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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 8:14:12 GMT -5
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Post by sufuking perbley on Sept 8, 2016 8:25:00 GMT -5
"Oasis members reunite for charity album". What a SENSATIONAL! title!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 8:27:15 GMT -5
I have never considered Zak anything other than a replacement fill-in member of Oasis. This articles title fails on its premise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 8:40:33 GMT -5
I have never considered Zak anything other than a replacement fill-in member of Oasis. This articles title fails on its premise. He has more albums with Oasis than Tony McCarroll though And Gem Archer is also in it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 8:43:31 GMT -5
I have never considered Zak anything other than a replacement fill-in member of Oasis. This articles title fails on its premise. He has more albums with Oasis than Tony McCarroll though And Gem Archer is also in it. I don't care. Zak never fit to me.
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 8, 2016 19:49:03 GMT -5
The Police were a great band, Sting used to be a great pop songwriter and they were one of the most original bands at the time with their reggae-rock approach which is now their trademark. I know many people in UK don't get them, but they were huge in USA and mainly in South America.
I like their albums but I like more their more atmospheric stuffs.
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Post by mkoasis on Sept 8, 2016 23:58:15 GMT -5
^^Walking on the Moon is a terrific song.
'When the Levee Breaks' was just on the radio earlier. As much as 'Stairway' is their go-to song for most people, Levee has to be their strongest tune. Yes, the root of the tune was pulled from a blues number but the 4 members of the band really turned it into something so engrossing and perfectly performed, recorded, produced, etc.
I've never been a 'greatest songs of all time' type of guy but this is definitely one.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 9, 2016 1:05:43 GMT -5
The Police were a great band, Sting used to be a great pop songwriter and they were one of the most original bands at the time with their reggae-rock approach which is now their trademark. I know many people in UK don't get them, but they were huge in USA and mainly in South America. I like their albums but I like more their more atmospheric stuffs. I really loved their first 2 albums. Listened to "Outlandos d'Amour" and "Regatta de Blanc" again and again in my teenage days. Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland are both very talented great musicians. Sting and Bono, these two are the ones I loved in my teenage years, but they let me down when they became well-known and now I can't stand them.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 9, 2016 2:02:09 GMT -5
The Police were a great band, Sting used to be a great pop songwriter and they were one of the most original bands at the time with their reggae-rock approach which is now their trademark. I know many people in UK don't get them, but they were huge in USA and mainly in South America. I like their albums but I like more their more atmospheric stuffs. They had all but their debut album go to number one in the UK, and all of their studio albums went platinum for sales of at least 300,000 so they did get a good domestic following at the time. It's a credit to Miles Copeland that he was able to sell The Police to A&M Records as a punk band, which was what their A&R department were looking to sign at the time! A friend's father whose band played with/supported them in the early days (no lasting success themselves sadly ) recalled The Police being rather surprised by their "mixed race reggae band" (his own description) sound as Sting & Co. genuinely appeared to believe they had stumbled across a new sound regarding guitar style, drum patterns, etc.!
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 9, 2016 13:02:18 GMT -5
Also I don't think that The Police created that especific sound, but they popularized it, it became their trademark sound in the end.
On the first Police album, Outlandos D'Amour, there were some punk songs like Peanuts, but they did it just to get signed, however on their next album, Regatta de Blanc, it shows best their more reggae-rock signature sound.
The third one, Zenyatta Mondatta, is my favourite, but it isn't perfect, it's similar to Oasis DOYS, in the way that the first 7 tracks are all great, but then the last four tracks are very weak, the album was rushed, so we have unfinished tracks and three instrumentals.
Ghost in the Machine was their most experimental one with brass and synthesizers, also it was their weakest, too many fillers on it.
