection with me the way no other ones could. I want to keep that.
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