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Post by Ross on Feb 24, 2016 13:56:50 GMT -5
Why do so many people think Johnny Marr is a bad/mediocre singer? He might not be Morrissey, but his singing is absolutely fine to me. Probably because he is a mediocre singer. There is a significant difference between bad and mediocre. |
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Post by kingcrawler on Feb 24, 2016 14:02:55 GMT -5
Why do so many people think Johnny Marr is a bad/mediocre singer? He might not be Morrissey, but his singing is absolutely fine to me. Admittedly I've never seen Morrissey live but from the videos I've seen of his gigs I much prefer Johnny Marr's bands covers of Smiths songs compared to Morrissey's. Obviously Marr's not as good a singer but I think the songs come across much better. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 24, 2016 14:13:13 GMT -5
Why do so many people think Johnny Marr is a bad/mediocre singer? He might not be Morrissey, but his singing is absolutely fine to me. Admittedly I've never seen Morrissey live but from the videos I've seen of his gigs I much prefer Johnny Marr's bands covers of Smiths songs compared to Morrissey's. Obviously Marr's not as good a singer but I think the songs come across much better. This. Morrissey's versions of Smiths tracks sound a bit like him singing on a karaoke backing track. Ok, maybe that's a bit harsh, but when you hear Johnny he sounds like the real deal. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 24, 2016 17:40:55 GMT -5
If you're into Verve I suggest you to check out Black Submarine, the band lead by two ex members, guitar genius Nick McCabe and drummer Simon Jones. They released an album in 2014 which has some pretty good moments.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 24, 2016 18:07:51 GMT -5
The greatest producers of all time:
1. George Martin
2. Nigel Godrich
3. Brian Wilson
4. Phil Spector
5. Brian Eno
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 24, 2016 18:17:09 GMT -5
Admittedly I've never seen Morrissey live but from the videos I've seen of his gigs I much prefer Johnny Marr's bands covers of Smiths songs compared to Morrissey's. Obviously Marr's not as good a singer but I think the songs come across much better. This. Morrissey's versions of Smiths tracks sound a bit like him singing on a karaoke backing track. Ok, maybe that's a bit harsh, but when you hear Johnny he sounds like the real deal. I actually couldn't disagree more  when he tries to sing "nothing in particular"...Morrissey makes these songs seem so effortless, with Johnny it's a visible struggle. On his albums though - at least on record - I feel like it sounds absolutely natural. I mean, it's obvious he didn't become famous for his singing skills, but I've heard much worse. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 25, 2016 6:14:03 GMT -5
This. Morrissey's versions of Smiths tracks sound a bit like him singing on a karaoke backing track. Ok, maybe that's a bit harsh, but when you hear Johnny he sounds like the real deal. I actually couldn't disagree more when he tries to sing "nothing in particular"...Morrissey makes these songs seem so effortless, with Johnny it's a visible struggle. On his albums though - at least on record - I feel like it sounds absolutely natural. I mean, it's obvious he didn't become famous for his singing skills, but I've heard much worse. Yeah, sorry, I guess I didn't explain myself properly. Morrissey totally sounds like 80's Morrissey in an effortless way The main problem with his Smiths covers lies in his band imho, which isn't really able to replicate the genuine Smiths sound... that's what I meant when I said "karaoke backing track". Johnny's singing is not as good, but the rest is spot on (guitar playing, effects, etc.) In the end I enjoy Johnny's covers a lot more than Morrissey's. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 25, 2016 12:29:56 GMT -5
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, that is really noticeable, and it really shows how brillant Johnny was with the Smiths - I doubt that Morrissey has bad musicians surrounding him, but they never ever managed to do the Smiths songs justice. It's really kinda sad that way when Morrissey does This Charming Man live, for example - they very nearly destroy the main riff.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Feb 25, 2016 12:39:56 GMT -5
Why is Iron Maiden leaking their setlist?
And I hope I don't leave early at 1349 (should be a good band)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 14:57:30 GMT -5
I was actually surprised how well johnny marr can sing the smiths songs, I was watching morrissey perform how soon is now and it wasnt great....not in his vocals but it just isnt the same with marr on guitar.
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Post by lahaine on Feb 25, 2016 20:46:33 GMT -5
Supergrass In It For The Money is one of the greatest albums of the 90's.
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Post by lahaine on Feb 25, 2016 20:51:12 GMT -5
Roxy Music's selftitled debut album - still great. Love Roxy. Roxy Music run of albums from the Debut album up to Siren in 75 are all excellent. A underrated Roxy track that deserves more love is this stand alone single between their first two albums. |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 26, 2016 1:26:28 GMT -5
Supergrass In It For The Money is one of the greatest albums of the 90's. the only problem is that it didnt had an alright or pumping on your stereo. But is a great one. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 27, 2016 0:03:56 GMT -5
I've listened to at least 8 different bands in the past week. Which, quite frankly, is way too many.
I miss the days in which I would just listen to one artist, obsessed with one of their albums, and slowly digesting the songs, rather than listening to a band's entire discography one day and another's the next. That's the proper way to enjoy any music; spend time with it so you'll begin to appreciate the small intricacies in the work, so you'll know every song inside out.
