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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Apr 2, 2016 4:23:21 GMT -5
Team niether. I think they both wrote all Oasis worse songs and didnt really add much else.
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 2, 2016 4:39:03 GMT -5
Better than Turn Up the Sun.
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Post by mossy on Apr 2, 2016 4:52:40 GMT -5
Andy. Gem couldn't write a song this good to save his life.  and let's forget that The Nature of Reality existsI dig it! But I was asking people to judge them on their contribution to Oasis rather than on past merits. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 2, 2016 4:54:12 GMT -5
Better than Turn Up the Sun. These 2 are the only 2 of their contributions to Oasis that I like. |
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Post by matt on Apr 2, 2016 5:27:52 GMT -5
Neither, nice blokes and all, but their songwriting was derivative and piss poor. A mere footnote in Oasis history for me (like everything post-2000).
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 2, 2016 6:18:58 GMT -5
Andy. I think he's the better musician and I prefer his best songs up against Gem's. I think Andy had a bit of a rough ride after Noel threw him under the bus. I think that still persist's to a certain extent.
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Post by mossy on Apr 2, 2016 6:38:08 GMT -5
Andy. I think he's the better musician and I prefer his best songs up against Gem's. I think Andy had a bit of a rough ride after Noel threw him under the bus. I think that still persist's to a certain extent. Out of interest which of Andy's songs do we know for sure could have been considered for Oasis albums but got vetoed? (I'm not so hot on who exactly wrote what in BDI). |
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Post by mossy on Apr 2, 2016 6:41:26 GMT -5
I must admit, I haven't really checked out Ride or Heavy Stereo that much at all. Where would you recommend starting? For sure go here: Thanks. That's one hell of a bad pun for an album title! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 7:07:31 GMT -5
Andy. I think he's the better musician and I prefer his best songs up against Gem's. I think Andy had a bit of a rough ride after Noel threw him under the bus. I think that still persist's to a certain extent. Out of interest which of Andy's songs do we know for sure could have been considered for Oasis albums but got vetoed? (I'm not so hot on who exactly wrote what in BDI). Gem: The Roller Wind Up Dream Standing On The Edge Of The Noise Three Ring Circus Flick Of The Finger (words with Andy) Second Bite Of The Apple Iz Rite Ballroom Figured Back After The Break Off At The Next Exit Andy: Four Letter Word Millionaire Kill For A Dream The Beat Goes On Flick Of The Finger (words with Gem) Face The Crowd Soon Come Tomorrow I'm Just Saying Dreaming Of Some Space Girls In Uniform |
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 2, 2016 7:21:28 GMT -5
Team guigsy! he was just standing on stage playing the bass, being high on dope and let the cash get in. Easy job.
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Post by mattyo on Apr 2, 2016 8:08:35 GMT -5
Andy
Purely for the fact that he thrown under the bus at the end by Noel like has been said. That and I felt he was the least ass kisser out of him and Gem.
Musically both really didn't bring anything to the table baring TUTS which is great.
Gem was Noel's yes man and Andy just went along with the 'oasis' thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 8:33:54 GMT -5
What happened between Noel and Andy?
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Apr 2, 2016 8:53:06 GMT -5
gem all day long he was born just down the road from where i live in county durham,,plus he wrote eyeball tickler but on the other hand i cant forgive him for the quiet ones that song is like ear rape
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 2, 2016 9:12:29 GMT -5
What happened between Noel and Andy? I think he was a bit annoyed at the fact Andy was "just standing there" during the infamous plum fight. |
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Post by andybellwillring on Apr 2, 2016 9:14:32 GMT -5
That guy from Erasure.
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Post by Regi on Apr 2, 2016 12:29:21 GMT -5
A couple of carrot-munchers.
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Post by batfink30 on Apr 2, 2016 13:27:29 GMT -5
Gem, Andys a vagina. However they're both pretty much Britpop rejects who were lucky to get into a dying Oasis and ultimately didn't contribute much of any note.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 14:20:21 GMT -5
Team Scott McLeod forever.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 6, 2016 14:49:20 GMT -5
#Bonehead
#Guigs
#Whitey
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Apr 6, 2016 14:58:43 GMT -5
TEAM NEITHER !!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 15:14:13 GMT -5
TEAM NEITHER !!! Yeah Yeah YEAH !!! ... Come on ! Come on ! Come on ! Yeah, yeah, yeaah ! Yeah, yeaah, yeah ! |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Apr 6, 2016 15:15:15 GMT -5
TEAM NEITHER !!! Yeah Yeah YEAH !!! ... Come on ! Come on ! Come on ! Yeah, yeah, yeaah ! Yeah, yeaah, yeah ! You got it YEAH BWOYYY !!!!!! |
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Post by mossy on Apr 6, 2016 17:09:56 GMT -5
... Come on ! Come on ! Come on ! Yeah, yeah, yeaah ! Yeah, yeaah, yeah ! You got it YEAH BWOYYY !!!!!! Bass, how low can you go? |
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Post by freddy838 on Apr 7, 2016 12:51:18 GMT -5
I thought they were both great live. Andy's bass was underrated IMO. It's a shame Oasis never went into a studio like Noel apparently is for his third album with no ideas, just writing and collaborating to see what they could come up with there and then, then handing the songs over to Liam to sing. In the end we were left with a mosh-mash quota system that never really delivered, like the South African cricket team. You can't deny that Gem never hit these heights though:
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Post by guigsysEstring on Apr 8, 2016 15:26:29 GMT -5
I thought they were both great live. Andy's bass was underrated IMO. It's a shame Oasis never went into a studio like Noel apparently is for his third album with no ideas, just writing and collaborating to see what they could come up with there and then, then handing the songs over to Liam to sing. In the end we were left with a mosh-mash quota system that never really delivered, like the South African cricket team. You can't deny that Gem never hit these heights though: Andy was a great songwriter with Ride, it's a shame that' Carnival of Light' showed the cracks between him and Mark so obviously, and along with being forced to include selections by Sire Records for U.S. release, the releases of Definitely Maybe and Parklife that year ended music press interest in Ride, which in the pre-internet days could kill a band. Tarantula.should never have been released as it was essentially an Andy Bell solo effort under the Ride name where he attempted and failed to emulate the Definitely Maybe wall of noise, with Mark quitting the band before it's release. Andy then spent the next three years or so in Hurricane #1 trying to be Oasis before finally joining them. Hopefully now reunited with Ride he can follow his own musical path once more. |
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