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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Oct 5, 2016 12:00:08 GMT -5
Do you think that a band you have outgrown, or that sold out, like Coldplay, or Kasabian even, would ever release an album, that would catch your attention?
Can you think of positive examples where a band got back on it's path, against all odds?
I believed the Chili Peppers were a band I would never listen again after Stadium Arcadium. But their new record really sparked new interest in the band for me.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 5, 2016 12:05:00 GMT -5
Do you think that a band you have outgrown, or that sold out, like Coldplay, or Kasabian even, would ever release an album, that would catch your attention? Can you think of positive examples where a band got back on it's path, against all odds? I believed the Chili Peppers were a band I would never listen again after Stadium Arcadium. But their new record really sparked new interest in the band for me. I thought Coldplay was going to make a strong artistic comeback with Ghost Story. When "Midnight" dropped randomly and had that cool ass video I thought finally, Coldplay was doing something interesting! That. Did. Not. Happen.  |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Oct 5, 2016 12:17:48 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day and I thought, the Chili Peppers really lost their touch and went on to sound a little too mainstream and generic during the time the singer was married to Heidi Klum.
Now my theory is, and it might even be the general oppinion, that Coldplay became worse after the singers relationship with a hollywood star.
Obviously this theory got disproved after the release of Ghost Stories.
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Post by glider on Oct 5, 2016 12:18:04 GMT -5
Coldplay no longer exist. They are a non-entity.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Oct 5, 2016 12:32:41 GMT -5
Coldplay no longer exist. They are a non-entity. Byron didn't probably think about Coldplay. But in that case, it would be acceptable if they would go and say farewell now, forever, |
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Post by arthurmorgan on Oct 5, 2016 13:01:50 GMT -5
Interesting question. Bob Dylan had a "return to form" with Time Out Of Mind and David Bowie did the same with The Next Day.
The Fall released mostly uninteresting stuff in the 90s but made "The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country On The Click)" in 2004 which is one of their best albums.
Apart from these two I can't think of any examples. Coldplay are obviously trying to attract the widest audience possible right now. They won't make a great album again
And I don't think that Kasabian are even capable of recording a great album tbh
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Post by supersonicdrain on Oct 5, 2016 13:02:32 GMT -5
All I can say is that a band that sells out is no longer in my books. Hugely disappointed in Coldplay, their first few albums had it all but ofc that went sideways with Ghost stories etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 13:09:40 GMT -5
coldplay could do it, they simply just have to write an album thats more like they used to but they wont because I think chris didnt like the idea of coldplay being branded "a depressing band" so started writing things that people could dance to and all that game, its worked for them tbh, it got them more famous, someone I know said they only like them now theyve lightened up, they certainly moved with the times and tried to keep contemporary, its just a shame that their song quality suffered as a result.
I saw a video of them on tour and the stage is a mass of colour compared to the older days of just blacks etc, just feel they overdo that happy vibe abit too much.
certainly felt like theyve lost a lot at glastonbury this year, just seem shallow.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2016 13:45:10 GMT -5
They are shallow and worse than that, total shit. I could accept it if they were shallow but good but they aren't. Two of the last three albums have been a total embarrassment the other a bland non entity. Fuck them and there obvious pursuit of popularity and fame.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2016 13:46:37 GMT -5
Oh and the post above more or less fits the Kings of Leon as well as Coldplay. Fuck them too.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 5, 2016 14:10:32 GMT -5
Coldplay is gone and will never return. I've moved on. I'll check out new release by them but my expectations are at an all-time low. Same could be said for Kings of Leon. It's like someone cut their balls off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 14:17:39 GMT -5
Oh and the post above more or less fits the Kings of Leon as well as Coldplay. Fuck them too. Ive never seen the appeal in kings of leon tbh, I got an album here somewhere and its possibly one of the worst albums Ive ever heard, its just track after track of pure shit in musical form. |
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Post by carlober on Oct 5, 2016 14:50:33 GMT -5
Coldplay are not coming back.
