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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2016 4:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Mar 3, 2016 4:51:33 GMT -5
Well, what about Jake Bugg's last album? Now that's pretty crap, innit? He's got a new album out in June so he needs some big headlines. As I've said in another thread, his music does nothing for me, I find it very dull. His second album was much worse than his debut by the way, which at least had a couple of redeemable qualities.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 3, 2016 4:52:24 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, no taste, that boy. Also, his own album is crap, mostly. And he didn't even write most of that himself.
He does have a point though, when he says Noel slags off everyone and then becomes friendly with them (Elton John is another one that jumps to mind)
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Mar 3, 2016 6:05:05 GMT -5
Haha hahahahaha hahahahaha
Oh Jake Kennedy you jumped up fake manufactured little shit. You are just a grumpy Matt Cardle. And no matter how hard you try slagging Noel off, you are not Noel and we know it kills you Jake. Proceed with your pedestrian music. You'll sink into obscurity before long.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 3, 2016 6:28:54 GMT -5
I'm sure Noel won't sleep at night because of that now
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 3, 2016 7:06:56 GMT -5
In my house we squash bugs.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 3, 2016 7:09:07 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on Mar 3, 2016 7:32:25 GMT -5
Oh, the old slagging tactic to get some press. Never gets old, always works.
Noel knows.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 3, 2016 7:46:37 GMT -5
He makes a fair point about Noel's behaviour - I do think some of the stuff he gets up to when he's got record or a tour to promote, is pretty shitty - but Chasing Yesterday is a really solid album.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 3, 2016 7:48:35 GMT -5
Oh, the old slagging tactic to get some press. Never gets old, always works. Noel knows. You actually believe that?
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Post by andymorris on Mar 3, 2016 7:58:39 GMT -5
Oh, the old slagging tactic to get some press. Never gets old, always works. Noel knows. You actually believe that? You actually don't believe that ? An artist dissing another artist in the press is the #1 tactic in the book, Music Marketing 101. Have you not followed the music press of the last 40 years ?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 3, 2016 8:04:13 GMT -5
He makes a fair point about Noel's behaviour - I do think some of the stuff he gets up to when he's got record or a tour to promote, is pretty shitty - but Chasing Yesterday is a really solid album. To be honest I'm convinced Noel' like that in private too,in terms of saying stuff just to have fun and get a reaction,which doesn't take anything away from the fact that he knows pretty well how to use the press in his favour
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Post by matt on Mar 3, 2016 8:53:32 GMT -5
A tired cliched robot. He's as manufactured as Beyonce and all those other talentless arseholes. Chasing Yesterday, at worst, is solid if unspectacular (thanks to some old tired rehashed songs desperately wanting to be Defintley Maybe ruining the album).
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 3, 2016 9:34:12 GMT -5
A tired cliched robot. He's as manufactured as Beyonce and all those other talentless arseholes. Chasing Yesterday, at worst, is solid if unspectacular (thanks to some old tired rehashed songs desperately wanting to be Defintley Maybe ruining the album). This is his first radio performance for bbc introducing (so was not signed / he had just uploaded his songs and got picked to go on) obv playing only songs he's wrote himself. While not everyone cup of tea via genre/style etc (not really mine tho i did enjoy debut and he was great live) i think shows talent for a 16 year old The mind boggles that cos he had some help (when he was 18/19) co writing 2 albums he's a talentless cliched robot arsehole, now at the old age of 22 he's got album 3 out which is fully self written.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 3, 2016 10:34:01 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, no taste, that boy. Also, his own album is crap, mostly. And he didn't even write most of that himself. He does have a point though, when he says Noel slags off everyone and then becomes friendly with them (Elton John is another one that jumps to mind) Thing is, Noel never slagged off Ed Sheeran. He stated quite a few times after that the NME just put the headline up "i dont want to live in a world where Ed Sheeran plays Wembley Stadium". Noel said that he is a good lad etc and nothing bas was meant by any of it. I remember when Jake Bugg was first trying to make it big (i live in Nottingham) and he relied heavily on the support of Noel even from the age of about 14. Talk about biting the hand the feeds you. The problem with Jake Bugg is he is very false. He come out to the masses as this cool indie kid who picked up a guitar and wrote all these songs and quite publiclay ripped into the manufactured artists like One Direction for not writing their own songs. He then come out with a very uninspired second album that relied on the support of others for songwriting. Now he is very touchy feely about people bringing that up. Was what Noel said really bad enough to warrant a response like that? Given all the backing Noel has given him in the past too? This isnt just a case of an artist responding to Noel calling them shit, im sure we would all hold our hands up if it was. I cannot see the lad lasting much longer, another nail in the coffin for Bugg.
