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Post by Manualex on May 26, 2017 19:15:07 GMT -5
Heard the previews on Spotify and holy macaroni I can pick up stuff in the break on Within you Without You so much clearly. If only my country wasnt in shambles and I could buy this álbum I would do it in a heartbeat only based on those 30 seconds.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 26, 2017 21:08:40 GMT -5
Heard the previews on Spotify and holy macaroni I can pick up stuff in the break on Within you Without You so much clearly. If only my country wasnt in shambles and I could buy this álbum I would do it in a heartbeat only based on those 30 seconds. what country be that?
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Post by Manualex on May 26, 2017 21:58:13 GMT -5
Heard the previews on Spotify and holy macaroni I can pick up stuff in the break on Within you Without You so much clearly. If only my country wasnt in shambles and I could buy this álbum I would do it in a heartbeat only based on those 30 seconds. what country be that? Venezuela, the last album I could afford was Daft Punk's RAM a month or so after it came out. Now musix it's just a luxury that cant be bought. Nor that it would be available to buy in my local store anyways. I could make an spotify account and listen with a vpn but it wouldnt be the experience that I want, which is to listen without any interruption.
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Post by matt on May 27, 2017 8:20:22 GMT -5
Definitely glad to have this in my collection. Probably only really need the 2 CD version. Not a ton to write home about with CD 3 and 4. Yeah, the minute I saw these extra discs I thought if they weren't on Anthology, then there was probably a good reason for that. Not that it's shite, it's just not that essential.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 27, 2017 9:29:06 GMT -5
Definitely glad to have this in my collection. Probably only really need the 2 CD version. Not a ton to write home about with CD 3 and 4. Yeah, the minute I saw these extra discs I thought if they weren't on Anthology, then there was probably a good reason for that. Not that it's shite, it's just not that essential. Everything was so piece mealed during those sessions many of the outtakes are just over dubs and instrumentals. Some really cool stuff is there. Lennon's vocal takes on Strawberry and Lucy are so raw and natural compared to their augmented states on Pepper.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on May 27, 2017 9:50:51 GMT -5
This is what should've been released in 2009 (not slating 09, those are great remasters). They couldn't really do anything like this with the early mono albums, but this is the attention that should've been given everything from Rubber Soul on. Its not quite a revelation but this is the best version of Pepper's I've ever heard and I've heard everything from the first press vinyl to the Doc Ebbetts remasters to 2009 mono/stereo, etc. This is the best. Fuck, Paul's vocal on Fixing A Hole may be my favorite Beatle lead vocal and now the harmonies are pushed to the front and I'm dying.
And not to compare the albums in terms of quality, but this is the type of treatment BHN needed and would've benefited the most from. Remixed from top to bottom.
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Post by Hazed on May 27, 2017 10:56:38 GMT -5
the lucy in the sky with diamonds mix sounds amazing
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Post by Bellboy on May 27, 2017 12:07:52 GMT -5
Mania. Whole thing is brilliant. Lovely Rita on disc 2 is particularly nice!
The 2 disc version is all you need...well that and love 😉
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Post by matt on May 27, 2017 14:23:23 GMT -5
This is what should've been released in 2009 (not slating 09, those are great remasters). They couldn't really do anything like this with the early mono albums, but this is the attention that should've been given everything from Rubber Soul on. Its not quite a revelation but this is the best version of Pepper's I've ever heard and I've heard everything from the first press vinyl to the Doc Ebbetts remasters to 2009 mono/stereo, etc. This is the best. Fuck, Paul's vocal on Fixing A Hole may be my favorite Beatle lead vocal and now the harmonies are pushed to the front and I'm dying. And not to compare the albums in terms of quality, but this is the type of treatment BHN needed and would've benefited the most from. Remixed from top to bottom. The stereo remasters from 2009 were utterly pointless - they were always poor, why they bothered is beyond me.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 27, 2017 15:52:39 GMT -5
It sounds fucking amazing. So clear.
