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Post by Doc Lobster on Apr 4, 2017 2:15:06 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 4, 2017 10:30:59 GMT -5
Hopefully some details emerge soon. |
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Post by matt on Apr 4, 2017 10:41:46 GMT -5
Surely this has to be in surround sound! And 6 CDs in the super deluxe - I wonder what gems we will get with this...I know what to save up for now.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 4, 2017 12:28:13 GMT -5
*Gasp* Beatles Bible is an excellent forum btw. Have been on there for 7 years or so. Haven't been on there for months though. What always astounds me is how there's still news every day even though this band broke up about 47 years ago. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Apr 4, 2017 14:01:06 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 4, 2017 14:14:34 GMT -5
Take my money Beatles. Take all of it.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 4, 2017 15:44:24 GMT -5
I WANT YOU. I WANT YOU SO BAD. I WANT YOU, I WANT YOU SO BAD IT'S DRIVING ME MAD, IT'S DRIVING ME MAD. |
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Post by matt on Apr 4, 2017 15:58:04 GMT -5
Greatest album of all time just got greater!
The power of those harmonies, backing and double tracked vocals is unbelievable - amazing just how much more oomph there are to songs like Lucy In The Sky and Lovely Rita. Cannot wait - this is the version of the album I've been wanting for years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 17:32:53 GMT -5
If any album deserves the modern surround sound treatment, its this one. As an iPod user and somebody who predominately listens to music through headphones, I was disappointed that the 2009 stereo remasters were not surround sound - it was awkward listening to albums where vocals are channelled through one earphone and instruments on the other. I'm not sure who was in charge of the 2009 remasters but they were massively behind the times by neglecting headphone users. yes, the 'fake stereo' bullshit. all the vocals on one side, and the instruments on the other. but remember that 2009 stereo box was merely 'remastered' --- not remixed. there's a difference there. i received the stereo box as a christmas gift back when it came out (and still think it's terrific) and i predicted back then that they would eventually remix these albums for a true, full stereo sound. i truly believe this was by design, to have everyone buy the stereo box first, then later on remix them into true stereo. i am a big beatles fan but sorry it just strikes me as a blatant cash grab and i will NOT be buying this. the stereo box is good enough for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 17:39:35 GMT -5
....and remember a true stereo master of sgt. peppers doesn't exist. the album was originally mixed and mastered in mono. hence the 'fake stereo' effect on the original 'stereo' pressing and the remasters.
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Post by matt on Apr 4, 2017 20:08:09 GMT -5
If any album deserves the modern surround sound treatment, its this one. As an iPod user and somebody who predominately listens to music through headphones, I was disappointed that the 2009 stereo remasters were not surround sound - it was awkward listening to albums where vocals are channelled through one earphone and instruments on the other. I'm not sure who was in charge of the 2009 remasters but they were massively behind the times by neglecting headphone users. yes, the 'fake stereo' bullshit. all the vocals on one side, and the instruments on the other. but remember that 2009 stereo box was merely 'remastered' --- not remixed. there's a difference there. i received the stereo box as a christmas gift back when it came out (and still think it's terrific) and i predicted back then that they would eventually remix these albums for a true, full stereo sound. i truly believe this was by design, to have everyone buy the stereo box first, then later on remix them into true stereo. i am a big beatles fan but sorry it just strikes me as a blatant cash grab and i will NOT be buying this. the stereo box is good enough for me. Cash grab or not, I think it is absolutely essential that The Beatles are remixed in glorious surround sound so I will be buying the super deluxe version personally. I have three copies of the album already - the 1987 CD releases, and the 2009 mono (in the boxset) and stereo release. As a predominant headphone user, the only one that does the album any justice for me personally is the original mono pressing and I think that goes for most Beatles albums. The stereo remastering is what gets my goat personally as opposed to this essential release - I can't understand that after 40 years and with the technology to remix in surround sound, people thought the rushed stereo releases were worthy of rereleases. George Martin himself said they were mere afterthoughts and the fact that neither Martin nor his son Giles were involved in the 2009 remasters maybe suggests as