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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 28, 2016 4:47:17 GMT -5
Still great.
"You've got more halos than Simon Templar
You've said more Betty's than Frankie Spencer
Your gun is bigger than Captain Scarlet's
Your face is covered in cheap mascara"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 8:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 28, 2016 11:59:39 GMT -5
"You've got more halos than Simon Templar "You've said more Betty's than Frankie Spencer"  |
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Post by joladella on Aug 29, 2016 6:54:49 GMT -5
I have just bought myself a ticket for Life of Agony in Vienna in November. I've loved them kind of forever, but never seen them life, as there was a time when I stupidly thought I was over going to concerts. But now I get a chance! Yes, yes and even more yes!
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 29, 2016 6:57:02 GMT -5
Massive Attack are pretty fucking awesome. Loving Mezzanine...
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2016 7:41:13 GMT -5
Worst decision of the week: starting to follow the "discussions" on morrissey-solo. There a a couple of really miserable people on there who seemingly hate everything about moz. That's okay, but why go on a FAN forum then? Seriously, live4ever is heaven compared to that. Only thing I will never agree with Morrissey on is PETA, other than that love the music and always up for discussion  What do you think about him saying Nigel Farage's views are "quite logical", and that he nearly voted UKIP a few years ago? |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 29, 2016 8:06:16 GMT -5
Only thing I will never agree with Morrissey on is PETA, other than that love the music and always up for discussion What do you think about him saying Nigel Farage's views are "quite logical", and that he nearly voted UKIP a few years ago? When I said one thing I was referring specifically to his PETA supporting stance, I am sure in conversation there is a fair amount I would probably disagree with the man on! I think if he was referring to the areas of the EU such as TTIP negotiations without public information and consultation then that is logical, but with the reported collapse of those negotiations (hopefully!) that becomes a moot point. On a side note my own concern now is that with the UK organising a withdrawal from the EU TTIP or a similarly worded pact with the USA could still be a reality here. The remainder of his (Farage) views were based as far as I could tell entirely on immigration and were deeply flawed for a number of reasons, mostly being that rather than address integration in general and overwhelming economic migration when there are little or no opportunities, he was essentially calling for a blanket ban which would be the only real time in modern history that such ridiculous measures would have been implemented. As to any possible deportations let us for a moment assume that it was going to happen- where on earth do you start? All foreign born prisoners? Well do we include their families British or otherwise as well? How about going even further and saying all Muslims irrespective of nationality, just to be safe? The deeper you look into some aspects of UKIP hardliners the easier it becomes to pick apart their arguments in regards to such blanket/knee jerk approaches. One thing I will say on ex-pats both celebrities and otherwise is bluntly what currently do British politics have to do with you, seeing as you live comfortably elsewhere and will not be affected either way? Whether it is Benedict Cumberbatch lecturing from a stage on racial prejudice whilst having come from a wealthy family trust background built on Barbados slavery, or Morrissey praising aspects of UKIP, both from the comfort of affluent areas of Los Angeles I find irritating as the outcomes often have no direct impact on their own lives, and I find it equally tiresome that because one is a successful actor or musician that their views should (in the minds of some and their fans) carry more weight than other people's views. Hopefully that answers the question, for clarification UKIP have never entered my radar as a credible party worthy of a vote so that's my personal stance. On another subject have you got into any other Neil Young albums since the ones you picked up after our previous exchange on him?  |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 29, 2016 10:03:26 GMT -5
What do you think about him saying Nigel Farage's views are "quite logical", and that he nearly voted UKIP a few years ago? On another subject have you got into any other Neil Young albums since the ones you picked up after our previous exchange on him? Ah right, thanks for clearing that up. You had me worried for a minute there, guigs! --- RE Neil Young... I went a bit hysterical, not long after you suggested those first three albums of his (After the Gold Rush, Harvest, and On the Beach), and I now own 11 of his record in full. Excluding the three already mentioned, they are: Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere Tonight's the Night Zuma Comes a Time Rust Never Sleeps Freedom Ragged Glory Harvest Moon I think it all started when I put After the Gold Rush on for the first time. Before that, I'd listened to Harvest and enjoyed it immensely, but the nature of that album being quite a stripped back (well, for the most part), melancholic affair, coupled with me being aware some people quite like pitting Neil against Bob Dylan, I thought, 'Oh I know where I stand here'. Then I heard him rocking on Southern Man and thought to myself, 'Ah! so there's more to the picture than meets the eye...' (I didn't really, but the chance'd be a fine thing, wouldn't it?). And then, once I'd realised Neil's voice was not only utterly distinctive, but actually quite lovely at times, once you got used to it, I feverishly sought out On the Beach. Now, as you know (in fact, I think you mentioned it when you recommended the album to me), that record is such a stark and beautiful piece of work anyway, that when I heard Neil's wonderful voice singing lines like "I need a crowd of people, / But I can't face them day to day", over the top, I knew I'd had it then. There was no going back from there. So I snapped up his next best reviewed, Everybody Knows... and Tonight's the Night, and