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Post by shoreline on Mar 3, 2016 10:51:40 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, no taste, that boy. Also, his own album is crap, mostly. And he didn't even write most of that himself. His first album is perhaps on my top ten list of all time. The consistency and quality of the songs on that album in unbeliveable. Barely a weak track at all. I'd call it a classic. I've seen him live two times, and he blew me away both times with his vocal capabilities and guitar skills. And while he doesn't write all of his songs himself, Country song, Someplace, Saffron, Fire, Someone told me, Something Wrong, Me and You, Kingpin, Love Me the Way You Do, Kitchen Table and All Your Reasons are all written solely by him. And like I've said in another tread earlier: if it was Noel and not Jake Bugg, those co-writers would've just been given producer credits. At least Bugg is modest enough to give them credit for their advice and input. This is was a talented teenager who just needed some extra advice. One can't deny that he probably wouldn't have had exactly the same big success straight away as he has experienced if it was just him writing and doing everything by himself, but there's no doubt that the guy has big talent. Most songwriters would give a lot to be able to write songs such as Someone Told Me, Me And You and All Your Reasons. Here's Me and You, which he wrote all by himself: And while co-written: check out the guitar skills from 2:40 on this one:
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Post by Ross on Mar 3, 2016 10:57:30 GMT -5
A tired cliched robot. He's as manufactured as Beyonce and all those other talentless arseholes. Chasing Yesterday, at worst, is solid if unspectacular (thanks to some old tired rehashed songs desperately wanting to be Defintley Maybe ruining the album). There is nothing wrong with Beyonce.
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Post by Regi on Mar 3, 2016 11:21:53 GMT -5
Not a fan of the lad, but he's spot on about Noel's album to be fair. It is very poor.
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Post by mememe26 on Mar 3, 2016 13:15:00 GMT -5
He makes a fair point about Noel's behaviour - I do think some of the stuff he gets up to when he's got record or a tour to promote, is pretty shitty - but Chasing Yesterday is a really solid album. You say it like he's goin' out his way to slag bands as he has an album to promote. He obviously only ever does interviews when he's got an album to promote, I'm sure if he had fuck all albums to promote & got interviewed he'd still slag bands off.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 3, 2016 13:40:19 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, no taste, that boy. Also, his own album is crap, mostly. And he didn't even write most of that himself. He does have a point though, when he says Noel slags off everyone and then becomes friendly with them (Elton John is another one that jumps to mind) Thing is, Noel never slagged off Ed Sheeran. He stated quite a few times after that the NME just put the headline up "i dont want to live in a world where Ed Sheeran plays Wembley Stadium". Noel said that he is a good lad etc and nothing bas was meant by any of it. I remember when Jake Bugg was first trying to make it big (i live in Nottingham) and he relied heavily on the support of Noel even from the age of about 14. Talk about biting the hand the feeds you. The problem with Jake Bugg is he is very false. He come out to the masses as this cool indie kid who picked up a guitar and wrote all these songs and quite publiclay ripped into the manufactured artists like One Direction for not writing their own songs. He then come out with a very uninspired second album that relied on the support of others for songwriting. Now he is very touchy feely about people bringing that up. Was what Noel said really bad enough to warrant a response like that? Given all the backing Noel has given him in the past too? This isnt just a case of an artist responding to Noel calling them shit, im sure we would all hold our hands up if it was.I cannot see the lad lasting much longer, another nail in the coffin for Bugg. This is a fair point to make. I thought being asked to tour through America with the two established acts, even if one was snore patrol, was a nice break for him. It got him venues he wouldn't have played without such a tour. Noel really went to bat for him, and I could see him feeling a bit duped by Bugg. It adds another dimension really. I think we could all be on Bugg's side if it was, Noel per usual, slagging off a younger act without offering much in the way of help. But Bugg was pushed by a lot of the older guard so to speak, and it does come off as biting the hand that fed you.
