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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 13:36:39 GMT -5
What if Oasis reunite and release a double album? Disc 1 all Noel, Disc 2 all Liam. Like Outkast did. <insert pirate smiley here> k few things: 1. whos writing Liams stuff? is it Noel? Liam? LAG? I can only assume with 110% certainty that Noel would write his own disc. 2. Does Noel or Liam feature on eachothers discs at all? 3. does the same band play on both discs? 3. do they tour together or do you have to purchase tickets to their own gigs? 4. if they tour separately who gets the album bandmates and who has to bus more in? 5. if they have nothing to do with eachothers disc or not tour together is it really oasis? 6. do Liam and Noel come together for the album cover? 7. how do they promote the album? alone? together? 8. who decides on the theme of the album? 9. can Liam bring the pub back to the studio when noels recording? 10. how can Noel run things with an iron fist if hes not there? 11. who decides what songs are good enough? 12. who gets disc 1 and who gets disc 2? you know they both want disc 1. 13. is saxophone allowed? and finally have you really thought this through?
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Post by mossy on Jan 17, 2017 13:46:42 GMT -5
What if Oasis reunite and release a double album? Disc 1 all Noel, Disc 2 all Liam. Like Outkast did. <insert pirate smiley here> k few things: 1. whos writing Liams stuff? is it Noel? Liam? LAG? I can only assume with 110% certainty that Noel would write his own disc. 2. Does Noel or Liam feature on eachothers discs at all? 3. does the same band play on both discs? 3. do they tour together or do you have to purchase tickets to their own gigs? 4. if they tour separately who gets the album bandmates and who has to bus more in? 5. if they have nothing to do with eachothers disc or not tour together is it really oasis? 6. do Liam and Noel come together for the album cover? 7. how do they promote the album? alone? together? 8. who decides on the theme of the album? 9. can Liam bring the pub back to the studio when noels recording? 10. how can Noel run things with an iron fist if hes not there? 11. who decides what songs are good enough? 12. who gets disc 1 and who gets disc 2? you know they both want disc 1. 13. is saxophone allowed? and finally have you really thought this through? The only thing I know for sure is that the answer to 13 is yes.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 17, 2017 14:56:47 GMT -5
bastardnumber1, do you have any info on Liam taking care of his voice for the forthcoming tour/album cycle? has he done something new and/or put more effort on himself?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 15:33:12 GMT -5
bastardnumber1 , do you have any info on Liam taking care of his voice for the forthcoming tour/album cycle? has he done something new and/or put more effort on himself? I think we can assume probably not tbh besides simply resting up from not singing much because hes not been doing anything vocally, the only thing that might help Liam out now is surgery and thats not a certain fix and his voice might be too far gone for that to have much of an effect so probably wouldnt even be worth taking a risk of wrecking it even further eg julie andrews. overall though Im not expecting anything hugely improved from what he has been doing, if he surprises me then so be it but weve had this too many times now that he starts out sounding refreshed only to degrade again a few gigs later. he might be doing things like vocal warmups and maybe a new singing stance / style but it is still Liam at the end of the day, he doesnt seem bothered about doing such things, though he did lower his mic stand on the BE tour and sometimes sing standing up right so he might carry that on.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 17, 2017 15:37:47 GMT -5
bastardnumber1 , do you have any info on Liam taking care of his voice for the forthcoming tour/album cycle? has he done something new and/or put more effort on himself? I think we can assume probably not tbh besides simply not singing much because hes not been doing anything vocally, the only thing that might help Liam out now is surgery and thats not a certain fix and his voice might be too far gone for that to have much of an effect so probably wouldnt even be worth taking a risk of wrecking it even further eg julie andrews. overall though Im not expecting anything hugely improved from what he has been doing, if he surprises me then so be it but weve had this too many times now that he starts out sounding refreshed only to degrade again a few gigs later. he might be doing things like vocal warmups and maybe a new singing stance / style but it is still Liam at the end of the day, it probably wont be doing much. I thought so, but I'd like to disagree. I think vocal coaching would do wonders to Liam. He's never know how to sing per se. Amazing voice, graced by the gods, but poor singing. A new stance and vocal warmups are pretty good as well. He could stop drinking and smoking too, but I'm really not expecting that to happen till he hits, hm, 80
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 15:54:41 GMT -5
I think we can assume probably not tbh besides simply not singing much because hes not been doing anything vocally, the only thing that might help Liam out now is surgery and thats not a certain fix and his voice might be too far gone for that to have much of an effect so probably wouldnt even be worth taking a risk of wrecking it even further eg julie andrews. overall though Im not expecting anything hugely improved from what he has been doing, if he surprises me then so be it but weve had this too many times now that he starts out sounding refreshed only to degrade again a few gigs later. he might be doing things like vocal warmups and maybe a new singing stance / style but it is still Liam at the end of the day, it probably wont be doing much. I thought so, but I'd like to disagree. I think vocal coaching would do wonders to Liam. He's never know how to sing per se. Amazing voice, graced by the gods, but poor singing. A new stance and vocal warmups are pretty good as well. He could stop drinking and smoking too, but I'm really not expecting that to happen till he hits, hm, 80 well vocal coaching wouldnt do any harm and yea it could do him some good but can you imagine Liam stood in a room being told hes not singing "lalalalalala" in the right key? hed probably just turn around and say "ah fuck this man, I just like havin it d'you know what I mean, cant be on it everyday, Im off to the pub" seem to remember he even said that he realises that he needs to look after his voice if he wants to keep singing along with stopping smoking etc but I dont think he really did anything with that new found knowledge. he probably couldve been like chris martin tbh but he seemed intent on "keeping his voice raw" which is fine but it loses its appeal when you start sounding like a walrus. fact is really though, he shouldve been doing these things when he started getting problems in 1998, doing it now isnt really going to have any big advantages like it would have as its protecting your voice from further damage as well as fine tuning what you have, its worth a try now but its abit too little to late really.
