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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 28, 2016 10:47:11 GMT -5
People should be naked, not albums! Looking around the seafront today and seeing Katie Hopkins in a newspaper I can't see I agree all people should....  |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 30, 2016 12:00:09 GMT -5
I think most people in this thread havent seen their wives naked, never mind BHN
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Post by NYR on Jul 30, 2016 12:26:47 GMT -5
I'd love to hear it, especially if someone trimmed the fat, cut the bloat, and tightened it down to 50-55 minutes instead of 72.
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Post by carlober on Jul 30, 2016 15:36:01 GMT -5
I think most people in this thread havent seen their wives naked, never mind BHN I didn't know you were married  |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 30, 2016 16:58:43 GMT -5
I think most people in this thread havent seen their wives naked, never mind BHN I didn't know you were married He's not, that's why he said "most people" as he has a loving relationship with Mrs Palm  liamgallagher1992 you know I'm only joking mate, and talking of that sort of description Kante- applauding or booing him on his return to KP this coming season?  |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 30, 2016 17:14:20 GMT -5
I'd love to hear a re-thought version of Heathen Chemistry. Yes one where it never happened preferably |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 31, 2016 17:08:40 GMT -5
I didn't know you were married He's not, that's why he said "most people" as he has a loving relationship with Mrs Palm liamgallagher1992 you know I'm only joking mate, and talking of that sort of description Kante- applauding or booing him on his return to KP this coming season? I do love forum banter. He'll be getting booed and rightly so. His decision is everything fans have come to hate about the modern game. Purely motivated by greed and lifestyle. Some fairytale when your star player thinks earning 50k a week isnt enough. |
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Post by asdfgjhkl19 on Aug 2, 2016 11:34:34 GMT -5
i said IHITIK was fine as it is earlier in thread but i take that back now. i just listened to this demo again and there's a bunch of guitar parts in it that you just can't hear in the album version. for example in the pre-chorus @ 0:44-0:56
the album version just sounds like one big noise compared to that demo. i get it, the bloated nature of BHN is part of its charm or whatever. i have a soft spot for BHN. but there comes a point where u just have to face facts and the fact is the terrible mixing literally just makes the songs worse. it even ruins the loud songs. it's just bad. i can't believe noel is happy leaving BHN as it is. the final result of BHN clearly wasn't his original vision for the songs. it was a mistake and he's been given a chance to fix that mistake and he just can't be bothered. i don't get it. the production ruins all the hard work he put into writing & recording the songs and it makes him look bad as a result. evidence suggests that underneath all the noise the songs are actually a lot better than they seem and you'd think noel would wanna show that. but clearly not
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Post by kennerado on Aug 2, 2016 22:44:40 GMT -5
Yeah I tend to agree with you, the demo of Magic Pie sounds A LOT better as well because its missing a few of the guitar layers. It is seriously baffling why Noel would not want to do his "rethink" for every song on the record, considering his well known dislike of the album. This is a chance to "make it right" so to speak, hey don't get me wrong - I also have a love for the loud noisy 20 plus guitar tracks on every song but come on, after hearing DYKWIM rethink - it would be super cool to hear the stripped back instrumentation.
Listen to this:
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Post by mossy on Aug 3, 2016 4:26:28 GMT -5
I didn't know you were married He's not, that's why he said "most people" as he has a loving relationship with Mrs Palm liamgallagher1992 you know I'm only joking mate, and talking of that sort of description Kante- applauding or booing him on his return to KP this coming season? I'm not sure his relationship with Mrs Palm is that loving tbh. The neighbors say they hear them having hand to gland combat all the time :-( |
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Post by andymorris on Aug 3, 2016 5:14:31 GMT -5
BHN is the only Oasis album that should be Naked. The cocaine version is great, but there is something underneath, a more subtle record that would blow people's mind if the 96 layers of guitars were removed and the tracks shortened.
Keep one or two rhythm guitars, one or two lead, up the bass, keep the vocals, and BHN Naked will make History.
