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Sept 18, 2016 16:40:29 GMT -5
Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 18, 2016 16:40:29 GMT -5
What is your honest prediction of Liam's impending solo work? I don't necessarily want to know what you think it will be like - more what you think it's legacy will be. I think deep down we all knew that Beady Eye would flop; it was a reactionary move, decided upon the night Oasis split. This is slightly more calculated and natural. Do you think that the name 'Liam Gallagher' is enough of a drag any more for this to be a success?
Personally I think best case scenario is that, with the hype surrounding Supersonic - which will last a while - people will be interested to know what he is doing nowadays. This will help out his first album sales and then, like Beady Eye, he will see a slight downturn in fortunes (though I sincerely hope not)
What do you all think?
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Sept 18, 2016 17:53:37 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 17:53:37 GMT -5
I think the 90s are the last good decade. Big masses of people in their 30s are dying of nostalgia seeing the lots of shit we are being fed every day.
We are the perfect market that almost nobody is taking care off and Liam Gallagher is the perfect product.
He is still young, he can deliver without looking like a creep.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 18:18:44 GMT -5
Commercially it will be a complete failure, worse than Beady Eye.
Liam's legacy will be in being the best frontman of a generation, completely incomparable in his time. I'll happily buy what he does now, but nobody else will.
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Sept 18, 2016 18:21:38 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 18:21:38 GMT -5
beady eye shouldve at least been called Liam gallaghers beady eye to purely capitalize on Liams name after the oasis split, forget that its not technically his band aka Noel gallaghers high flying birds but his name means something to people, beady eye could be anybody (and its a shit band name anyhow) Liam can bring something good from this but he has to get it right, BE was hardly promoted at all (most people probably didnt even know there was a new album some people didnt even know who beady eye were) which should be remedied this time with warner bros and all in all he needs to impress with his vocal because thats been the thorn in his side for a while so its time to impress or go on holiday to ibiza. beady eye didnt do enough, if he does well in this then that will simply be seen as something that didnt work out but if this is lukewarm too then he will basically live up to the idea that Liam is nothing without Noels songs. I have a feeling his album will be like richard ashcrofts new one, its good but its not amazing (I hope im wrong) Im at least hoping for something that will give Liam enough to build on it and create something of note outside oasis because at the moment thats all hes done of great achievement and that may not come around again. Hope hes got a great lead single to at least turn peoples heads. simple.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Sept 18, 2016 18:50:38 GMT -5
i think liam has enough juice to carry a solo career under his own name i just hope he dont throw the towel in if he dont get number 1 in any chart,,he has a good fanbase in the uk who is itching to see what he does next
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Sept 19, 2016 2:23:21 GMT -5
¿What is a legacy? ¿Is a legacy catching the early flight home from San Diego and a couple of nude people jump out of your bathroom blindfolded like a goddamn magic show ready to double team your girlfriend?
Thanks.
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Sept 19, 2016 6:34:58 GMT -5
Post by RocketMan on Sept 19, 2016 6:34:58 GMT -5
i honestly don't care about his legacy, just give me at least one good song and i'll be a happy man
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 7:05:58 GMT -5
point is had Liam walked away after knebworth and did no singing ever again, he would probably be regarded as one of the greatest rock n roll singers of all time without much argument....which he still is regarded as such but due to him singing either averagely or below average for quite a long time now people forget how great he was once and with things like beady eye showing that hes not much without oasis it has taken the shine off his "legacy".
problem is Liam is a frontman and bloody brilliant one at that but hes not an all round musician like Noel is nowadays, when you dont have the man writing the songs that worked for him and no longer has the voice to make waves, it probably means that hes not going to strike it big again.
I just hope whatever happens its enough to please him and give him enough to carry on and not quit.
I still feel the best thing for Liam to do is get someone to write his songs and stick to what hes good at but if he feels his songs are good enough then go for it.
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Sept 19, 2016 7:26:15 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 7:26:15 GMT -5
Somewhere between ouch and boing!