I'm just clicking on everything like an idiot, can't figure out what I want to hear first.
Fuck. Strawberry Fields Forever sounds fantastic. Reminds me why this is my favourite Beatles song.
Did they change the pitch on She's Leaving Home? It sounds slightly higher.
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Post by Manualex on May 27, 2017 16:01:52 GMT -5
It sounds fucking amazing. So clear. I'm just clicking on everything like an idiot, can't figure out what I want to hear first. Fuck. Strawberry Fields Forever sounds fantastic. Reminds me why this is my favourite Beatles song. Did they change the pitch on She's Leaving Home? It sounds slightly higher. Probably because you were familiar with the song in E, now its in F. The original mono versión(or is it the Stereo?) of the song was in F so they rised the pitch to match that one. I read that on reddit.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on May 27, 2017 16:16:06 GMT -5
The stereo remasters from 2009 were utterly pointless - they were always poor, why they bothered is beyond me. Madness. The 2009 remasters were necessary with the advent of digital becoming the predominant format and they are strong for what they are. That's the point. Remastering is not usually a relevatory process and Id argue that the 09 remasters are the best in class in that category. It matters with this band's output particularly because of the original technology used. Sgt. Pepper itself was recorded on 4 track, the earlier stuff 2 track. 09's destroy any prior version and are definitive for every album other than this. This one is exceptional because its remixed properly and we have the benefits of a lot more technology. The issue I have with 09 is only the constant mono/stereo battle i.e. nothing should've been released in stereo that wasn't originally released in stereo etc unless it was properly remixed. The first few albums shouldn't even have been in the black box.
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Post by matt on May 27, 2017 16:21:50 GMT -5
The stereo remasters from 2009 were utterly pointless - they were always poor, why they bothered is beyond me. Madness. The 2009 remasters were necessary with the advent of digital becoming the predominant format and they are strong for what they are. That's the point. Remastering is not usually a relevatory process and Id argue that the 09 remasters are the best in class in that category. It matters with this band's output particularly because of the original technology used. Sgt. Pepper itself was recorded on 4 track, the earlier stuff 2 track. 09's destroy any prior version and are definitive for every album other than this. This one is exceptional because its remixed properly and we have the benefits of a lot more technology. The issue I have with 09 is only the constant mono/stereo battle i.e. nothing should've been released in stereo that wasn't originally released in stereo etc unless it was properly remixed. The first few albums shouldn't even have been in the black box. I get your point, it's just that for a predominant headphone user like myself, the way the vocals were channelled down one ear and the instruments on the other was jarring and totally sapped the energy from the songs. I was hoping it was going to be surround sound. Okay, I'm older now to realise that would have been a remix rather than remaster but even George Martin said the stereos were merely an afterthought.
