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Post by Rolo on Dec 13, 2016 14:24:31 GMT -5
This was a great vocal.
Edit - Wow, seems like he was on fire this gig.
Best Gimme Shelter of the tour right there.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 13, 2016 14:59:15 GMT -5
I don't think people don't believe he can't sing anymore it's more of how long can it last. Once the touring starts the decline begins. He's really like a relief pitcher in baseball, a man off the bench in soccer or basketball. Great in short bursts. Still a killer studio guy. I'm not on about this forum mate, I'm on about in general. That's the frustrating thing about Liam, I don't know how he can go from sounding this good to dreadful in a matter of weeks. I don't know if it's a mentality thing? You can tell he is really trying here. Last time I saw Liam live was in June 2011. Holy shit has it been that long? Anyways, I saw him play Live On Letterman and the next night at Webster Hall. Liam sounded tremendous. No it wasn't his 90s voice but it was his very very strong voice from 2002ish. I was extremely impressed and happy that he came off so well, especially on The Late Show with David Letterman. However, I caught Beady Eye one last time in December 2011 at Terminal 5. That show was a train wreck performance by Liam. He was shouting, cutting off words and sounded like Kermit the frog. It pains me to write that. That was the last time I saw Beady Eye or heard Liam sing live. I wish I could delete it from my memory. Horrible last impression. Looking forward to his next American visit and fix past transgressions. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 13, 2016 15:04:53 GMT -5
No reason he can't have a good, long solo career. He shouldn't be expecting number 1s, number 10s even number 20s. Just keep knocking the solo albums out, with plenty of live gigs with a good chunk of Oasis material, and he'll be fine. Just needs to keep that ego in check. Yes, Liam and Noel too, should let go of the charts and being #1. Listen to The Jam song! You don't need that to be successful in your own mind. Write good tunes, play them well and believe in it. I could care less where his music charts. I just want enough success so that he keeps going and the fans are into it. If he tours, do 2-3 gigs a week max. No back to back days. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 17:57:09 GMT -5
Liam would nail this song.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 13, 2016 18:00:41 GMT -5
Liam would nail this song. Dedicated to Ms Appleton for every performance presumably?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 13, 2016 18:47:45 GMT -5
If anyone ever tells me Liam can't sing anymore I show them these two videos. He sounds like a fucking angel on Start Anew. I don't think people don't believe he can't sing anymore it's more of how long can it last. Once the touring starts the decline begins. He's really like a relief pitcher in baseball, a man off the bench in soccer or basketball. Great in short bursts. Still a killer studio guy. I dunno, man... Some of those BE recordings are ROUGH... Maybe that's him just wanting to get it done and dusted and be out on the road again (I think they did say they were only in there with Sitek 3 weeks or something... and now I think on it, in supersonic Liam spoke with fondness about the Morning Glory sessions, and they were also only a matter of weeks, weren't they?...maybe Liam just doesn't like hanging about?), or maybe that idea to strip his vocals of all effects and "go naked" was a little too adventurous, I dunno, but I'd like a better quality of vocal performance from him this time round. I just hope the alarming speed at which he seems to be making the thing isn't down to him going "ah fuck it, that'll do" (as I assume he must have done after he recorded Soon Come Tomorrow and Girls In Uniform, etc., etc.)... But then again, Sitek did speak of how talented Liam was, and Ted Kessler and bastardnumber1 who, unlike me, have actually heard some of it, say he sounds great, so... Maybe it'll all be fine in the end, and he'll sound just like he did on DOYS... Who knows?...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 18:50:50 GMT -5
Does he use autotune? Somebody here said that he definitely used it on Keep the Dream Alive and DOYS.