Synchronicity, the last one, was an amazing album, Sting wrote a perfect set of songs, the second side comprised only of worldwide hits, but then the contributions by the other members ruined the album a bit, Copeland wrote the throwaway Miss Gradenko and Summers wrote the odd Mother, one of the most obnoxious songs you will ever heard, in the end Synchronicity was an almost perfect album.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 13:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 9, 2016 13:51:26 GMT -5
My favorite Police song was always Can't Stand Losing You off their first one. Hilarious!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 9, 2016 14:43:28 GMT -5
My favorite Police song was always Can't Stand Losing You off their first one. Hilarious! John Bonham once sang that on stage at an awards ceremony drunk IIRC, apparently he was furious The Police hadn't won the category! He also threatened to stamp on Sting's head backstage at a gig he had taken his son to on the Regetta de Blanc tour so as always Bonzo had a split personality about something
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 9, 2016 15:41:53 GMT -5
I think it's very much the sound of a man who's very comfortable socially, economically, domestically and all that - but comfortable creatively, as well. Which, as they say, you should never be. I'm not sure that that superstition holds quite so much weight with Divine Comedy records as it does conventional rock bands, what with the kind of records Neil makes being suited to keeping things quite straight anyway, but it definitely does seem like he's reached his 70s Lennon (2010s Noel, even?) period now - in that he's comfortable in his own skin and doesn't feel any great inkling to shake things up. Like Lennon (and Noel), I'm sure that comes from him being loved-up now: this record is not only the most 'loved-up' Divine Comedy I've heard, but possibly the most loved-up record I've EVER heard. From anyone. And sometimes I think that works really well (when he sings "Everybody thinks it's all lies, until they can see Foreverland" on the title track, for instance, is really quite lovely, and of course, he gets to wring out some of that customary self-deprecating wit on How Can You Leave Me On My Own), but sometimes it also sounds a bit self-congratulatory and, dare I say it, even boastful, on songs like The Pact and The One Who Loves You. And I swear that's not just grouchy old, chronically single me talking. I'm actually really glad he's found love and is in a happy place (no pun intended) now; he seems a nice man with a gentle soul, so he deserves every scrap of happiness he can find. But I would be lying if I said I didn't want to hear the tortured Hannon of Note To Self again. Or the downright weird Hannon of If... and A Woman of the World. To conclude... even though all that above sounds very negative, I do actually like the record. It's a collection of mostly great songs (that run of songs from How Can You Leave Me to A Desperate Man, I absolutely adore!), and I guess that's all you can hope for from someone so far into their career. It is slightly disappointing there isn't a moment of undisputed brilliance on there - like a Down In The Street Below or a A Lady Of A Certain Age - and, from a personal perspective, I would like to see him work with a professional producer again (maybe if it's true what people say, that A Moon Shaped Pool will be Radiohead's last, we could see Nigel Godrich come back for the next one...), but mostly, I'm quite pleased with it. I'd score it a 7 out of 10. What about you?
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Post by carlober on Sept 9, 2016 15:53:05 GMT -5
This song sounds like swimming through dense, melted honey.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 9, 2016 16:21:10 GMT -5
This song sounds like swimming through dense, melted honey. YES!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 16:24:03 GMT -5
I think it's very much the sound of a man who's very comfortable socially, economically, domestically and all that - but comfortable creatively, as well. Which, as they say, you should never be. I'm not sure that that superstition holds quite so much weight with Divine Comedy records as it does conventional rock bands, what with the kind of records Neil makes being suited to keeping things quite straight anyway, but it definitely does seem like he's reached his 70s Lennon (2010s Noel, even?) period now - in that he's comfortable in his own skin and doesn't feel any great inkling to shake things up. Like Lennon (and Noel), I'm sure that comes from him being loved-up now: this record is not only the most 'loved-up' Divine Comedy I've heard, but possibly the most loved-up record I've EVER heard. From anyone. And sometimes I think that works really well (when he sings "Everybody thinks it's all lies, until they can see Foreverland" on the title track, for instance, is really quite lovely, and of course, he gets to wring out some of that customary self-deprecating wit on How Can You Leave Me On My Own), but sometimes it also sounds a bit self-congratulatory and, dare I say it, even boastful, on songs like The Pact and The One Who Loves You. And I swear that's not just grouchy old, chronically single me talking. I'm actually really glad he's found love and is in a happy place (no pun intended) now; he seems a nice man with a gentle soul, so he deserves every scrap of happiness he can find. But I would