it just grew from there. I'm not really au fait with any of the records from Comes a Time downwards, yet, but I'm sure all the train journeys I'll be making to and from Manchester, come next month, will sort that out. --- On a slightly serious (or maybe just paranoid) note, it is strange how easily you can part with your money when you're buying online. I'm not particularly tight with money - after all, why should I be? I'm not working for any of it yet - but even still, I look at my invoice emails from iTunes sometimes and think, 'christ, did I really spend all that?' And that was the case here with the Neil Young albums. I bought them because I'd heard they were good and because I could, but if this was 10 years ago, and I was rooting through the shelves of HMV, no way would I have bought 11 of the things. What would be the fucking point? It's not possible to take in such a volume of music all at once. I'd've just taken one away, and if I'd liked that, I could always have gone back a week later to try another out. I guess what I'm saying is sometimes I forget I'm supposed to be appreciating an art form, and just treat records like any old consumer products. And when you're online, it's quite easy to forget, when you're buying products, that you're spending any money at all, when you can't actually see the money there (or not there) in front of you. Now, I'm being careful not to come across like our 'upper-middle class" friend Dan Lucas, here, with all this "back in the old days" nonsense, but d'you know where I'm coming from here? Just the other day, I put R.E.M's Automatic for the People on, and by the time I'd got to The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite, I was already on AllMusic, rooting out their next best reviewed album to buy. And if it wasn't for them all being about £11 on iTunes, I know I would've done... despite me still being right into my Neil Young stuff... |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 29, 2016 10:58:57 GMT -5
theyknowwhatimean Happy to clarify anything I say at any time With regards to iTunes, etc. I think one of the perhaps negative factors is the ease of convenience, which from a business point of view is ideal but for a consumer it is very easy to click a repeat credit/debit card set up and make multiple purchases before they realise how much they have actually spent. The advantage of a physical copy is that it took time to either go and buy it or wait for it to be delivered, hence you were perhaps more inclined to listen to it in it's entirety before contemplating another purchase. The flip side to that for balance is in the pre-internet days record companies and retailers could set very high prices in a cartel like manner with illegal taping being the only real alternative. With the current technology you can sample most albums or songs before you buy, as opposed to the long gone HMV listening posts that only had big selling or label paid for records on them! I think ultimately it is like all progression, it comes with negatives and positives- The positives we retain until we replace them with something even better and the negatives we try and correct or replace wherever possible. I'd like to think I apply that to my business and personal lives, as well as politically as well!
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 29, 2016 13:55:00 GMT -5
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 29, 2016 17:09:48 GMT -5
I love this Doors song, wonderfull.
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Post by mkoasis on Aug 29, 2016 20:09:35 GMT -5
And then, once I'd realised Neil's voice was not only utterly distinctive, but actually quite lovely at times, once you got used to it, I feverishly sought out On the Beach. Now, as you know (in fact, I think you mentioned it when you recommended the album to me), that record is such a stark and beautiful piece of work anyway, that when I heard Neil's wonderful voice singing lines like "I need a crowd of people, / But I can't face them day to day", over the top, I knew I'd had it then. There was no going back from there. So I snapped up his next best reviewed, Everybody Knows... and Tonight's the Night, and it just grew from there. Really glad to hear you're enjoying Neil Young. He's one of my top favourites and a hometown hero. It's quite difficult to make a list of top Neil Young songs or albums but, after much thought, here it is - a mix of purely best of and personal favourites Albums
Rust Never Sleeps Tonight's the Night After the Goldrush Prairie Wind Greendale Silver and Gold On the beach Everybody knows this is Nowhere Freedom Ragged Glory and Harvest Moon (these two work well as a pair, 2 sides of the Neil coin) Songs
Don't Be Denied Like a Hurricane On the Beach Pocahontas Walk like a Giant Going Back Mother Earth Birds Speaking Out Distant Camera I'm the Ocean All those Dreams I may have mentioned it, maybe not, but with Neil's work, I'd recommend to most people familiar with his 70s work to get into his 90s then 00s work before diving into the 80s. His 80s work is interesting and I do enjoy it in a way (its not always great or successful but it is interesting). Most people get turned off by his 80s output they don't bother to follow on but you may be different here. Keep us updated. I saw Neil live once 4 years ago with Crazy Horse, I sincerely hope I get the chance to do so again. |
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Aug 31, 2016 22:14:46 GMT -5
Curse me, hate me, hurt me, kill me oh they will rest no longer)- One of the best Blind Guardian lyrics since Nightfall in Middle Earth
(side note ince the song is about Bran Stark, are They the white walkers?)
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 2, 2016 0:21:41 GMT -5
Came here to say that Travis are fucking brilliant.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 2, 2016 0:45:39 GMT -5
Came here to say that Travis are fucking brilliant. and they're lovely guys as well, especially Fran. He's the modest musician I ever met. |
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Post by arthurmorgan on Sept 2, 2016 18:57:34 GMT -5
I thought I've heard every great Pavement song there is but I've been proven wrong:
wtf?
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Post by itsgoodtobeback on Sept 3, 2016 3:57:17 GMT -5
I love Just - Radiohead, but I don't like the rest of their work.