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Sept 19, 2016 8:38:59 GMT -5
Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 19, 2016 8:38:59 GMT -5
Commercially it will be a complete failure, worse than Beady Eye. Liam's legacy will be in being the best frontman of a generation, completely incomparable in his time. I'll happily buy what he does now, but nobody else will. It's a legacy that dies with us. Most of the world recognizes no such thing.
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Sept 19, 2016 8:43:20 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 8:43:20 GMT -5
Commercially it will be a complete failure, worse than Beady Eye. Liam's legacy will be in being the best frontman of a generation, completely incomparable in his time. I'll happily buy what he does now, but nobody else will. It's a legacy that dies with us. Most of the world recognizes no such thing. we wont die. you and I are gonna live forever
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 19, 2016 8:58:33 GMT -5
I doubt Liam will chart well. But that doesn't mean what he produces is necessarily bad. So long as he turns a profit, I think he should stay positive and continue making music. It doesn't need to be great. The Bee Gees went at it for 20 more years after their popularity nosedived and they still made many albums of noteworthy music despite most of the world thinking they split in the early 80's. Fuck popularity.
Besides, streaming is where it's at these days. Focus on youtube and vevo. If you can get millions of views on youtube, you're doing alright as an artist, especially if you can get in 'trending'.
Also, keep that finished album in tight fists! Avoid leaks. And if it does leak, place it on youtube ASAP (as unlisted until release date) and tweet the link to capitalize on the hype. People will seek out free legal means before they move to illegality. Don't ignore advertising if this happens. Continue as planned. Most people won't realize it leaked. Focus on drawing in new fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 9:00:39 GMT -5
Release a single and 2 weeks later the album. No 4 months.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 19, 2016 9:05:51 GMT -5
Also, regarding youtube, Liam should release short clips of some sort, maybe in the studio, or at home, maybe in the mastering process of his new album. Doesn't really matter what it is. Keep us updated on the progress. Keep us interested in what you're doing. Tease us just enough to create a little buzz. Do some Q&A livestreams on youtube. Hell, do a streamed public hangout with some friends of note and just talk about whatever (these are getting more popular).
Connect with your fans. This will draw new people in and satisfy those already supporting you.
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Sept 19, 2016 9:18:41 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 9:18:41 GMT -5
Also, regarding youtube, Liam should release short clips of some sort, maybe in the studio, or at home, maybe in the mastering process of his new album. Doesn't really matter what it is. Keep us updated on the progress. Keep us interested in what you're doing. Tease us just enough to create a little buzz. Do some Q&A livestreams on youtube. Hell, do a streamed public hangout with some friends of note and just talk about whatever (these are getting more popular). Connect with your fans. This will draw new people in and satisfy those already supporting you. one or two scandls might also help get on a fist fight with damon albarn, or something alike
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Sept 19, 2016 9:45:50 GMT -5
Post by frogerz on Sept 19, 2016 9:45:50 GMT -5
Commercially it will be a complete failure, worse than Beady Eye. Liam's legacy will be in being the best frontman of a generation, completely incomparable in his time. I'll happily buy what he does now, but nobody else will. There's no way this will be worse than Beady Eye commercially. First of all they didn't do too badly compared to most artists. DGSS was the biggest selling No.3 for years and BE only charted in at number 2 because of Black Sabbath releasing an album the same week.
Granted after that it didn't do much but initial sales were better than a lot of established artists.
The fact Liam's new album will carry his name will be massive as most people had never heard of Beady Eye. His name is still massive around the UK and the world.
This also in the era that Blossoms got the lowest selling number 1, I think he'll do alright and secure a number 1 album for a couple of weeks at least.