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Post by Thomas on Dec 13, 2016 19:33:25 GMT -5
Does he use autotune? Somebody here said that he definitely used it on Keep the Dream Alive and DOYS. Of course he does. So does Noel and pretty much every musician out there. People often think of autotune as the obviously and instantly recognizable pop-music voice effect (in the lack of a better word). Well, that's also autotune, but it also works in much smaller scales. I've been co-producing my band's album this year and if I post in here an isolated vocal track of a song people would say there's no autotune at all. But there is. It's just barely noticeable, the way it works. Autotune was invented in 1997. IIRC Oasis started using autotune in Standing On The Shoulder Of The Giants. You can notice it quite easily in Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar, but it's there in every single tune (no, it's not in FITB, yer bastard! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif) ). I remember people posting the Soldier On and Flick Of The Finger isolated vocal tracks to "prove" Liam didn't use autotune. But he does! It's in there. Gotta listen carefully
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Post by Rolo on Dec 13, 2016 19:59:23 GMT -5
This might be one of my favourite post 2000 Liam vocals on record. theyknowwhatimean What are your thoughts on this one mate?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 13, 2016 20:41:05 GMT -5
This might be one of my favourite post 2000 Liam vocals on record. theyknowwhatimean What are your thoughts on this one mate? Yeah, it's alright. I'm not that mithered by the song though, if I'm being honest with you, so it doesn't do a great deal for me. My favourite song from the BE-era is probably Back After The Break, which is much more 'showy' with Liam's vocals, having him one minute right down at the bottom of his register, and the next going into falsetto - and I think he gives a very assured performance on it, rounding off nicely a great recording from all involved.
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Dec 14, 2016 2:53:13 GMT -5
Does he use autotune? Somebody here said that he definitely used it on Keep the Dream Alive and DOYS. Of course he does. So does Noel and pretty much every musician out there. People often think of autotune as the obviously and instantly recognizable pop-music voice effect (in the lack of a better word). Well, that's also autotune, but it also works in much smaller scales. I've been co-producing my band's album this year and if I post in here an isolated vocal track of a song people would say there's no autotune at all. But there is. It's just barely noticeable, the way it works. Autotune was invented in 1997. IIRC Oasis started using autotune in Standing On The Shoulder Of The Giants. You can notice it quite easily in Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar, but it's there in every single tune (no, it's not in FITB, yer bastard! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif) ). I remember people posting the Soldier On and Flick Of The Finger isolated vocal tracks to "prove" Liam didn't use autotune. But he does! It's in there. Gotta listen carefully Didn´t they say before BE was released that they didn´t use any effects on Liams voice in that album just to prove that his voice is still great? It also sounds a lot more natural in my opinion.
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Post by icebreath on Dec 14, 2016 5:44:11 GMT -5
Of course he does. So does Noel and pretty much every musician out there. People often think of autotune as the obviously and instantly recognizable pop-music voice effect (in the lack of a better word). Well, that's also autotune, but it also works in much smaller scales. I've been co-producing my band's album this year and if I post in here an isolated vocal track of a song people would say there's no autotune at all. But there is. It's just barely noticeable, the way it works. Autotune was invented in 1997. IIRC Oasis started using autotune in Standing On The Shoulder Of The Giants. You can notice it quite easily in Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar, but it's there in every single tune (no, it's not in FITB, yer bastard! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif) ). I remember people posting the Soldier On and Flick Of The Finger isolated vocal tracks to "prove" Liam didn't use autotune. But he does! It's in there. Gotta listen carefully Didn´t they say before BE was released that they didn´t use any effects on Liams voice in that album just to prove that his voice is still great? It also sounds a lot more natural in my opinion. Slight autotune is not considered "effect" nowdays. For example delay and reverb are effects. They were used in much larger scale in DGSS to give the 60's sound they wanted.
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Post by Thomas on Dec 14, 2016 9:34:07 GMT -5
Of course he does. So does Noel and pretty much every musician out there. People often think of autotune as the obviously and instantly recognizable pop-music voice effect (in the lack of a better word). Well, that's also autotune, but it also works in much smaller scales. I've been co-producing my band's album this year and if I post in here an isolated vocal track of a song people would say there's no autotune at all. But there is. It's just barely noticeable, the way it works. Autotune was invented in 1997. IIRC Oasis started using autotune in Standing On The Shoulder Of The Giants. You can notice it quite easily in Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar, but it's there in every single tune (no, it's not in FITB, yer bastard! ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif) ). I remember people posting the Soldier On and Flick Of The Finger isolated vocal tracks to "prove" Liam didn't use autotune. But he does! It's in there. Gotta listen carefully Didn´t they say before BE was released that they didn´t use any effects on Liams voice in that album just to prove that his voice is still great? It also sounds a lot more natural in my opinion. I remember this interview. I wouldn't say the lads were lying, but maybe they were trying to talk to the casual music listeners... I mean, yeah, Liam's voice sounds a lot more natural in BE than in DGSS, for sure, but there's still quite a lot of effects in their latest album. In songs like FOTF, Face The Crowd and I'm Just Saying you can see Sitek has distorted his voice quite a bit to give it more of a sonic edge, to make it stronger and rockier and all. Then he autotuned it. Then he compressed it. Like icebreath said, slight autotune isn't really considered an effect anymore. It's part of the process already. And although they'd taken loads of effects like delay and reverb and compressing and stuff, they're still there. Not in a stupidly high DGSS mode, but they're there, I promise!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 10:35:41 GMT -5
Flow Festival will announce Liam tomorrow. You heard it here first! (Please don't take this seriously. I just wish it happened because they're announcing their first artists tomorrow.) Lana Del Rey, The xx, Aphex Twin and London Grammar aren't bad artists but it's just that they don't do anything for me. Luckily those were were just the first names. Last year they announced Descendents, M83 and something else who I didn't know at this point (December). But later they announced New Order, The Last Shadow Puppets, Iggy Pop, Massive Attack, Morrissey and The Kills so there's still hope they announce something good (like Liam or Noel) ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Sorry offtopic.
