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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 22, 2024 6:49:07 GMT -5
It’s a misconception that Noel took the riff from Same Size Feet. You can hear him playing it here in April 1996, during the Walrus outro (skip to 1:24). Same Size Feet wasn’t released until August 1997. Others have argued that it was inspired by ABBA’s Does Your Mother Know, but I don’t really hear much of a similarity myself. I mean Stereophonics released that album 5 years before Noel released Hindu Times. That albums was recorded in 1996. You think Kelly Jones had Oasis bootlegs? |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 22, 2024 8:09:06 GMT -5
It’s a misconception that Noel took the riff from Same Size Feet. You can hear him playing it here in April 1996, during the Walrus outro (skip to 1:24). Same Size Feet wasn’t released until August 1997. Others have argued that it was inspired by ABBA’s Does Your Mother Know, but I don’t really hear much of a similarity myself. Ok so this was the video I briefly mentioned earlier in this discussion as being 'not real'. I should've been more accurate and said I'm skeptical of it - my bad. Now I'd love it to be so as it'd give us a broader picture of Noel's songwriting but I'm not one for just accepting things at face value. My issues are... 1) How has this only just been discovered now? Presumably there must be a new source? This website claims there are two "completely different" sources for this gig but doesn't date when they were first shared. It also makes no reference to 'The Hindu Times' jam in either case. Now if you look on YouTube there's a version that fades out before the jam. Is this the version that was always shared until recently? I can see this gig being shared on this forum with no reference to the jam? Is this because it was the same source as the YouTube video? 2) If you were to have a bit of fun and drop in a fake reference to 'The Hindu Times', doing so at the end of the gig where no one else is playing and there's just crowd noise would be the most convenient place to do it. So what I want to know is... 1) When was this source first shared? If it predates 2001 it's real. If not it's inconclusive. 2) What is the source? How reliable is it? 3) Is there a version of this where the same crowd noise can be heard but there's no jam? If so then it's been overdubbed and is fake. 4) Are there other examples of Noel jamming solo at the end of gigs? I wouldn't know but I'm sure some bootleg listeners would. |
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Post by scottc on Mar 22, 2024 8:15:54 GMT -5
It’s a misconception that Noel took the riff from Same Size Feet. You can hear him playing it here in April 1996, during the Walrus outro (skip to 1:24). Same Size Feet wasn’t released until August 1997. Others have argued that it was inspired by ABBA’s Does Your Mother Know, but I don’t really hear much of a similarity myself. I mean Stereophonics released that album 5 years before Noel released Hindu Times. That albums was recorded in 1996. You think Kelly Jones had Oasis bootlegs? I wasn’t suggesting that Kelly nicked it off Noel! Just that Noel couldn’t have nicked it off Kelly if he was playing it live over a year before the Stereophonics song was released. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Mar 22, 2024 17:09:44 GMT -5
Lyla just on in the pub. Nice pleasant surprise as its not one I hear in public too often.
I remember as a 9 year old it being the song at my school that made it OK to like Oasis again.
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Post by matt on Mar 22, 2024 20:12:13 GMT -5
The middle eight of Let There Be Love is one of Noel's best melodies ever, peaks and falls, rises again like a symphony.
It says something on a post-glory years Oasis album that he could still drop in melody that all other bands would kill for. Even Coldplay at their height during this time didn't have melodies nearly as good as that bit.
