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Post by World71R on Jul 2, 2017 16:16:34 GMT -5
I went out walking through streets paved with gold Lifted some stones, saw the skin and bones Of a city without a soul I went out walking under an atomic sky Where the ground won't turn and the rain it burns Like the tears when I said goodbye.
Yeah, I went with nothing, nothing but the thought of you. I went wandering.
I went drifting through the capitals of tin Where men can't walk or freely talk And sons turn their fathers in. I stopped outside a church house Where the citizens like to sit. They say they want the kingdom But they don't want God in it.
I went out riding down that old eight-lane I passed a thousand signs looking for my own name. I went with nothing but the thought you'd be there too, Looking for you.
I went out there in search of experience To taste and to touch and to feel as much As a man can before he repents.
I went out searching, looking for one good man A spirit who would not bend or break Who would sit at his father's right hand. I went out walking with a bible and a gun The word of God lay heavy on my heart I was sure I was the one.
Now Jesus, don't you wait up, Jesus I'll be home soon. Yeah, I went out for the papers, told her I'd be back by noon. Yeah, I left with nothing but the thought you'd be there too Looking for you.
Yeah, I went with nothing, nothing but the thought of you. I went wandering. Zooropa is such a brilliant album. I freaking love The Wanderer and Stay. You can't beat Johnny Cash's vocals on the former and the heart-aching beauty of the latter. A couple more worth mentioning are Zooropa and Lemon. Those songs are epics in a way that defines how much of a creative peak U2 was at during this time period. The former is one of their best songs and paints an incredible picture and sets up a futuristic atmosphere.
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Post by World71R on Jul 2, 2017 16:19:08 GMT -5
For top 10 greatest, right off the top of my head, I'd say (in no particular order besides Streets at #1):
1. Streets 2. Bad 3. Until the End of the World 4. Zooropa 5. Mofo 6. Please 7. One 8. Stay 9. New Year's Day 10. With or Without You
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 6:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 4, 2017 16:13:19 GMT -5
It's amazing how much Bono mimics Ian McCulloch on all those early early U2 albums. A forgotten influence of U2.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 4, 2017 19:03:28 GMT -5
It's amazing how much Bono mimics Ian McCulloch on all those early early U2 albums. A forgotten influence of U2. U2 stole many things from their peers during their early years: the Edge's guitar licks from Echo & the Bunnymen, the "ooooohhhhh" backing vocals from Siouxsie & The Banshees, Bono's singing style from Jim Kerr and Ian McCulloch and other little things here and there from other bands, but it wasn't a bad thing of course, it was for the better.
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Post by matt on Jul 6, 2017 17:28:04 GMT -5
It's amazing how much Bono mimics Ian McCulloch on all those early early U2 albums. A forgotten influence of U2. Presentation wise perhaps but lyrically and thematically, Bono from an early age wasn't imitating anyone. I think Boy is a remarkably mature debut album from a bunch of lads who'd just exited their teens. Sonically of course, it's very rudimentary and raw, but those rough edges make the album seem more authentic in its youthful naivety. Common U2 themes such as loss of innocence and feelings of aimlessness are there, mainly couched in the matter of his mothers death. I'm a big fan of the Bunnymen, but I think Bono has more depth than McCulloch personally.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 6, 2017 17:30:22 GMT -5
It's amazing how much Bono mimics Ian McCulloch on all those early early U2 albums. A forgotten influence of U2. Presentation wise perhaps but lyrically and thematically, Bono from an early age wasn't imitating anyone. I think Boy is a remarkably mature debut album from a bunch of lads who'd just exited their teens. Sonically of course, it's very rudimentary and raw, but those rough edges make the album seem more authentic in its youthful naivety. Common U2 themes such as loss of innocence and feelings of aimlessness are there, mainly couched in the matter of his mothers death. I'm a big fan of the Bunnymen, but I think Bono has more depth than McCulloch personally. I meant in terms of the sound of his voice.