be lying if I said I didn't want to hear the tortured Hannon of Note To Self again. Or the downright weird Hannon of If... and A Woman of the World. To conclude... even though all that above sounds very negative, I do actually like the record. It's a collection of mostly great songs (that run of songs from How Can You Leave Me to A Desperate Man, I absolutely adore!), and I guess that's all you can hope for from someone so far into their career. It is slightly disappointing there isn't a moment of undisputed brilliance on there - like a Down In The Street Below or a A Lady Of A Certain Age - and, from a personal perspective, I would like to see him work with a professional producer again (maybe if it's true what people say, that A Moon Shaped Pool will be Radiohead's last, we could see Nigel Godrich come back for the next one...), but mostly, I'm quite pleased with it. I'd score it a 7 out of 10. What about you? My thoughts on this would be rather close to yours. I've listened to the record two times, and I've liked it. I was just wanting for maybe a bit more. As you said, there isn't an amazing song on there (A Lady Of A Certain Age is still his best song ever, imo), a song that makes you think "that's it !". My favorites at the moment are The Pact and Foreverland. The thing with Neil is that you can never say he's disappointing, because objectively he never did make a single shite album !(I'd give all the albums I've heard from him a mark between 7 and 8,5 out of 10). And that's quite an accomplishment for a songwriter. To take an example, he never went where B&S went, realeasing ,now, crap (I don't remember if you're familiar with them, but if not, I'm sure you'd love their first 3 albums !). And knowing that, you can't feel anything else than a bit frustrated, thinking that Hannon could do better. I'd give it a 7/10 me too. It's a good album, another one from The Divine Comedy. And good albums like that are getting more rare these days. The "loved-up" vibes appealed to me, as it's fitting my mood a bit. Now, the problem is that I still don't know what's my favourite album of the year Still 3 months to see !
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Post by asimarx on Sept 9, 2016 16:40:15 GMT -5
This song sounds like swimming through dense, melted honey. The most beautiful song (and sound) ever made by anyone, at least in my little world. Usually I try to avoid listening to it, so the experience doesn't wear off. Astonishing tune.
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Post by matt on Sept 9, 2016 18:01:04 GMT -5
Karen Carpenter is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Seriously.
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Post by World71R on Sept 9, 2016 21:05:59 GMT -5
Karen Carpenter is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Seriously. Speaking of which, I love her voice. It's so silky smooth, calm, and beautiful. She is someone the World lost way too soon.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 10, 2016 0:15:52 GMT -5
Karen Carpenter is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Seriously. Speaking of which, I love her voice. It's so silky smooth, calm, and beautiful. She is someone the World lost way too soon. She's definitely one of my favourite female vocalists.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 10, 2016 2:08:51 GMT -5
Rabbits featuring James Graham (The Twilight Sad)
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 10, 2016 4:36:28 GMT -5
Karen Carpenter is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Seriously. A lot of the drumming on their records was actually by legendary Wrecking Crew and jazz trained drummer Hal Blaine, who was also on countless records with (one of my all time favourite bassists) Carol Kaye including The Beach Boys, The Monkees and a whole host of classic 1960's and 1970's releases- The Wrecking Crew (Wiki)
Hal spoke in a 2012 interview about why Karen didn't play on those sessions, as well as how advising Karen to lower her singing by three keys and just how problematic and pushy Karen and Richard's parents were as despite Karen's vocal talent her parents were insistent that Richard was the star- Jazzwax May 2012
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 6:22:26 GMT -5
Rabbits featuring James Graham (The Twilight Sad) There are lots of similar bands/songs in tv show Chuck. That's also the show that introduced me to Oasis
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 10, 2016 11:12:45 GMT -5
Karen Carpenter is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Seriously. A lot of the drumming on their records was actually by legendary Wrecking Crew and jazz trained drummer Hal Blaine, who was also on countless records with (one of my all time favourite bassists) Carol Kaye including The Beach Boys, The Monkees and a whole host of classic 1960's and 1970's releases- The Wrecking Crew (Wiki)
Hal spoke in a 2012 interview about why Karen didn't play on those sessions, as well as how advising Karen to lower her singing by three keys and just how problematic and pushy Karen and Richard's parents were as despite Karen's vocal talent her parents were insistent that Richard was the star- Jazzwax May 2012
Had no idea the Wrecking Crew played on so much of the Carpenters' stuff! Could have known, as they played on so much stuff by so many artists at that time. Hal Blaine is obviously great.
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