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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 19:16:49 GMT -5
Love them or more likely hate them, there're been a fair few Team Liam versus Team Noel debates on here.
But for a lighthearted change of scenery, who gets your vote out of Andy and Gem? Who made the best contribution to Oasis? Who brought the best tunes? Who brought the worst tunes? Who had the best clothes? Who just stared at their shoes..?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 19:51:22 GMT -5
I'm going Gem, he looked cooler.
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Post by Noel's Nose on Apr 1, 2016 20:14:38 GMT -5
Gem is better as a musician and looks/acts cooler. I liked the 90's Ride-era Andy, though.
Also, Gem wrote Hung in a Bad Place and Eyeball Tickler, while Andy made Turn Up the Sun, all of which are really good. Most of their other compositions are mediocre or meh at best, so I think they fared alike as songwriters within Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 20:17:09 GMT -5
live4ever.proboards.com/thread/82789/gem-andyGem. Gem: To Be Where There's Life Hung In A Bad Place Eyeball Tickler A Bell Will Ring The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up The Sun The Nature Of Reality Keep The Dream Alive Thank You For The Good Times A Quick Peep
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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 20:18:10 GMT -5
I'm going Gem, he looked cooler. Really? I always thought Gem had a bit of an aging dad-rocker thing going on. And his earring - cringe. I guess it's hard to look that cool when you're doing photoshoots with Liam Gallagher though! |
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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 20:22:31 GMT -5
Thread Nazi ;-) Didn't see that thread, I assume it was playpenned quickly before I saw it. My tongue is firmly in my cheek with this "team" thread by the way. I'm not trying to incite arguments, so play nice people. Truth is with Noel's album over a year old and with no news on the BHN reissue or other Oasis related news coupled with insomnia I'm pretty bored right now! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 20:25:08 GMT -5
Thread Nazi ;-) Didn't see that thread, I assume it was playpenned quickly before I saw it. My tongue is firmly in my cheek with this "team" thread by the way. I'm not trying to incite arguments, so play nice people. Truth is with Noel's album over a year old and with no news on the BHN reissue or other Oasis related news coupled with insomnia I'm pretty bored right now! I never understood why I got playpenned. |
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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 20:26:43 GMT -5
Thread Nazi ;-) Didn't see that thread, I assume it was playpenned quickly before I saw it. My tongue is firmly in my cheek with this "team" thread by the way. I'm not trying to incite arguments, so play nice people. Truth is with Noel's album over a year old and with no news on the BHN reissue or other Oasis related news coupled with insomnia I'm pretty bored right now! I never understood why I got playpenned. Emile Heskey getting more votes than Andy was clearly a step too far! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 1, 2016 20:27:05 GMT -5
TEAMGEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I fucking love Gem!!!!!
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Post by Noel's Nose on Apr 1, 2016 20:30:18 GMT -5
Nevermind Bonehead for life  |
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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 20:36:27 GMT -5
live4ever.proboards.com/thread/82789/gem-andyGem. Gem: To Be Where There's Life Hung In A Bad Place Eyeball Tickler A Bell Will Ring The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up The Sun The Nature Of Reality Keep The Dream Alive Thank You For The Good Times A Quick Peep Turn Up The Sun is by far my favourite out of that list. But then everything else written by Andy I don't care for much at all. So averaging over the tracks I'd probably go for Gem. Tough call. As an aside it always surprised me that DOYS got named after a non-Gallagher lyric. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Apr 1, 2016 20:42:32 GMT -5
Gem Rocks. I don't spend much time gazing at my shoes  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 20:48:07 GMT -5
TEAMGEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I fucking love Gem!!!!! Post that lovely picture of you and Gem. |
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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 20:50:38 GMT -5
Gem is better as a musician and looks/acts cooler. I liked the 90's Ride-era Andy, though. Also, Gem wrote Hung in a Bad Place and Eyeball Tickler, while Andy made Turn Up the Sun, all of which are really good. Most of their other compositions are mediocre or meh at best, so I think they fared alike as songwriters within Oasis. I must admit, I haven't really checked out Ride or Heavy Stereo that much at all. Where would you recommend starting? |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Apr 1, 2016 21:05:35 GMT -5
Gem is better as a musician and looks/acts cooler. I liked the 90's Ride-era Andy, though. Also, Gem wrote Hung in a Bad Place and Eyeball Tickler, while Andy made Turn Up the Sun, all of which are really good. Most of their other compositions are mediocre or meh at best, so I think they fared alike as songwriters within Oasis. I must admit, I haven't really checked out Ride or Heavy Stereo that much at all. Where would you recommend starting? For sure go here: |
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Post by World71R on Apr 1, 2016 21:18:30 GMT -5
Gem.