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Post by matt on May 27, 2017 16:24:37 GMT -5
It sounds fucking amazing. So clear. I'm just clicking on everything like an idiot, can't figure out what I want to hear first. Fuck. Strawberry Fields Forever sounds fantastic. Reminds me why this is my favourite Beatles song. Did they change the pitch on She's Leaving Home? It sounds slightly higher. That's the original mono pitch for She's Leaving Home. Was deliberately taken higher to 'lift' the melody - have no idea why the stereo versions were at the original pitch.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on May 27, 2017 18:18:41 GMT -5
Madness. The 2009 remasters were necessary with the advent of digital becoming the predominant format and they are strong for what they are. That's the point. Remastering is not usually a relevatory process and Id argue that the 09 remasters are the best in class in that category. It matters with this band's output particularly because of the original technology used. Sgt. Pepper itself was recorded on 4 track, the earlier stuff 2 track. 09's destroy any prior version and are definitive for every album other than this. This one is exceptional because its remixed properly and we have the benefits of a lot more technology. The issue I have with 09 is only the constant mono/stereo battle i.e. nothing should've been released in stereo that wasn't originally released in stereo etc unless it was properly remixed. The first few albums shouldn't even have been in the black box. I get your point, it's just that for a predominant headphone user like myself, the way the vocals were channelled down one ear and the instruments on the other was jarring and totally sapped the energy from the songs. I was hoping it was going to be surround sound. Okay, I'm older now to realise that would have been a remix rather than remaster but even George Martin said the stereos were merely an afterthought. That goes to to my second paragraph. That issue is because of the way the original albums were recorded. Abbey Road was the first of their albums recorded in true stereo with only Let It Be left. The Black Box remasters are fine in respect to the harsh panning once you hit BFS, which is when they started remastering off of the 1987 CD masters. Im also predominantly a headphone user, the hard vocal panning doesn't exist from BFS onwards (and Im listening to it as I reply to this). Its excruciating on the first two though. I dont even know if its possible to put the early albums in "surround sound", at least not until Help when they learned about overdubbing and started experimenting, isolating things off of 2 track masters is unknown territory. In my iTunes, I have the first 2 records from the white box and the rest are all the 09 stereo black box remasters. Sickeningly, Past Masters is a mix of both, i.e. I have the stereo version of Ballad of John and Yoko, but the mono mix of Bad Boy. If its that bothersome, get the Mono remasters which are fantastic in their own right. That was the original artist intent in the first place up until Abbey Road. Stereo didn't matter until about 1968 because hifis were so expensive. There are some differences when you side by side some of the later records especially if you're used to the 1987 CD transfers which are all fake stereo.
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 27, 2017 18:29:17 GMT -5
Bought this today and listened to it through car speakers, can't really tell much difference, need to listen with earphones.....my hearings not the best, though, too much loud music in my youth...
In 50 years time, for the 100th anniversary, you won't get music, you'll time travel back to 1967 and watch the band record the album or something....of course, most of us will dead by then.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:54:22 GMT -5
i listened to my original pressing of sgt. peppers yesterday , on vinyl. played at extreme high volume, sounded awesome. now get off my lawn!
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 28, 2017 16:04:25 GMT -5
Imagined they ended "A Day In The Life" with that hum outro. That wouldn't have been as cool or iconic. Glad it worked well with the crashing pianos!
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Post by matt on May 28, 2017 16:11:09 GMT -5
Imagined they ended "A Day In The Life" with that hum outro. That wouldn't have been as cool or iconic. Glad it worked well with the crashing pianos! Aside from admitting to himself that it was a grave error to not put Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on the album, George Martin's judgement was always perfect. What even seem like small details like the hum or the piano chord turned out to be significant.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 28, 2017 16:18:26 GMT -5
Imagined they ended "A Day In The Life" with that hum outro. That wouldn't have been as cool or iconic. Glad it worked well with the crashing pianos! Aside from admitting to himself that it was a grave error to not put Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on the album, George Martin's judgement was always perfect. What even seem like small details like the hum or the piano chord turned out to be significant. I don't really blame or say that was a mistake. That is how the industry was in the 60s. The singles, especially in the UK, were not on the actual albums. I mean the same could be said for Hey Jude and Revolution. Big time singles. Not on The White Album (I don't count Revolution 1 as the same). Pepper is great as is. Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane is the greatest single of all time.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 28, 2017 16:27:13 GMT -5
Aside from admitting to himself that it was a grave error to not put Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on the album, George Martin's judgement was always perfect. What even seem like small details like the hum or the piano chord turned out to be significant. I don't really blame or say that was a mistake. That is how the industry was in the 60s. The singles, especially in the UK, were not on the actual albums. I mean the same could be said for Hey Jude and Revolution. Big time singles. Not on The White Album (I don't count Revolution 1 as the same). Pepper is great as is. Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane is the greatest single of all time. I Feel Fine, Daytripper, Paperback Writer, Rain...could go on for a bit there about singles which weren't on the albums.
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