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Post by frjdoasis on Mar 22, 2024 23:12:32 GMT -5
The middle eight of Let There Be Love is one of Noel's best melodies ever, peaks and falls, rises again like a symphony. It says something on a post-glory years Oasis album that he could still drop in melody that all other bands would kill for. Even Coldplay at their height during this time didn't have melodies nearly as good as that bit. This is exactly one of the reasons why DBTT is maybe my favourite Oasis album and I'm still amazed at how it is mentioned as his favourite album by a friend of mine who used to sing in an Oasis tribute band we were part of. He wasn't a fan of the band, but he had instantly fallen in love with that album. |
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Post by axos on Mar 23, 2024 19:12:46 GMT -5
It’s a misconception that Noel took the riff from Same Size Feet. You can hear him playing it here in April 1996, during the Walrus outro (skip to 1:24). Same Size Feet wasn’t released until August 1997. Others have argued that it was inspired by ABBA’s Does Your Mother Know, but I don’t really hear much of a similarity myself. Ok so this was the video I briefly mentioned earlier in this discussion as being 'not real'. I should've been more accurate and said I'm skeptical of it - my bad. Now I'd love it to be so as it'd give us a broader picture of Noel's songwriting but I'm not one for just accepting things at face value. My issues are... 1) How has this only just been discovered now? Presumably there must be a new source? This website claims there are two "completely different" sources for this gig but doesn't date when they were first shared. It also makes no reference to 'The Hindu Times' jam in either case. Now if you look on YouTube there's a version that fades out before the jam. Is this the version that was always shared until recently? I can see this gig being shared on this forum with no reference to the jam? Is this because it was the same source as the YouTube video? 2) If you were to have a bit of fun and drop in a fake reference to 'The Hindu Times', doing so at the end of the gig where no one else is playing and there's just crowd noise would be the most convenient place to do it. So what I want to know is... 1) When was this source first shared? If it predates 2001 it's real. If not it's inconclusive. 2) What is the source? How reliable is it? 3) Is there a version of this where the same crowd noise can be heard but there's no jam? If so then it's been overdubbed and is fake. 4) Are there other examples of Noel jamming solo at the end of gigs? I wouldn't know but I'm sure some bootleg listeners would. Well for point number four, at Milan 1996 he does something similar and this time the audience actually clap along. That gig can be found on youtube. |
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Post by matt on Mar 23, 2024 20:19:40 GMT -5
Talking of The Hindu Times, does anyone know what the tune is playing at the beginning of the video is, or is it just noodling on the piano and guitar?
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 24, 2024 11:17:25 GMT -5
30 years ago, Oasis performed at the 100 Club!
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Post by thestylecouncil on Mar 25, 2024 17:48:27 GMT -5
Interesting article about Oasis first tour: Exactly 30 years ago, a little-known band called Oasis set out on their first headline tour, playing to small crowds in tiny venues. Many of those venues say they're now struggling and it's harder for new bands to take the same path today.
www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68624032This article also features two very nice photos of Liam that I haven't seen before. |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Mar 28, 2024 2:50:58 GMT -5
Re broadcast 2024!
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 28, 2024 22:23:17 GMT -5
Rehearsal setlist before the Don't Believe The Truth tour kicked off. According to Omega Auctions, the rehearsal was at Wheeler End studios and this particular setlist was played on April 12th, 2005.  |
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 28, 2024 22:30:00 GMT -5
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 29, 2024 4:33:06 GMT -5
Interesting. Would have been the only time Shakermaker was played in 1997 then, apart from Noel playing it opening up for Paul Weller. Pretty sure he did it at Brixton Academy along with the first performance of Half the World Away. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Mar 31, 2024 11:28:11 GMT -5
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Mar 31, 2024 14:02:56 GMT -5
I'm not a City fan but this will be still interesting to see, especially if Noel designed it. |
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Post by carlober on Mar 31, 2024 16:15:56 GMT -5
Calling The Crimson Rambler mahsteve asimarx jezza2 oasisunited and all the oasis historians. I can't remember if we ever got a more correct, rough date for the Boardwalk performance of AATW, which was incorrectly labeled as "1992". I believe it's from the second half of 1993. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 31, 2024 16:55:39 GMT -5
Rehearsal setlist before the Don't Believe The Truth tour kicked off. According to Omega Auctions, the rehearsal was at Wheeler End studios and this particular setlist was played on April 12th, 2005. Those rehearsals perhaps formed the big screen footage shown at the 2005 gigs? |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Mar 31, 2024 17:05:07 GMT -5