He wrote some very solid-to-good tunes and played a big role in the MkII Oasis sound, especially when Noel left the SOTSOG tour. Gem did a good job to step up when Noel left and I think he did well in the lead guitar position.
Andy did well to write some alright tunes, but I don't think he served in as much of a role as Gem did, which is unfortunate because he's a good guitarist in his own right and a good songwriter. However, I think he fell victim to Noel still having a good amount of control over the writing and creative process throughout Oasis MkII (see Noel choosing what Andy thought was the least best song for DOYS from that demo tape).
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Post by mossy on Apr 1, 2016 21:23:36 GMT -5
Gem. He wrote some very solid-to-good tunes and played a big role in the MkII Oasis sound, especially when Noel left the SOTSOG tour. Gem did a good job to step up when Noel left and I think he did well in the lead guitar position. Andy did well to write some alright tunes, but I don't think he served in as much of a role as Gem did, which is unfortunate because he's a good guitarist in his own right and a good songwriter. However, I think he fell victim to Noel still having a good amount of control over the writing and creative process throughout Oasis MkII (see Noel choosing what Andy thought was the least best song for DOYS from that demo tape). I think it's cool that Gem played a big part in supporting and helping Liam develop as a songwriter too. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 1, 2016 22:23:33 GMT -5
Gem.
I think Gem is easier to get behind.
By the time 2000 rolled around Noel and Liam were far from their working class heritage. Andy was around well-known, and most likely could have turned down Oasis and continued doing his own thing (more so than anyone else in the band, except Noel), and every drummer who came along had been part of a good lineage whether they were Alan White, a son of the Beatles, or a drummer for the La's.
However, Gem was plucked kind of from obscurity. Yea, he was on creation, but once the label folded up would anyone have seen Heavy Stereo doing anything? Probably not. They probably would have kicked around and if they were lucky they would have been that random answer to a trivia question. This is all not to belittle Gem's efforts, but he does come off as a guy who got a lottery ticket. He kind of fits in with the Oasis narrative of a guy who got his break, had his chance, and went for it. An ordinary guy like or you or me who was able to go from "obscurity" to stardom in the blink of the eye. The fact that he went on to become the third most integral member above Andy is pretty inspiring to say the least. Gem was the last edition to the Oasis fantasy story.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 1, 2016 22:49:09 GMT -5
Gem all the fucking way. Andy was kinda a let down while in Oasis considering the pedigree he had coming into the band in 1999. Just never really delivered much in the song writing department outside "Turn Up The Sun".
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Post by mystoryisgory on Apr 1, 2016 22:53:51 GMT -5
Andy. Gem couldn't write a song this good to save his life.  and let's forget that The Nature of Reality exists |
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Post by brucedubber on Apr 2, 2016 0:09:06 GMT -5
Gem, for sure. I love that guy.
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 2, 2016 0:22:31 GMT -5
Gem wrote more songs I love than Andy's, though TUTS is one of the best OAsis songs of the 00s.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 2, 2016 1:40:01 GMT -5
Neither.
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Post by brucedubber on Apr 2, 2016 2:00:46 GMT -5
Gem Rocks. I don't spend much time gazing at my shoes What a f*cking great song! |
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