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Post by cloudburster on Sept 19, 2016 11:35:56 GMT -5
Richard Ashcroft's last album got to #3, and while it was panned, it shows that a fair number of people still look out for his stuff. Liam was in a band far larger and more popular than the Verve, so I can see him getting a fair crack at success, sales / chart-wise
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Sept 19, 2016 12:16:05 GMT -5
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 19, 2016 12:16:05 GMT -5
Richard Ashcroft's last album got to #3, and while it was panned, it shows that a fair number of people still look out for his stuff. Liam was in a band far larger and more popular than the Verve, so I can see him getting a fair crack at success, sales / chart-wise Except Richard Ashcroft has had two top 3 singles, three other top 3 albums, and over a half a decade to build a fanbase outside of Verve fans. Liam's debut, with the right promotion, would be able to hit top 3 in the albums chart, but any long-term success would probably be limited. Unless it's really good and well-received, which I can't imagine happening at this point in time based on his previous output. Of course, we Oasis fans enjoy everything he releases, but it'll be harder to win over everyone else.
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Sept 19, 2016 12:26:44 GMT -5
Post by cloudburster on Sept 19, 2016 12:26:44 GMT -5
Richard Ashcroft's last album got to #3, and while it was panned, it shows that a fair number of people still look out for his stuff. Liam was in a band far larger and more popular than the Verve, so I can see him getting a fair crack at success, sales / chart-wise Except Richard Ashcroft has had two top 3 singles, three other top 3 albums, and over a half a decade to build a fanbase outside of Verve fans. Liam's debut, with the right promotion, would be able to hit top 3 in the albums chart, but any long-term success would probably be limited. Unless it's really good and well-received, which I can't imagine happening at this point in time based on his previous output. Of course, we Oasis fans enjoy everything he releases, but it'll be harder to win over everyone else. Well as his first solo album I can see it generating enough buzz for a top 3 minimum. Ashcroft's first solo album went to number one didn't it? Admittedly it was a different time, but Liam was/is far more popular than Ashcroft. Beady Eye debuted at number 3 with sales of 65,000+, which for 2011 was a very respectable figure when you consider that the Oasis/Gallagher name was nowhere to be seen and promotion wasn't great. It'll be harder to sustain good figures on albums 2, 3, etc (as Noel has found out, as did Beady Eye), but Liam's sizeable Oasis fanbase will guarantee enough interest for a decent opening, purely out of curiosity.
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Sept 19, 2016 12:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 12:33:43 GMT -5
Also, regarding youtube, Liam should release short clips of some sort, maybe in the studio, or at home, maybe in the mastering process of his new album. Doesn't really matter what it is. Keep us updated on the progress. Keep us interested in what you're doing. Tease us just enough to create a little buzz. Do some Q&A livestreams on youtube. Hell, do a streamed public hangout with some friends of note and just talk about whatever (these are getting more popular). Connect with your fans. This will draw new people in and satisfy those already supporting you. He needs a Facebook page.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 12:49:05 GMT -5
Also, regarding youtube, Liam should release short clips of some sort, maybe in the studio, or at home, maybe in the mastering process of his new album. Doesn't really matter what it is. Keep us updated on the progress. Keep us interested in what you're doing. Tease us just enough to create a little buzz. Do some Q&A livestreams on youtube. Hell, do a streamed public hangout with some friends of note and just talk about whatever (these are getting more popular). Connect with your fans. This will draw new people in and satisfy those already supporting you. He needs a Facebook page. He needs a ghostwriter or two actually.
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Post by space75gr on Sept 20, 2016 5:35:06 GMT -5
legacy? He s a legend, a national treasure He s LIAM GALLAGHER
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Sept 20, 2016 8:47:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 8:47:11 GMT -5
A legacy is planting flowers in a garden you will never see.
Who cares.
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Sept 20, 2016 11:51:59 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Sept 20, 2016 11:51:59 GMT -5
A legacy is planting flowers in a garden you will never see. Who cares. The other people sitting in the garden admiring the flowers? And their kids, or at least the ones with a horticultural leaning. x
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Sept 20, 2016 12:24:44 GMT -5
Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 20, 2016 12:24:44 GMT -5
Potato legend.
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