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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 9:10:19 GMT -5
I'm not even sure that I ever properly bought this album. I went to two shows though, so Noel got his money out of me either way.
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Post by andymorris on Mar 3, 2016 12:03:37 GMT -5
1 year on:
- Album cover still shit
- Mighty I still shit
- That other single, the first one, still shit
- Collection of tunes more than a cohesive record
- waisted opportunities : still waiting for good recordings of Freaky Teeth and Revolution Song.
but still some standout tracks for an artist producing 10 to 15 songs alone every three years for the last 22 years.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 3, 2016 12:59:47 GMT -5
The instrumentation is better and it is more ambitious.
I still like Riverman, In the Heat of the Moment, The Right Stuff, While the Song Remains the Same, and Ballad of the Might I.
However, I have come to loath Lock all the Doors, while I could take or leave, mostly leave, the Mexican and You know We Can't Go Back. The Dying of the Light would be compelling if I hadn't heard it a million times before in the form of other far superior Noel tunes. I was never very enamored with the demo for Dying of the Light, it sounded to me as it does now, Noel by the numbers.
The lyrics for the most on this album part are dreadful, even for Noel standards, especially Lock all the Doors, the Mexican, and the Right Stuff (great music let down by poor lyrics).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 14:57:32 GMT -5
I still think that Revolution Song could have been a much better song than the version that is on the deluxe version.
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Post by gemarcher1 on Mar 3, 2016 15:26:44 GMT -5
This record piss over Jake Bugg and Beady Eye.
Love it.
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Post by Adam on Mar 3, 2016 15:29:42 GMT -5
I went to NYC when it had just come out and listened to it repeatedly. Whenever I revisit the album it acts as a superb soundtrack to a fantastic holiday.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 3, 2016 17:57:54 GMT -5
One year later, The Mexican is still a fucking badass tune. Shamelessly OTT, catchy as hell, and simply awesome. Makes me wonder if the haters are listening to the same song as I am.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 3, 2016 18:35:47 GMT -5
Still a cool album. Jake Bugg you're a fucking loser, get over it
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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2016 18:45:23 GMT -5
People describe CY as fresh, but I'm pretty sure Noel doesn't shop at Modell's.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 3, 2016 18:48:31 GMT -5
People describe CY as fresh, but I'm pretty sure Noel doesn't shop at Modell's. You sure mossy ? He's shopped for England from about 1995 to date all around the world   |
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Post by carlober on Mar 4, 2016 4:45:53 GMT -5
One year later, The Mexican is still a fucking badass tune. Shamelessly OTT, catchy as hell, and simply awesome. Makes me wonder if the haters are listening to the same song as I am. I like it too! Its only problem are some shit lyrics, but the tune is solid and very enjoyable. It gets even better during live performances! |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 6, 2016 15:50:43 GMT -5
A solid album.
But it seems with both Noel albums so far, the common perception, at least on this forum gets worse and worse as time goes on.
With the first album i think there was a need for it to be better than Beady Eye (shoot me down if you like for that opinion) so there was an air of OTT opinions about the album as a whole. While i think it was better than DGSS, it seemed like people wanted it to be so much that it was getting 9/10, 10/10 ratings. Songs like If I Had A Gun and Everybodys on the Run went from great classics to poorly produced, souless Sardy songs. The common perception was its a solid 6 or 7 by the time CY come out.
With Chasing Yesterday all of the circus had died down and there was no need for comparisons anymore. I think it is still an album where Noel doesn't push himself. He is still going through the motions and doing what he thinks will be a success, rather than making the album i genuinely think he wants to make. I think he targets a song he thinks will sell the album, and then fills the effort with songs like The Mexican and Girl With x-ray eyes that are fine fillers but never give us the true capability of Noel.
You Know We Can't Go Back is still one of the first times i've genuinely had that wow moment from a Noel song, possibly since i first got into Oasis and discovered that superb catalogue of songs. It has that magic of 1997 Oasis and that anthemic punch the air feeling, alongside most importantly a genuine message (something i feel Noel songs have lacked maybe as far back as 1994 when he really had something to say).