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Post by mossy on Aug 3, 2016 10:15:26 GMT -5
BHN doesn't need to get completely naked. It just needs to take off its huge furry coat and show the sexy underwear that's underneath.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Aug 3, 2016 12:02:26 GMT -5
Yeah I tend to agree with you, the demo of Magic Pie sounds A LOT better as well because its missing a few of the guitar layers. It is seriously baffling why Noel would not want to do his "rethink" for every song on the record, considering his well known dislike of the album. This is a chance to "make it right" so to speak, hey don't get me wrong - I also have a love for the loud noisy 20 plus guitar tracks on every song but come on, after hearing DYKWIM rethink - it would be super cool to hear the stripped back instrumentation. Listen to this: It would be great if nutsngum could work their magic like they did on DYKWIM and isolate Liam's vocals on Don't Go Away so we could combine them with this backing track. I'm sure the end result would be stunning. |
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Post by mossy on Aug 3, 2016 15:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 3, 2016 16:43:51 GMT -5
BHN is the only Oasis album that should be Naked. The cocaine version is great, but there is something underneath, a more subtle record that would blow people's mind if the 96 layers of guitars were removed and the tracks shortened. Keep one or two rhythm guitars, one or two lead, up the bass, keep the vocals, and BHN Naked will make History. I love BHN, but I can see why others don't. Strip it back like you suggest, and I think fans will discover a whole new album, an album that proved BHN was the masterpiece follow-up to WTS, that unfortunately got lost under the weight of all that layered, overdubbed noise. |
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Post by wozdareden on Aug 4, 2016 6:15:49 GMT -5
And the songs are too long... No need to repeat endlessly the chorus.
Less is more.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 4, 2016 15:08:54 GMT -5
And the songs are too long... No need to repeat endlessly the chorus. Less is more. Actually its the one album where I don't mind the songs being long. I'm enjoying many of them so much I don't want them to end...and I think the band were obviously feeling the same when recording it. I love It's Getting Better Man with its long winding outro, likewise the last half of Magic Pie is orgasmic, AATW is epic and goosebumpy. This is the reason why it is my all time favourite album |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Aug 4, 2016 18:55:49 GMT -5
I want the BHN clock tattoed on me Johnothan Thomas.
Thanks.
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Post by asdfgjhkl19 on Aug 5, 2016 11:05:07 GMT -5
Yeah I tend to agree with you, the demo of Magic Pie sounds A LOT better as well because its missing a few of the guitar layers. It is seriously baffling why Noel would not want to do his "rethink" for every song on the record, considering his well known dislike of the album. This is a chance to "make it right" so to speak, hey don't get me wrong - I also have a love for the loud noisy 20 plus guitar tracks on every song but come on, after hearing DYKWIM rethink - it would be super cool to hear the stripped back instrumentation. Listen to this: i've never heard that before. there's tons of stuff in there that isn't really audible in the album version like the horns (  ?) at around 2:00. i've never liked the electric guitar on don't go away. it just overpowers everything and sounds kind of shit in my opinion. they were obviously going for a slide away vibe but i don't think it was really appropriate. there's not a single song on BHN that doesn't contain some form of electric guitar and that's one of the reasons it's so hard to listen to as an album. one of the best things about morning glory is there's smooth songs to go with the rough, but BHN just doesn't have that this is my fav version of don't go away and the album version should've been more like this imo: as a side note: i read an interview with nick brine recently and in it he said "owen morris was determined to use up all 96 tracks on the mixing desk" like it was a good thing. I think that explains a lot. fucking hell. i will get a lot of flack for this but i think owen morris is a complete joke for what he did to BHN. i don't rate him at all. he tries to deflect the blame in interviews by saying "oh yeah we were all on cocaine it was crazy" and yeah, maybe you were all on coke, but noel still did his job properly (well, mostly), liam still did his job properly - you were the only one who didn't do their job properly. he was too busy trying to be one of the lads instead of doing what he was paid to do. he completely lost the plot. obviously noel had a big say in production but owen morris was the producer. it was literally his job to make sure the songs didn't sound like shit here's the interview with nick brine actually if anybody wants to read it: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=265 |
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?) at around 2:00. i've never liked the electric guitar on don't go away. it just overpowers everything and sounds kind of shit in my opinion. they were obviously going for a slide away vibe but i don't think it was really appropriate. there's not a single song on BHN that doesn't contain some form of electric guitar and that's one of the reasons it's so hard to listen to as an album. one of the best things about morning glory is there's smooth songs to go with the rough, but BHN just doesn't have that