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Post by lavan1984 on Mar 3, 2016 13:42:50 GMT -5
Bugg is one talented lad, deserves every bit of success he gets, but shouldn't slag Noel. Noel took him on tour and got him a name in America, he should be eternally grateful for that.
Chasing Yesterday blatantly isn't shit, it's a bang on 9/10 album, but then again, Jake Buggs albums certainly aren't far behind!! The song 'Me & You' is a masterpiece! Quality guitar player too.
I hope this doesn't get silly, because both artists deserve immense respect despite a couple of Jakes songs being co-written!
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 3, 2016 13:51:10 GMT -5
Not a fan of the lad, but he's spot on about Noel's album to be fair. It is very poor.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 3, 2016 13:56:41 GMT -5
how do we not know noel telt jake bugg to say this about him it gives them both publicity
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 3, 2016 14:05:05 GMT -5
Thing is, Noel never slagged off Ed Sheeran. He stated quite a few times after that the NME just put the headline up "i dont want to live in a world where Ed Sheeran plays Wembley Stadium". Noel said that he is a good lad etc and nothing bas was meant by any of it. I remember when Jake Bugg was first trying to make it big (i live in Nottingham) and he relied heavily on the support of Noel even from the age of about 14. Talk about biting the hand the feeds you. The problem with Jake Bugg is he is very false. He come out to the masses as this cool indie kid who picked up a guitar and wrote all these songs and quite publiclay ripped into the manufactured artists like One Direction for not writing their own songs. He then come out with a very uninspired second album that relied on the support of others for songwriting. Now he is very touchy feely about people bringing that up. Was what Noel said really bad enough to warrant a response like that? Given all the backing Noel has given him in the past too? This isnt just a case of an artist responding to Noel calling them shit, im sure we would all hold our hands up if it was.I cannot see the lad lasting much longer, another nail in the coffin for Bugg. This is a fair point to make. I thought being asked to tour through America with the two established acts, even if one was snore patrol, was a nice break for him. It got him venues he wouldn't have played without such a tour. Noel really went to bat for him, and I could see him feeling a bit duped by Bugg. It adds another dimension really. I think we could all be on Bugg's side if it was, Noel per usual, slagging off a younger act without offering much in the way of help. But Bugg was pushed by a lot of the older guard so to speak, and it does come off as biting the hand that fed you. well if it was anything to do with him? maybe it was snore patrols descision? didnt they headline everynight? even if they didnt why would it be noels decision? how has noel gone to bat / pushed him? At the end of the day he hasn't called noel a cocksucker or whatever noels fav saying is at the mo he just said basically he doesnt like his new album and is 2 faced which think even some of his fans can appreciate him being
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Post by spaneli on Mar 3, 2016 14:25:17 GMT -5
This is a fair point to make. I thought being asked to tour through America with the two established acts, even if one was snore patrol, was a nice break for him. It got him venues he wouldn't have played without such a tour. Noel really went to bat for him, and I could see him feeling a bit duped by Bugg. It adds another dimension really. I think we could all be on Bugg's side if it was, Noel per usual, slagging off a younger act without offering much in the way of help. But Bugg was pushed by a lot of the older guard so to speak, and it does come off as biting the hand that fed you. well if it was anything to do with him? maybe it was snore patrols descision? didnt they headline everynight? even if they didnt why would it be noels decision? how has noel gone to bat / pushed him? At the end of the day he hasn't called noel a cocksucker or whatever noels fav saying is at the mo he just said basically he doesnt like his new album and is 2 faced which think even some of his fans can appreciate him being True. A bit of it is just me saying that 1+1 might equal 2 Noel was such a massive fan of Jake Bugg at the time, it would be kind of surprising if it wasn't partly Noel's decision, and I've never heard Snore Patrol speak highly of him. In the end, they could have chosen a ton of opening acts, but Bugg was chosen. And I would agree he hasn't gone as far as Noel in use of "adjectives," so to speak. Which does say a lot toward Noel's willingness to use such phrases.
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