With their latest albums (well, probably since Princess of China came out) they've established a fanbase which is immensely wider, younger and - for the most part - not very musically cultured.
Who cares about writing quality music when a collaboration with fucking Beyoncè can bring you some tens of thousands of new fans? Also, it's frightening to hear that Chris Martin, who once spoke about being influenced by bands like U2, Travis and Radiohead, now talks about liking Justin Bieber songs and similar bullshit.
Some songs on the last album could have been good but they were crafted in such a way that they became exactly like the shitty, candy-pop, radio-friendly stuff that fills the radio nowadays. The target audience for Coldplay is now formed by directioners, beliebers and people who genuinely think that Rihanna writes her own songs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 5, 2016 14:52:14 GMT -5
I don't believe in Coldplay!
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Post by joladella on Oct 5, 2016 14:55:42 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day and I thought, the Chili Peppers really lost their touch and went on to sound a little too mainstream and generic during the time the singer was married to Heidi Klum. I hate to admit my tabloid knowledge, but he only briefly dated Heidi Klum. The musician she was married to was Seal. So you cannot really blame her for that.  |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Oct 5, 2016 15:03:32 GMT -5
Weezer are a positive example in my opinion.
Their latest two albums actually connected with people who liked The Blue Album and Pinkerton
and they have released some straight garbage over a period of more than 15 years.
The problem is, Weezer's popularity has been declining, while Coldplay's popularity actually is still rising with what they release.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Oct 5, 2016 15:04:46 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day and I thought, the Chili Peppers really lost their touch and went on to sound a little too mainstream and generic during the time the singer was married to Heidi Klum. I hate to admit my tabloid knowledge, but he only briefly dated Heidi Klum. The musician she was married to was Seal. So you cannot really blame her for that. Thank god, that's not true!  |
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Post by carlober on Oct 5, 2016 15:04:48 GMT -5
The matter with Kasabian is a little bit different, I guess.
Their debut album was brilliant but things went quickly downhill after Chris Karloff left.
I like a few of their songs from the following albums but none of them is great in my opinion: Velociraptor was still an enjoyable listen, but the latest one (48:13) was just embarrassing and total shit. I can't believe that many Kasabian fans loved it, I thought that only 2 songs on it were good. And what about that track called Eez-Eh (or whatever it's called)? Worse and more annoying than a Lady Gaga single!
Serge thinks he's a musical genius and Tom wants to be Liam Gallagher. Sadly for them, they're not.
They got a lot of swagger but not quality music or real talent to back it up.
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Post by joladella on Oct 5, 2016 15:12:29 GMT -5
The matter with Kasabian is a little bit different, I guess. Their debut album was brilliant but things went quickly downhill after Chris Karloff left. I like a few of their songs from the following albums but none of them is great in my opinion: Velociraptor was still an enjoyable listen, but the latest one (48:13) was just embarrassing and total shit. I can't believe that many Kasabian fans loved it, I thought that only 2 songs on it were good. And what about that track called Eez-Eh (or whatever it's called)? Worse and more annoying than a Lady Gaga single! Serge thinks he's a musical genius and Tom wants to be Liam Gallagher. Sadly for them, they're not. They got a lot of swagger but not quality music or real talent to back it up. I don't love it, but I certainly like it and enjoy listening to it. And who gives a frak who the singer wants to be? He sings and sounds like Tom Meighan and that's all that matters to me. Eez-Eh only makes sense live, on the album it is the weakest track, IMO. |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Oct 5, 2016 15:22:20 GMT -5