Right now, I'm really digging Verve's debut, and I'm not going to even think about listening to any other artist, or even A Northern Soul or Urban Hymns. At the moment, A Storm in Heaven is the only music on the planet. And that is how it should be.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 27, 2016 0:19:19 GMT -5
I've listened to at least 8 different bands in the past week. Which, quite frankly, is way too many. I miss the days in which I would just listen to one artist, obsessed with one of their albums, and slowly digesting the songs, rather than listening to a band's entire discography one day and another's the next. That's the proper way to enjoy any music; spend time with it so you'll begin to appreciate the small intricacies in the work, so you'll know every song inside out. Right now, I'm really digging Verve's debut, and I'm not going to even think about listening to any other artist, or even A Northern Soul or Urban Hymns. At the moment, A Storm in Heaven is the only music on the planet. And that is how it should be. Jesus never saved me He'll never save you too, and you know! Whoops, wrong album. See you in the next one, have a good one. |
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 27, 2016 0:39:24 GMT -5
I miss the days in which I would just listen to one artist, obsessed with one of their albums, and slowly digesting the songs, rather than listening to a band's entire discography one day and another's the next. That's the proper way to enjoy any music; spend time with it so you'll begin to appreciate the small intricacies in the work, so you'll know every song inside out. I agree completely. This is how I always get into new artists. |
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Post by lahaine on Feb 27, 2016 7:06:57 GMT -5
Supergrass In It For The Money is one of the greatest albums of the 90's. the only problem is that it didnt had an alright or pumping on your stereo. But is a great one. It did lack a real upbeat song although the singles from that album are some of their best. Richard III, Late In The Day, Sun Hits The Sky, Going Out and Cheapskate. Their first two albums are really classics, I loved their other albums but they do have a stinker or two on them. |
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Post by lahaine on Feb 27, 2016 7:11:44 GMT -5
Another album that I've been listening to constantly for a few weeks is ASH's Free All Angels. Got to Number 1 in the UK album charts, had some of the best singles from any band in the 2000's. Shining Light, Burn Baby Burn, Candy, Sometimes, There's A Star plus the best non single album track ever for me in Walking Barefoot, so good they put it on their first greatest hits. I love the blend of Beach Boys, Beatles, Grunge and Punk on the Album.
Underrated band to were ASH, 1977 is a great album too.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 27, 2016 8:19:28 GMT -5
I've listened to at least 8 different bands in the past week. Which, quite frankly, is way too many. I miss the days in which I would just listen to one artist, obsessed with one of their albums, and slowly digesting the songs, rather than listening to a band's entire discography one day and another's the next. That's the proper way to enjoy any music; spend time with it so you'll begin to appreciate the small intricacies in the work, so you'll know every song inside out. Right now, I'm really digging Verve's debut, and I'm not going to even think about listening to any other artist, or even A Northern Soul or Urban Hymns. At the moment, A Storm in Heaven is the only music on the planet. And that is how it should be. Jesus never saved me He'll never save you too, and you know! Whoops, wrong album. See you in the next one, have a good one. I got A Northern Soul for Christmas, took me a few weeks to get into it but I'm listening to the entire album at least once or twice a day at the moment. Such a perfect mix of their early sound and their later, more successfull stuff. Still haven't listened to Forth yet, should be good. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2016 10:11:02 GMT -5
How does Lee Mavers make money? One album from 30 years ago can't be paying the bills.
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Post by World71R on Feb 27, 2016 20:59:05 GMT -5
I've listened to at least 8 different bands in the past week. Which, quite frankly, is way too many. I miss the days in which I would just listen to one artist, obsessed with one of their albums, and slowly digesting the songs, rather than listening to a band's entire discography one day and another's the next. That's the proper way to enjoy any music; spend time with it so you'll begin to appreciate the small intricacies in the work, so you'll know every song inside out. Right now, I'm really digging Verve's debut, and I'm not going to even think about listening to any other artist, or even A Northern Soul or Urban Hymns. At the moment, A Storm in Heaven is the only music on the planet. And that is how it should be. I totally agree. I've been meaning to listening to the albums that I've acquired in the last year or so, like U2's War and Coldplay's VLV, but there is just not enough time in the day to listen to full albums, it seems, which sucks since it's hard to listen to songs on their own without first listening to the album it's on. |
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Post by glider on Feb 28, 2016 0:07:29 GMT -5
The greatest producers of all time: 1. George Martin 2. Nigel Godrich 3. Brian Wilson 4. Phil Spector5. Brian Eno The original Dave Sardy.  My top 5: 1) George Martin 2) John Leckie 3) Brian Eno 4) Daniel Lanois 5) Nigel Godrich |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 28, 2016 0:23:58 GMT -5
The greatest producers of all time: 1. George Martin 2. Nigel Godrich 3. Brian Wilson 4. Phil Spector5. Brian Eno The original Dave Sardy. My top 5: 1) George Martin 2) John Leckie 3) Brian Eno 4) Daniel Lanois 5) Nigel Godrich Wouldn't go that far, his mixes might be cluttered and dense, but they work quite well. Let's not forget that he was the among the first to experiment and innovate with new sounds and served as a huge inspiration to everyone else on my list!  |
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Post by glider on Feb 28, 2016 1:36:52 GMT -5
If you're into Verve I suggest you to check out Black Submarine, the band lead by two ex members, guitar genius Nick McCabe and drummer bassist Simon Jones. They released an album in 2014 which has some pretty good moments. Fixed  I still have to check them out. |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 28, 2016 2:10:48 GMT -5
If only...
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when he tries to sing "nothing in particular"...Morrissey makes these songs seem so effortless, with Johnny it's a visible struggle. 
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