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Post by Rolo on Jan 17, 2017 15:56:36 GMT -5
This album cycle and tour is huge for Liam, he knows that. I think he will do his best to keep his voice in shape as it has a lot riding on it this time round, even more than the second Beady Eye album. I'm expecting to see some great vocals to start off with, I just hope he continues that throughout the tour this time.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 17, 2017 16:02:28 GMT -5
I thought so, but I'd like to disagree. I think vocal coaching would do wonders to Liam. He's never know how to sing per se. Amazing voice, graced by the gods, but poor singing. A new stance and vocal warmups are pretty good as well. He could stop drinking and smoking too, but I'm really not expecting that to happen till he hits, hm, 80 well vocal coaching wouldnt do any harm and yea it could do him some good but can you imagine Liam stood in a room being told hes not singing "lalalalalala" in the right key? hed probably just turn around and say "ah fuck this man, I just like havin it d'you know what I mean, cant be on it everyday, Im off to the pub"seem to remember he even said that he realises that he needs to look after his voice if he wants to keep singing along with stopping smoking etc but I dont think he really did anything with that new found knowledge. he probably couldve been like chris martin tbh but he seemed intent on "keeping his voice raw" which is fine but it loses its appeal when you start sounding like a walrus. Don't doubt him. The man runs 7 miles a day. Backwards!!! Yeah, I can't really see it, but he's gotta try and see if it works out at least. Maybe the coach'd put him some Beatles songs to play along, who knows? Bet he'd be pretty happy about the lessons. I wouldn't use Chris as an example cause Chris is and always have been much more of a singer than Liam. But it's alright and I totally agree with your last sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 18:32:08 GMT -5
This album cycle and tour is huge for Liam, he knows that. I think he will do his best to keep his voice in shape as it has a lot riding on it this time round, even more than the second Beady Eye album. I'm expecting to see some great vocals to start off with, I just hope he continues that throughout the tour this time. Im hoping for some solid pro shot this time around, we got hardly anything for the BE cycle and stuff we did get was the festival run in 2013 when Liam was knackered, shame really cause they did have some really good gigs in there.
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Post by aky on Jan 17, 2017 20:57:56 GMT -5
liam should headline glastonbury.
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Post by tezza198 on Jan 17, 2017 23:17:58 GMT -5
Yeah for example the videos for BE were shit (besides shine a light that was great) they missed out on a huge opportunity with flick of the finger, that was boring as shit if it wasn't for the great song I would have been embarrassed for them. Second bite of the apple was okay but looked cheap and soul love was decent. Actually what the hell am I talking about, anything Liam does is god like. Peace out 🖖🏼
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2017 14:08:59 GMT -5
Just be cool Liam. Bravado and past accomplishments don't mean shit in the new musical landscape.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2017 14:39:54 GMT -5
bastardnumber1, the 3 songs you've heard (or have you heard more now?), in what way would you say they were "Lennon-y" (as Liam termed them)? Is it just that Liam's doing his 70s Lennon impression with his vocal, or do they sound, stylistically, like Lennon as well? (i.e. the musicianship/arrangement/production of them)
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Post by Jgrp on Jan 18, 2017 14:57:33 GMT -5
bastardnumber1 , do you have any info on Liam taking care of his voice for the forthcoming tour/album cycle? has he done something new and/or put more effort on himself? I think we can assume probably not tbh besides simply resting up from not singing much because hes not been doing anything vocally, the only thing that might help Liam out now is surgery and thats not a certain fix and his voice might be too far gone for that to have much of an effect so probably wouldnt even be worth taking a risk of wrecking it even further eg julie andrews. overall though Im not expecting anything hugely improved from what he has been doing, if he surprises me then so be it but weve had this too many times now that he starts out sounding refreshed only to degrade again a few gigs later. he might be doing things like vocal warmups and maybe a new singing stance / style but it is still Liam at the end of the day, he doesnt seem bothered about doing such things, though he did lower his mic stand on the BE tour and sometimes sing standing up right so he might carry that on. Whatever happened to the video of FOTF on Jools? Taken off YouTube. Anyone got a copy/link?