The matter with Kasabian is a little bit different, I guess. Their debut album was brilliant but things went quickly downhill after Chris Karloff left. I like a few of their songs from the following albums but none of them is great in my opinion: Velociraptor was still an enjoyable listen, but the latest one (48:13) was just embarrassing and total shit. I can't believe that many Kasabian fans loved it, I thought that only 2 songs on it were good. And what about that track called Eez-Eh (or whatever it's called)? Worse and more annoying than a Lady Gaga single! Serge thinks he's a musical genius and Tom wants to be Liam Gallagher. Sadly for them, they're not. They got a lot of swagger but not quality music or real talent to back it up. I'm not sure what it is. But a point has been reached with Kasabian after West Ryder, when they didn't take themselves seriously and became infantile (allthough there is nothing wrong with being infantile at times). But they have just become irritating with age which makes me wonder. Maybe it's like they feel too old and want to be down with the kids. They try to embrace their pop appeal. But they never had one in the first place. It seems imposed. |
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Post by carlober on Oct 5, 2016 15:29:51 GMT -5
The matter with Kasabian is a little bit different, I guess. Their debut album was brilliant but things went quickly downhill after Chris Karloff left. I like a few of their songs from the following albums but none of them is great in my opinion: Velociraptor was still an enjoyable listen, but the latest one (48:13) was just embarrassing and total shit. I can't believe that many Kasabian fans loved it, I thought that only 2 songs on it were good. And what about that track called Eez-Eh (or whatever it's called)? Worse and more annoying than a Lady Gaga single! Serge thinks he's a musical genius and Tom wants to be Liam Gallagher. Sadly for them, they're not. They got a lot of swagger but not quality music or real talent to back it up. I don't love it, but I certainly like it and enjoy listening to it. And who gives a frak who the singer wants to be? He sings and sounds like Tom Meighan and that's all that matters to me. Eez-Eh only makes sense live, on the album it is the weakest track, IMO. Well, that's just my opinion. I didn't mean to insult anybody, of course! To each his/her own, but I can say I'm not really looking forward to Kasabian's next album. However, differently from Coldplay, I feel that they still have the power to bring out a very listenable album with some good highlights, as they did with Velociraptor. Let's hope they do  And no, sorry but I can't really hear any good quality in Eez-Eh. It's downright annoying, it feels totally uninspired and forced. And the worst fact is that it came from a band that I like, or liked. It's not my cup of tea and not what I'd like to hear from Kasabian. IMHO |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 5, 2016 15:38:32 GMT -5
Weezer are a positive example in my opinion. Their latest two albums actually connected with people who liked The Blue Album and Pinkerton and they have released some straight garbage over a period of more than 15 years. The problem is, Weezer's popularity has been declining, while Coldplay's popularity actually is still rising with what they release. Which is a real problem, as that means people are going deaf, apparently. |
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Post by matt on Oct 5, 2016 15:45:43 GMT -5
Some bands are beyond redemption. Coldplay are shite at the moment but they are only as good as the producers they hire.
Ken Nelson - straight up conventional alternative rock
Brian Eno/Markus Dravs - exciting, kaleidoscopic and varied.
Paul Epworth - dull as dishwater
Stargate - really really really fucking shite.
Job Hopkins - ethereal and contemplative
All these producers qualities line straight up with Coldplay on the albums they worked on. Midnight was only two years ago and I feel that if they made an album with Jon Hopkins, then it would be amazing. The point is, they aren't beyond redemption - that's different from Kasabian who are beyond redemption having fallen so far from their excellent debut with knuckle dragging caveman shtick - throw any producer at them now, and it would still be an endless stream of bellowing IQ decreasing shite.
But it's merely a case of what path Chris Martin and co want to go down. Sadly for most of us, they've chosen the wrong path and don't look like getting on the right one and that's their problem at the end of the day.
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Post by joladella on Oct 5, 2016 15:46:42 GMT -5
Well, that's just my opinion. I didn't mean to insult anybody, of course! I'm sorry, it was just this "I can't believe that many Kasabian fans loved it" that got my goat, when it surely was not meant the way it read. So, all good!  Still, you inspired me to put on 48:13 just now. Thanks for that! |
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Post by andybellwillring on Oct 5, 2016 15:54:22 GMT -5
The current Coldplay is the sound of near 40-year old millionaires trying their very best to be as commercial as possible in order to keep milking the cash cow. Of course they have every right to do so, the music they release is mind-numbingly boring however.
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