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Post by matt on Jul 6, 2017 17:35:22 GMT -5
Presentation wise perhaps but lyrically and thematically, Bono from an early age wasn't imitating anyone. I think Boy is a remarkably mature debut album from a bunch of lads who'd just exited their teens. Sonically of course, it's very rudimentary and raw, but those rough edges make the album seem more authentic in its youthful naivety. Common U2 themes such as loss of innocence and feelings of aimlessness are there, mainly couched in the matter of his mothers death. I'm a big fan of the Bunnymen, but I think Bono has more depth than McCulloch personally. I meant in terms of the sound of his voice. I think Bono's voice is a bit more blunt, outlandish and effeminate than McCullochs, not a criticism mind because he makes it work but McCullochs seems a bit more restrained and enigmatic in his style.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 6, 2017 23:12:40 GMT -5
Firs and foremost, this is a nice article from a couple of days ago abot Echo & The Bunnymen. www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/05/echo-and-the-bunnymen-10-of-the-bestU2 guys were all big Bunnymen's fans, too bad Ian was a dickhead towards them, but yes, U2 took some other inspirations from Echo besides Bono/Ian vocal style. That atmospheric guitar licks from The Edge, well, he should thank Will Sergeant first before call that trick his own, but over time it became more or less The Edge's trademark, also The Unforgettable Fire was them trying to do their own Ocean Rain, and I know the band loved Heaven Up Here when they went to do War. I bet Larry learned a lot with Peter De Freitas, the best drummer from his era alongside Steve Copeland, Just hear this live version of Over The Wall from the Shine So Hard EP (the best version of the song) and pay attention to his drumming, mindblowing, one word to describe this song: tension.
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Post by matt on Jul 7, 2017 17:36:07 GMT -5
Firs and foremost, this is a nice article from a couple of days ago abot Echo & The Bunnymen. www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/05/echo-and-the-bunnymen-10-of-the-bestU2 guys were all big Bunnymen's fans, too bad Ian was a dickhead towards them, but yes, U2 took some other inspirations from Echo besides Bono/Ian vocal style. That atmospheric guitar licks from The Edge, well, he should thank Will Sergeant first before call that trick his own, but over time it became more or less The Edge's trademark, also The Unforgettable Fire was them trying to do their own Ocean Rain, and I know the band loved Heaven Up Here when they went to do War. I bet Larry learned a lot with Peter De Freitas, the best drummer from his era alongside Steve Copeland, Just hear this live version of Over The Wall from the Shine So Hard EP (the best version of the song) and pay attention to his drumming, mindblowing, one word to describe this song: tension. The difference between De Freitas and Michael Lee (drummer from Evergreen - the first proper Bunnymen record since the self-titled one) is night and day. Fair enough to Lee, the compositions were more broadly alternative rock as opposed to post-punk, but that tension and nervous energy of De Freitas is replaced by a rather generic style which was synonymous with everything about that album in my opinion.
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Post by carlober on Jul 18, 2017 9:15:09 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 18, 2017 9:35:47 GMT -5
Man Bono was right! That was a SPEEDY follow up to Songs of Innocence. Only TOOK 3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 11:36:07 GMT -5
i saw echo and the bunnymen open for the violent femmes this past saturday night. their set was.... ok. a bit underwhelming, if i'm being totally honest. but it was a great show.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 18, 2017 12:43:45 GMT -5
i saw echo and the bunnymen open for the violent femmes this past saturday night. their set was.... ok. a bit underwhelming, if i'm being totally honest. but it was a great show. Love me some Bunnymen!
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Post by matt on Jul 18, 2017 13:05:20 GMT -5
i saw echo and the bunnymen open for the violent femmes this past saturday night. their set was.... ok. a bit underwhelming, if i'm being totally honest. but it was a great show. Experienced a Barrowlands gig in 2011 - the worst gig ever, Ian was drunk and rambling, taunted the crowd and restarted several songs over. Not surprisingly, everyone started getting aggressive towards them, and who could blame them - £30 up the fucking swanney all for that. I love them and their early work (of which in fairness they played - or tried to play) but it was an absolutely pitiful showing. Not sure what was going on personally with Ian at the time but he was in a right state.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 13:47:32 GMT -5
i saw echo and the bunnymen open for the violent femmes this past saturday night. their set was.... ok. a bit underwhelming, if i'm being totally honest. but it was a great show. Experienced a Barrowlands gig in 2011 - the worst gig ever, Ian was drunk and rambling, taunted the crowd and restarted several songs over. Not surprisingly, everyone started getting aggressive towards them, and who could blame them - £30 up the fucking swanney all for that. I love them and their early work (of which in fairness they played - or tried to play) but it was an absolutely pitiful showing. Not sure what was going on personally with Ian at the time but he was in a right state. that really sucks when you plunk down a nice chunk of your hard-earned cash to see a band you like play live, only to have them turn in a half-assed performance.
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Post by matt on Jul 21, 2017 18:08:51 GMT -5
A quite fascinating and in depth interview with the band, much of it retrospective. No matter what people think, I think Bono's a really articulate guy showing a great deal of thoughtfulness to the songs he's written with the band.