much. Now granted, remixing the album for surround sound is an incredibly complex and time consuming process that may cost a lot of money so that perhaps goes someway to explaining why this never happened. And after all, I think the mono mixes are great, but the only issue is that what with the 1960s technology, mono can sometimes sound compressed on the more elaborate Beatles tracks. When I listen to the '1' remix of Penny Lane, I can pick out the double bass from the oboes, the harmonium from the pianos, and the flute from the cor anglais. On mono, it is a bit more difficult to pick out each individual instrument and the clarity of the '1' remix just gives that song the energy and panache it must have had in the mind of Paul McCartney when he composed it, and a vibrancy to it that I didn't know existed. This hasn't happened yet, but I dream of hearing a remix of Revolution and I can only imagine that the distortion and dirtiness that John Lennon wanted on it would only be amped up to a higher level of aggression in a surround sound mix. I say this as a super fan of The Beatles too - I'm willing to allow them to rob them off my money (okay, various rereleases of the Yellow Submarine soundtrack may be a bit much!) but not because I'm a fan who will kneel before all things Beatles associated and buy any tacky shit possible, but because I like the idea of perfecting the most perfect band that ever existed in my opinion. In a way, it's like reclaiming a sense of lost innocence and rediscovering these songs all over again. The thrill I get from hearing those snippets is mind blowing and euphoric like it's the first time I'm hearing these songs. I felt like that when I bought the '1' album in 2015 despite thinking I knew it all about these songs - the original release of that in 2000 was the first ever Beatles album I heard in its entirety, and in a sense, I'd like to think that my purchase of the remixed '1' album is like starting that all over again. I pray that Sgt Pepper is the first of the remixes of ALL Beatles albums, and until future technology allows us to experience lifelike holograms of The Beatles actually playing in our living rooms along with the additional orchestras, then these surround sound remixes will be the perfect incarnation of the band! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 5, 2017 0:15:58 GMT -5
Sgt Pepper 50th anniversary track list.......
The comprehensive six-disc boxed set features:
CD 1:
New stereo album mix.
CDs 2 & 3:
33 additional recordings from the studio sessions, most previously unreleased and mixed for the first time from the four-track session tapes, sequenced in chronological order of their recording dates.
A new stereo mix of 'Penny Lane' and the 2015 stereo mix of 'Strawberry Fields Forever'.
CD 4:
Direct transfers of the album's original mono mix and the 'Strawberry Fields Forever' and 'Penny Lane' singles.
Capitol Records' U.S. promotional mono single mix of 'Penny Lane'.
Previously unreleased early mono mixes of 'She's Leaving Home, 'A Day In The Life,' and 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' (a mix thought to have been erased from a tape in 1967, but discovered during archive research for the anniversary edition).
Discs 5 & 6 (Blu-ray and DVD):
New 5.1 surround audio mixes of the album and 'Penny Lane' by Giles Martin and Sam Okell, plus their 2015 5.1 surround mix of 'Strawberry Fields Forever'.
High resolution audio versions of the new stereo mixes of the album and 'Penny Lane' and of the 2015 stereo mix of 'Strawberry Fields Forever'.
Video features: 4K restored original promotional films for 'Strawberry Fields Forever,' 'Penny Lane,' and 'A Day In The Life;' plus The Making of Sgt. Pepper, a restored, previously unreleased documentary film broadcast in 1992, featuring insightful interviews with McCartney, Harrison, and Starr, and in-studio footage introduced by George Martin.
BLURAY/DVD
1-13 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band new stereo/5.1
14 Strawberry Fields Forever - 2015 5.1 mix
15 Penny Lane new 5.1 mix
16 The Making Of Sgt. Pepper restored
17 A Day In The Life - 2017 Audio
18 Strawberry Fields Forever - 2017 Audio
19 Penny Lane - 2017 Audio
CD1 - album, new 2017 stereo mix
CD2
1 Strawberry Fields Forever - Take 1
2 Strawberry Fields Forever - Take 4
3 Strawberry Fields Forever - Take 7
4 Strawberry Fields Forever - Take 26
5 Strawberry Fields Forever - Stereo/Giles Martin Mix (probably the 2015 mix)
6 When I'm Sixty-Four
7 Penny Lane - Take 6
8 Penny Lane - Vocal Overdubs and Speech
9 Penny Lane - Stereo / Giles Martin Mix 2017
10 A Day In The Lif e- Take 1
11 A Day In The Life - Take 2
12 A Day In The Life - Orchestra Overdub
13 A Day In The Life - Hummed Last Chord
14 A Day In The Life - The Last Chord
15 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - Take 1
16 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - Take 9
17 Good Morning Good Morning - Take 1
18 Good Morning Good Morning - Take 8
CD3
1 Fixing A Hole - Take 1
2 Fixing A Hole - Speech And Take 3
3 Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!