On the whole he can do better, and i think he will do better as time goes on. I think it will take a drop in sales and a moment where he doesn't have to be the successful media friendly rock star to really get him to throw the kitchen sink at it and produce something he really has in him.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 6, 2016 15:53:21 GMT -5
I still think it's fucking brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 16:07:34 GMT -5
A solid album. But it seems with both Noel albums so far, the common perception, at least on this forum gets worse and worse as time goes on. With the first album i think there was a need for it to be better than Beady Eye (shoot me down if you like for that opinion) so there was an air of OTT opinions about the album as a whole. While i think it was better than DGSS, it seemed like people wanted it to be so much that it was getting 9/10, 10/10 ratings. Songs like If I Had A Gun and Everybodys on the Run went from great classics to poorly produced, souless Sardy songs. The common perception was its a solid 6 or 7 by the time CY come out. With Chasing Yesterday all of the circus had died down and there was no need for comparisons anymore. I think it is still an album where Noel doesn't push himself. He is still going through the motions and doing what he thinks will be a success, rather than making the album i genuinely think he wants to make. I think he targets a song he thinks will sell the album, and then fills the effort with songs like The Mexican and Girl With x-ray eyes that are fine fillers but never give us the true capability of Noel. You Know We Can't Go Back is still one of the first times i've genuinely had that wow moment from a Noel song, possibly since i first got into Oasis and discovered that superb catalogue of songs. It has that magic of 1997 Oasis and that anthemic punch the air feeling, alongside most importantly a genuine message (something i feel Noel songs have lacked maybe as far back as 1994 when he really had something to say). On the whole he can do better, and i think he will do better as time goes on. I think it will take a drop in sales and a moment where he doesn't have to be the successful media friendly rock star to really get him to throw the kitchen sink at it and produce something he really has in him. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 6, 2016 16:30:27 GMT -5
The instrumentation is better and it is more ambitious. I still like Riverman, In the Heat of the Moment, The Right Stuff, While the Song Remains the Same, and Ballad of the Might I. However, I have come to loath Lock all the Doors, while I could take or leave, mostly leave, the Mexican and You know We Can't Go Back. The Dying of the Light would be compelling if I hadn't heard it a million times before in the form of other far superior Noel tunes. I was never very enamored with the demo for Dying of the Light, it sounded to me as it does now, Noel by the numbers. The lyrics for the most on this album part are dreadful, even for Noel standards, especially Lock all the Doors, the Mexican, and the Right Stuff (great music let down by poor lyrics). Like you read my mind... |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 6, 2016 16:41:50 GMT -5
I find it slightly odd how people say it's an album where Noel uses the same tricks and is un-ambitious, yet refer to the most generic/unoriginal stuff on it as "great", "fantastic", or "wow".
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Post by feathercut on Mar 6, 2016 17:30:28 GMT -5
CY beats the first solo album ever so slightly for me on general quality as the debut is very front loaded and really tails off for me at the arse end. Couple that with CYs far superior production and clean/crisp finish its actually quite a clear winner.
Sardy's stuff sounds to me like I'm listening to music that's playing outside a glass box. If Noel did his same CY production to the debut it could have been stunning at the front end.
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Post by anais on Mar 6, 2016 17:53:45 GMT -5
better than debute. the only song i dont like much is the mexican. the best for me is the right stuff, i hope next time he is even more brave and go to more experimental waters as with this one... but overall it is still great album. and really the best since sotsog.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 6, 2016 19:27:10 GMT -5
Don't you just love people who state their opinion as fact...
Because it is generic to you, doesn't mean it is generic.
God bless. x
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Post by Jim G. on Mar 6, 2016 20:17:49 GMT -5
it's interesting to me that, after one year, i have an opinion way more clear of the record than I did when it came out. i guess we wait so long for releases and have so many expectations that when it finally comes out, we can't see clearly what's going on.
for me CY is a far better record than Noel's debut. it's more sophisticated and definitely bolder than HFB. actually, the only songs I don't like as much are the most generic or familiar, like YKWCGB or LATD.
with that said, Noel's first has an affectionate memory to me (if that makes any sense). whenever I listen to that, I remember one of the best years of my life.
all in all, I think our Noel is on an interesting direction when it comes to his solo career.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 20:24:50 GMT -5
I still think that Revolution Song could have been a much better song than the version that is on the deluxe version. i've heard this so many times but it's funny, personally i really dig the chasing yesterday version. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 20:30:16 GMT -5
i can't believe it's already been a year! still sounds so fresh to my ears, what a great album. so much better than hfb's 1 (only my opinion).
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 7, 2016 0:24:35 GMT -5
Don't you just love people who state their opinion as fact... Because it is generic to you, doesn't mean it is generic. God bless. x Exactly.  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 7, 2016 2:11:12 GMT -5
I still think that Revolution Song could have been a much better song than the version that is on the deluxe version. i've heard this so many times but it's funny, personally i really dig the chasing yesterday version. I miss the guitarsolo. It really feels like it's lacking something, but maybe I was just used too much to the guitarsolo. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Mar 8, 2016 12:58:37 GMT -5
^Agreed, although we really got treated with the amount of solos on CY, and pretty much all of them are great.
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