I was struck by what he said when discussing The Unforgettable Fire and The Joshua Tree, stating that 'incomplete thoughts (in lyrics) are generous because they allow the listener to finish them'. The more abstract and somewhat sketchy nature of his lyrics particularly in The Unforgettable Fire are more evocative than a lot of the dross he writes today, which is far too literal and unimaginative I feel (which makes it even more puzzling that he acknowledges this but doesn't transfer it to his music anymore). I thought they contributed massively to the dreamy feel of that record, going hand in hand with The Edge's sonic wizardry and soundscapes.
P.S. Bono's looking his age these days!
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Post by durk on Jul 21, 2017 18:53:42 GMT -5
that was a great interview
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Post by matt on Jul 22, 2017 11:08:58 GMT -5
that was a great interview I used to think of Zane Lowe as a brown nosing arselicker to all acts he talks to, but with today's music journalism you have to give it to him and I think he's one of the best; he really knows his stuff and for those acts that he loves (which he evidently does with U2) he is able to really delve into the music. Less interested in the person, more interested in the actual music - the same cannot be said for 99% of most interviewers.
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Post by matt on Jul 29, 2017 16:50:06 GMT -5
I was reading a U2 forum, where a couple of trusted members heard the apparent new single in Amsterdam. Not really arsed about what it sounds like, because we've been here before, but it just struck me how desperately poor U2s lead singles have been post-All That You Can't Leave Behind.
Vertigo, Get On Your Boots and The Miracle all have a worrying trend whereby every subsequent release is worse than its predecessor. I realise Vertigo is marmite, some love it and some hate it, but I listened to it a few days ago, and I just didn't get it. It really is U2 on autopilot and the Spanish jargon in it is cringe worthy. Get On Your Boots is a downright mess of a song, while The Miracle is probably the blandest song they've ever released. Contrived and boring melody, can't remember what the drums and bass line sounds like as it's that uninteresting, while The Edge is deeply unimpressive with his most insipid uninspired playing ever. All he does is play chords with a little distortion.
They'd really have to buck the trend to have just a decent lead single. They haven't had a good one since Beautiful Day (which I think is a great great record) - that's 17 years ago now, the same time between the release of War and All That You Can't Leave Behind......
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Post by World71R on Jul 31, 2017 2:51:55 GMT -5
I was reading a U2 forum, where a couple of trusted members heard the apparent new single in Amsterdam. Not really arsed about what it sounds like, because we've been here before, but it just struck me how desperately poor U2s lead singles have been post-All That You Can't Leave Behind. Vertigo, Get On Your Boots and The Miracle all have a worrying trend whereby every subsequent release is worse than its predecessor. I realise Vertigo is marmite, some love it and some hate it, but I listened to it a few days ago, and I just didn't get it. It really is U2 on autopilot and the Spanish jargon in it is cringe worthy. Get On Your Boots is a downright mess of a song, while The Miracle is probably the blandest song they've ever released. Contrived and boring melody, can't remember what the drums and bass line sounds like as it's that uninteresting, while The Edge is deeply unimpressive with his most insipid uninspired playing ever. All he does is play chords with a little distortion. They'd really have to buck the trend to have just a decent lead single. They haven't had a good one since Beautiful Day (which I think is a great great record) - that's 17 years ago now, the same time between the release of War and All That You Can't Leave Behind...... Totally agreed. Gone are the days where U2 took risks with their lead single to try and push those songs into the mainstream as a part of the album and first single hype, like The Fly, Numb, and Discotheque. Now it's a desperate attempt to pull people in with a rawk song that started to sound the same after Vertigo's success. It started with Elevation, which wasn't the first single so there's an exception there but it was a pretty good tune musically (especially the riff), then moved on to Vertigo which is alright & a solid rock tune that does have some kick to it, and then the other two you mentioned which, I completely agree, are two messes and a half. Out of those, I think Vertigo was the only right choice for lead single. Otherwise, GOYB and The Miracle were two crappy choices. Magnificent and Every Breaking Wave or California should've been the first single for their respective albums, without a doubt imo.
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Post by carlober on Jul 31, 2017 6:37:52 GMT -5
According to U2Songs a music video for a song apparently named 'Best Thing' was filmed in Amsterdam in the past couple of days. The single release date for early September seems to be pretty much confirmed at this point.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 31, 2017 8:02:04 GMT -5
To think now that U2 is in more or less a position that The Rolling Stone were in the 90's, releasing mediocre albums for huge tours.
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 31, 2017 8:02:04 GMT -5
According to U2Songs a music video for a song apparently named 'Best Thing' was filmed in Amsterdam in the past couple of days. The single release date for early September seems to be pretty much confirmed at this point. Oh God, the Kygo song from last year!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 31, 2017 8:04:48 GMT -5
I just don't have the U2 strength anymore.
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