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Post by joladella on Jan 18, 2017 15:00:33 GMT -5
Whatever happened to the video of FOTF on Jools? Taken off YouTube. Anyone got a copy/link?
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Post by Rolo on Jan 18, 2017 15:11:58 GMT -5
Surprised we still don't know who is producing it yet. How did the production sound on the songs bastardnumber1 , if you can remember?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 15:41:26 GMT -5
Surprised we still don't know who is producing it yet. How did the production sound on the songs bastardnumber1 , if you can remember? Produced by 'the band'
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Post by Jgrp on Jan 18, 2017 16:02:04 GMT -5
Whatever happened to the video of FOTF on Jools? Taken off YouTube. Anyone got a copy/link? Nice one! Thank you! Such a chooooooon!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 16:09:29 GMT -5
I think we can assume probably not tbh besides simply resting up from not singing much because hes not been doing anything vocally, the only thing that might help Liam out now is surgery and thats not a certain fix and his voice might be too far gone for that to have much of an effect so probably wouldnt even be worth taking a risk of wrecking it even further eg julie andrews. overall though Im not expecting anything hugely improved from what he has been doing, if he surprises me then so be it but weve had this too many times now that he starts out sounding refreshed only to degrade again a few gigs later. he might be doing things like vocal warmups and maybe a new singing stance / style but it is still Liam at the end of the day, he doesnt seem bothered about doing such things, though he did lower his mic stand on the BE tour and sometimes sing standing up right so he might carry that on. Whatever happened to the video of FOTF on Jools? Taken off YouTube. Anyone got a copy/link? Ive talked about that before, BBC seem to upload things sometimes and then remove them for no real reason, for example barry gibb at glastonbury with coldplay was taken down. can only assume its something to do with copyright.
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Post by mouth on Jan 18, 2017 16:16:23 GMT -5
flick of the finger is a tune! how can the majority of the other stuff that beady eye did be so shite?
also his voice is pretty okayish here. or maybe that's just in comparision to ian brown live, which i did watch before i watched this.
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Post by freddy838 on Jan 18, 2017 16:22:17 GMT -5
All he needs to do is whatever he did on the Different Gear tour where he was solid throughout. The radio sessions they did at the start were fantastic and throughout the festivals he seemed to be having a good time and the performances were decent. I wonder whether Noel has given him a wink and said if he can pull this off, then they may get together again once they both get their albums out their system this year.
There you go, a Liam voice and reunion post all in one!
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Post by Rolo on Jan 18, 2017 16:27:50 GMT -5
This album cycle and tour is huge for Liam, he knows that. I think he will do his best to keep his voice in shape as it has a lot riding on it this time round, even more than the second Beady Eye album. I'm expecting to see some great vocals to start off with, I just hope he continues that throughout the tour this time. To add to this, he will be wanting to prove Noel wrong about the comments he made about Liam's voice in the interviews he did last year. Come on Liam!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 16:38:22 GMT -5
This album cycle and tour is huge for Liam, he knows that. I think he will do his best to keep his voice in shape as it has a lot riding on it this time round, even more than the second Beady Eye album. I'm expecting to see some great vocals to start off with, I just hope he continues that throughout the tour this time. To add to this, he will be wanting to prove Noel wrong about the comments he made about Liam's voice in the interviews he did last year. Come on Liam! he released BE with a more honest sound to prove he could still sing and that didnt really do much to change peoples opinions, Id say he was probably more on form overall during the tour compared to previous tours but again not to the extent that would make people say "wow this guy can still really sing". all Im saying is I dont question Liams want and desire to sing better but hes got his limits now, theres only good he can sound, he showed up on TFI to sing my generation, that was about a year and half of literally no singing and he still sounded pretty weak for a fully rested Liam, he cant simply reverse years of damage and come out singing like its 2001 again. I hope he does deliver a really good vocal but Im sure Im going to see some comments like "I hoped he would sound better than this" with overzealous expectations. point is is Liam even physically capable of producing a vocal somewhere even close to what he could? I like to hope so but I do doubt it.
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Post by Jgrp on Jan 18, 2017 17:03:56 GMT -5
This album cycle and tour is huge for Liam, he knows that. I think he will do his best to keep his voice in shape as it has a lot riding on it this time round, even more than the second Beady Eye album. I'm expecting to see some great vocals to start off with, I just hope he continues that throughout the tour this time. To add to this, he will be wanting to prove Noel wrong about the comments he made about Liam's voice in the interviews he did last year. Come on Liam! What did Noel say about his voice?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2017 17:09:04 GMT -5
Surprised we still don't know who is producing it yet. How did the production sound on the songs bastardnumber1 , if you can remember? Produced by 'the band' Everything in lower case looks so early 00s now. It's not a stylistic choice that has aged well... (...a bit like the musical content on there, then!)
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