4 Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! - Take 7
5 Lively Rita - Speech and Take 9
(Should read "Lovely Rita")
6 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - Take 1 And Speech
7 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - Speech
8 Getting Better - Take 1
9 Getting Better - Take 12
10 Within You Without You - Take 1
11 Within You Without You - George Coaching The Musicians
12 She's Leaving Home - Take 1
13 She's Leaving Home - Take 6
14 With A Little Help From My Friends - Take 1
15 Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) Speech and Take 8
CD4
1-13 album in mono, original mono mix
14 Strawberry Fields Forever (mono single)
15 Penny Lane (mono single)
16 A Day In The Live - First Mono Mix
17 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - Original Mono Mix (lost version)
18 She's Leaving Home - First Mono Mix
19 Penny Lane - Capitol Records Mono Mix
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Post by Doc Lobster on Apr 5, 2017 1:45:05 GMT -5
I wonder if we should start a Sgt. Pepper Anniversary Edition thread, since I expect we'll talk a little bit about this release and we're starting to derail the current thread.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 5, 2017 1:50:33 GMT -5
I love Sgt. Pepper and I completely understand why it's often cited as either the #1 or #2 best album ever, but I personally like Revolver much better.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Apr 5, 2017 3:45:11 GMT -5
Let us discuss the new Sgt. Pepper edition that's coming out in May.
(mimmihopps , could you merge the posts from the other thread with this one?  ) |
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 5, 2017 5:14:09 GMT -5
Let us discuss the new Sgt. Pepper edition that's coming out in May.
(mimmihopps , could you merge the posts from the other thread with this one? ) Done.  |
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Post by beentherenow on Apr 5, 2017 12:08:08 GMT -5
Crazy how good this album is as it is but even crazier that it should have had Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on it as well!
I'll probably get the 2 disk version
I love stuff like this but I brought The Wall Immersion Box Set a year or so ago and haven't listen the 2/3 of the stuff on it
Nice to look at every 6 months though
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 5, 2017 12:16:58 GMT -5
Crazy how good this album is as it is but even crazier that it should have had Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on it as well! I'll probably get the 2 disk version I love stuff like this but I brought The Wall Immersion Box Set a year or so ago and haven't listen the 2/3 of the stuff on it Nice to look at every 6 months though Yeah. Strawberry and Penny would have elevated Pepper to an even higher plane of existence. Not sure where they would have slotted in because they came out long before the Pepper concept was fully formed. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 5, 2017 12:20:48 GMT -5
I love Sgt. Pepper and I completely understand why it's often cited as either the #1 or #2 best album ever, but I personally like Revolver much better. Ive always found it fascinating over the decades how Pepper is perceived. Up until the mid 90s it seemed like Pepper was always claimed as the best album of all time. Then trendy new publications began to list Pet Sounds above it. That is something I never agreed with. Nice record. Innovative record but not the greatest in this man's opinion. Over the last 10 years or so, now Revovler is the record often being singled out as the best album ever. Keep in mind this is now 40+ years later. Interesting to see how views and interpretations change with time. Not saying you in particular but overall. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 5, 2017 12:37:21 GMT -5
I love Sgt. Pepper and I completely understand why it's often cited as either the #1 or #2 best album ever, but I personally like Revolver much better. Ive always found it fascinating over the decades how Pepper is perceived. Up until the mid 90s it seemed like Pepper was always claimed as the best album of all time. Then trendy new publications began to list Pet Sounds above it. That is something I never agreed with. Nice record. Innovative record but not the greatest in this man's opinion. Over the last 10 years or so, now Revovler is the record often being singled out as the best album ever. Keep in mind this is now 40+ years later. Interesting to see how views and interpretations change with time. Not saying you in particular but overall. I love Sgt. Pepper's. I think it's a fantastic record, definitely in the top 3 (I'm