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Post by sufuking perbley on Sept 4, 2016 5:33:50 GMT -5
I'm curious whether I Wanna Be Adored by Stone Roses ever caused any kind of "controversy" regarding the lyrics, selling the soul and all that. I wonder because I am certain that if someone sung lyrics like that in Croatia, the church would get them arrested or something.
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Post by mkoasis on Sept 4, 2016 17:00:10 GMT -5
A lot of Jam fans consider Sound Affects to be their best but to me, it is overrated. Pretty good/great album, for sure but I think All Mod Cons and especially Setting Sons are better. I think SA has a few brilliant tracks in PRetty Green, Set the House Ablaze, That's Entertainment, and Boy a About Town, and a handful of other interesting, good ones like Monday, Scrape Away, Man in the Cornershop. Different Now is a good little tune and Start is probably their least best single IMO along with Beat Surrender. Not bad at all but not as brilliant as all their others.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 4, 2016 19:22:59 GMT -5
I'm curious whether I Wanna Be Adored by Stone Roses ever caused any kind of "controversy" regarding the lyrics, selling the soul and all that. I wonder because I am certain that if someone sung lyrics like that in Croatia, the church would get them arrested or something. Not that I recall, you have to understand that The Stone Roses even with Spike Island, etc. were nowhere near as big as they are now after two decades apart and a comeback. Also unlike certain Eastern and Southern European countries in the UK the Catholic Church has been weakened considerably by a number of factors including changing demographics, declining attendance and fall in believers, revelations in the financial and sexual behaviour of the church and/or it's representatives, etc. Also it's 'I Am The Resurrection' that contains religious phrases in "I am the resurrection and I am the light" which Ian Brown bastardised from a two quotes he saw on a church board in Manchester IIRC which were John 11:25 "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;" and John 1:4 "In Him was life, and that life was the light of men." |
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Post by Sternumman on Sept 5, 2016 0:06:09 GMT -5
Mr. Jones is easily in my top 10 of the 90's. It never gets old. August and Everything After is the best album of 1993 as well. That's right... suck it In Utero and Siamese Dream. Mr Jones isn't even the best song on the album. Round Here is a masterpiece. August And Everything After is easily one of the best albums of the nineties. It's so underrated. |
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Post by sufuking perbley on Sept 5, 2016 4:37:37 GMT -5
I'm curious whether I Wanna Be Adored by Stone Roses ever caused any kind of "controversy" regarding the lyrics, selling the soul and all that. I wonder because I am certain that if someone sung lyrics like that in Croatia, the church would get them arrested or something. Not that I recall, you have to understand that The Stone Roses even with Spike Island, etc. were nowhere near as big as they are now after two decades apart and a comeback. Also unlike certain Eastern and Southern European countries in the UK the Catholic Church has been weakened considerably by a number of factors including changing demographics, declining attendance and fall in believers, revelations in the financial and sexual behaviour of the church and/or it's representatives, etc. Also it's 'I Am The Resurrection' that contains religious phrases in "I am the resurrection and I am the light" which Ian Brown bastardised from a two quotes he saw on a church board in Manchester IIRC which were John 11:25 "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;" and John 1:4 "In Him was life, and that life was the light of men." Ah,thank you, I knew I could count on you! I remember seeing the lyrics of I Wanna Be Adored written on a desk in high school, before I even knew who Stone Roses were and thinking how that must have been something scandalous. And I didn't know I Am The Resurrection is a Bible quote, awesome. I'm as atheist as they come but I love religious elements in everything for some reason. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 5, 2016 15:49:40 GMT -5
#ShandyBoys
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Post by matt on Sept 5, 2016 16:10:20 GMT -5
Not that I recall, you have to understand that The Stone Roses even with Spike Island, etc. were nowhere near as big as they are now after two decades apart and a comeback. Also unlike certain Eastern and Southern European countries in the UK the Catholic Church has been weakened considerably by a number of factors including changing demographics, declining attendance and fall in believers, revelations in the financial and sexual behaviour of the church and/or it's representatives, etc. Also it's 'I Am The Resurrection' that contains religious phrases in "I am the resurrection and I am the light" which Ian Brown bastardised from a two quotes he saw on a church board in Manchester IIRC which were John 11:25 "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;" and John 1:4 "In Him was life, and that life was the light of men." Ah,thank you, I knew I could count on you! I remember seeing the lyrics of I Wanna Be Adored written on a desk in high school, before I even knew who Stone Roses were and thinking how that must have been something scandalous. And I didn't know I Am The Resurrection is a Bible quote, awesome. I'm as atheist as they come but I love religious elements in everything for some reason. This article gives you a sense and background of Ian Brown's 'spirituality'. Quite an in depth interview. www.theguardian.com/music/2002/feb/02/shopping.popandrock |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 7:37:27 GMT -5
Mr. Jones is easily in my top 10 of the 90's. It never gets old. August and Everything After is the best album of 1993 as well. That's right... suck it In Utero and Siamese Dream. Mr Jones isn't even the best song on the album. Round Here is a masterpiece. August And Everything After is easily one of the best albums of the nineties. It's so underrated.  |
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