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Post by Rolo on Dec 14, 2016 11:52:04 GMT -5
I need some news soon, I'm stupidly excited to for this solo album.
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Post by draper on Dec 15, 2016 10:57:54 GMT -5
I need some news soon, I'm stupidly excited to for this solo album. Got this feeling they'll release a song in january. (wasn't flick of the finger released in january as well? ) With the info bastard gave us, something sooner than later, interviews for magazines etc.
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Post by Gas Panic on Dec 15, 2016 11:41:45 GMT -5
I need some news soon, I'm stupidly excited to for this solo album. Star Wars, Christmas, and New Year coming up will keep me distracted in the short term but come January I will begin to beg for this new Liam solo material. We're bound to get something by March I would have thought, a release date at least. I cannot wait. My Gallagher excitement for the 2 upcoming albums is currently at about 80% for Liam and 20% for Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 11:45:13 GMT -5
I need some news soon, I'm stupidly excited to for this solo album. Got this feeling they'll release a song in january. (wasn't flick of the finger released in january as well? ) With the info bastard gave us, something sooner than later, interviews for magazines etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_of_the_FingerApril 2013, BE out June 2013
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Post by draper on Dec 15, 2016 12:08:11 GMT -5
Got this feeling they'll release a song in january. (wasn't flick of the finger released in january as well? ) With the info bastard gave us, something sooner than later, interviews for magazines etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_of_the_FingerApril 2013, BE out June 2013 Haha my memory isn't that good then. Must be getting older.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 12:30:24 GMT -5
Haha my memory isn't that good then. Must be getting older. if I remember correctly, it was supposed to come out late april through them stems they released as people tweeted about the album then some radio station played it about 2 weeks early and messed it all up.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 16, 2016 1:55:37 GMT -5
No reason he can't have a good, long solo career. He shouldn't be expecting number 1s, number 10s even number 20s. Just keep knocking the solo albums out, with plenty of live gigs with a good chunk of Oasis material, and he'll be fine. Just needs to keep that ego in check. Yes, Liam and Noel too, should let go of the charts and being #1. Listen to The Jam song! You don't need that to be successful in your own mind. Write good tunes, play them well and believe in it. I could care less where his music charts. I just want enough success so that he keeps going and the fans are into it. If he tours, do 2-3 gigs a week max. No back to back days. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif) A girl can dream.
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Dec 17, 2016 2:58:42 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this but wtf happened to Patsy? ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz2fGnGXAAAyL3R.jpg)
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 17, 2016 4:54:12 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this but wtf happened to Patsy? ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz2fGnGXAAAyL3R.jpg) She's pushing for fifty mate, and unless you are unfortunate in checking out early or spend a fortune on very obvious surgeries then ageing is inevitable! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Dec 17, 2016 6:00:41 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this but wtf happened to Patsy? ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz2fGnGXAAAyL3R.jpg) She's pushing for fifty mate, and unless you are unfortunate in checking out early or spend a fortune on very obvious surgeries then ageing is inevitable! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) But she looks like an orange!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 17, 2016 6:29:30 GMT -5
She's pushing for fifty mate, and unless you are unfortunate in checking out early or spend a fortune on very obvious surgeries then ageing is inevitable! But she looks like an orange! ![](http://media-assets-02.thedrum.com/cache/images/thedrum-prod/public-news-tmp-56351-1806130_orig--default--300.jpg) ![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Wotsits.JPG/200px-Wotsits.JPG) Modern celebrity/chavette look apparently- nowt like looking like you've had a coat of Ronseal or that you are the unfortunate product of a brief but fruitful liaison between a man and a wotsit to demonstrate that you still look "yooful, innit"
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