a Beatles super fan). Not to be trendy, but in my opinion, Pet Sounds is better. The Beatles didn't really approach the level of innovation that Brian Wilson had on that album. They made it more palatable, but few people have produced music at the level of Pet Sounds, from the mixes of instrumentation, to the key changes (I still don't know what key Wouldn't it Be Nice is in), to the harmonies, and just the amazing music theory behind it. Quite frankly, Pet Sounds has always been a musicians' album. Brian Wilson brought the best session musicians in the US together and locked them in a recording studio. The level of musicality is at such a high plane; reading the musical notation for it is like reading a cheat code for music. Over the years, as I've become more involved in recording and writing, Pet Sounds has only gained stature. Sgt. Pepper has a lot of the ear-candy. Those easily identifiable pop hooks that the Beatles were great at, but I think Pet Sounds is better crafted and executed album. So for me, in terms of the album as an art form, Pet Sounds is the high water that no one has really approached since. Nevertheless, I think Highway 61 Revisited is better than both |
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Post by arthurmorgan on Apr 5, 2017 13:03:19 GMT -5
No Carnival of Light? I know it's probably shit but I don't care. Now is the chance to release it, isn't it?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 5, 2017 13:10:40 GMT -5
No Carnival of Light? I know it's probably shit but I don't care. Now is the chance to release it, isn't it? Harrison hated it. Would never sign off on it. I doubt Olivia would do it herself. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 5, 2017 14:02:40 GMT -5
I love Sgt. Pepper and I completely understand why it's often cited as either the #1 or #2 best album ever, but I personally like Revolver much better. Ive always found it fascinating over the decades how Pepper is perceived. Up until the mid 90s it seemed like Pepper was always claimed as the best album of all time. Then trendy new publications began to list Pet Sounds above it. That is something I never agreed with. Nice record. Innovative record but not the greatest in this man's opinion. Over the last 10 years or so, now Revovler is the record often being singled out as the best album ever. Keep in mind this is now 40+ years later. Interesting to see how views and interpretations change with time. Not saying you in particular but overall. Oh I don't think Revolver is a BETTER album than Sgt. Pepper. I just like that style of music a bit better. I absolutely love Pet Sounds too. That's also one of my most favourite albums ever. It's innovative, has simple yet very personal and melancholic lyrics and is well produced. Plus it has the most beautiful song ever on it. At the time it wasn't that acclaimed and didn't do as well as Brian hoped. In the UK they loved it. Luckily it's been praised more and more over the years. Both very influential, great and innovative albums, but apples and pears. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 5, 2017 14:06:06 GMT -5
Crazy how good this album is as it is but even crazier that it should have had Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane on it as well! I'll probably get the 2 disk version I love stuff like this but I brought The Wall Immersion Box Set a year or so ago and haven't listen the 2/3 of the stuff on it Nice to look at every 6 months though Yeah. Strawberry and Penny would have elevated Pepper to an even higher plane of existence. Not sure where they would have slotted in because they came out long before the Pepper concept was fully formed. Oh come on, the concept was a lot of baloney apart from the first two songs and the reprise. The other songs just happened to fit in well, stylistically. I once heard they were supposed to be in the place of When I'm 64 and Fixing A Hole, but not sure. Fantastic songs though. Having said that, Magical Mystery Tour is also a great "album". |
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Post by beentherenow on Apr 5, 2017 14:54:56 GMT -5
I do think Revolver is their best album, in fact I also prefer Abbey Road and Rubber Soul to Sgt Pepper
Sgt Pepper is a 9/10 album but the Beatles were a phenomenon who did so many truly fantastic albums that it only comes 4th overall (maybe even 5th depending on which mood I'm in listening to the White Album)
Sgt Peppers scope and imagination cannot be understated and as a concept it's incredible however as songs there's only Day in the Life and She's Leaving Home which would make my top 25 Beatles songs
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