Calling The Crimson Rambler mahsteve asimarx jezza2 oasisunited and all the oasis historians. I can't remember if we ever got a more correct, rough date for the Boardwalk performance of AATW, which was incorrectly labeled as "1992". I believe it's from the second half of 1993. Curious as to why you think it’s that late? Not doubt, just want to know what makes you think that! Is it Noel’s epiphone Les Paul? 😅 The amp rigs do seem pretty big for the early days of the band alright. A full Marshall stack for Noel does seem a bit unlikely for 1992 but maybe he did? |
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Post by carlober on Apr 1, 2024 4:28:56 GMT -5
Calling The Crimson Rambler mahsteve asimarx jezza2 oasisunited and all the oasis historians. I can't remember if we ever got a more correct, rough date for the Boardwalk performance of AATW, which was incorrectly labeled as "1992". I believe it's from the second half of 1993. Curious as to why you think it’s that late? Not doubt, just want to know what makes you think that! Is it Noel’s epiphone Les Paul? 😅 The amp rigs do seem pretty big for the early days of the band alright. A full Marshall stack for Noel does seem a bit unlikely for 1992 but maybe he did? Yeah, it is because of the Epiphone Les Paul but also because Bonehead still played a Stratocaster at King Tut's in May 1993. |
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Post by janedoe on Apr 1, 2024 5:04:41 GMT -5
Best April Fools secretmanchester.com/liam-gallagher-oasis-pub/Liam Gallagher Is Set To Open A Supersonic Oasis-Themed Pub In ManchesterThe new opening announcement comes ahead of the 30 year anniversary of Oasis’ debut album, Definitely Maybe, and Liam Gallagher's UK tour. The idea of Oasis getting back together has been flirted with over the years, with Liam Gallagher taking every opportunity to float a reunion, however alas there are no developments so far. Luckily, fans can stop crying their heart out though as they will be able to relive the good ol’ days of the 90s band, as the Gallagher brother, Liam, has taken it upon himself to launch a pub themed around Oasis in Manchester. And she’s electric! Known as The Wonderwall, the musician is going back to his roots and opening the pub in his hometown of Burnage, south of Manchester and is set to be a stone’s throw away from Cringle Park. The announcement comes ahead of the 30 year anniversary of Oasis’ debut album, Definitely Maybe, which will also see Liam Gallagher tour the country with three huge homecoming gigs taking place at Manchester’s Co-op Live. He’s a busy man this year! Images of the pub have been revealed and it looks like an absolute haven for Oasis fans as memorabilia and photos of the band will be adorned across every possible surface – from the walls to the beer mats. You’ll even find “Blur is rubbish!” scrawled on the bathroom walls in an ode to their music rivals from the 90s. And it couldn’t be a pub by Liam Gallagher without a nod to his much-loved football club, Manchester City – United supporters, you gotta roll with it! Oasis fans can expect to find the pub decked out with sky blue booth seating and photos of the club’s top footballers above the bar. But the love for the band doesn’t stop there! The musician also has plans to launch a range of beers on tap named after some of the bands top tracks. You can sip on the likes of Champagne Supernova (plenty of bubbles and melancholy notes in this one), Morning Glory, Songbird, Live Forever and Supersonic. Plus, lovers of the band will able to listen to all of Oasis’ greatest hits as they sit back with a pint. And like the end of the night at clubs back in the day to signal closing time, the bar will communicate last orders by playing the band’s number one hit Wonderwall, which has sold around 2.4 million copies. Liam Gallagher is yet to confirm an opening date and location for the Oasis-themed pub but we’ll be sure to keep you updated. Got ya! April Fool’s! This article has been published for April Fool’s Day (April 1) and the news of Liam Gallagher opening an Oasis-themed pub is false on the day of publication (but we would love it to happen). |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 1, 2024 5:21:13 GMT -5
Curious as to why you think it’s that late? Not doubt, just want to know what makes you think that! Is it Noel’s epiphone Les Paul? 😅 The amp rigs do seem pretty big for the early days of the band alright. A full Marshall stack for Noel does seem a bit unlikely for 1992 but maybe he did? Yeah, it is because of the Epiphone Les Paul but also because Bonehead still played a Stratocaster at King Tut's in May 1993. I wonder why it is always mislabeled as 1992 if it is from late 93. |
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Post by asimarx on Apr 1, 2024 6:54:47 GMT -5
Calling The Crimson Rambler mahsteve asimarx jezza2 oasisunited and all the oasis historians. I can't remember if we ever got a more correct, rough date for the Boardwalk performance of AATW, which was incorrectly labeled as "1992". I believe it's from the second half of 1993. I guess you're right  Here's some info from the great "Shakermaker" Youtube channel: "As for the actual date it isn’t concrete, but Tony himself has said that after they did their rehearsal accompanied by Bobby filming, the six of them all headed to Manchester Academy for the In The City festival that night (and a photograph from that gig is this video’s thumbnail). Therefore if that’s true, the Boardwalk footage which is frequently mislabelled as 1992, is from the 14th of September 1993 (though going off the photo the band’s clothes are different so it could be from a day or two before). Even if that isn’t the case however, it definitely has to be from late 1993 as no one is on Telecaster guitars and it’s a Sony exec filming the band."Some more info on the actual taper from an interview davidjay did with Supersonic director Mat Whitecross: Tom: We’d seen little clips of Oasis rehearsing in the Boardwalk before, so it was great to see more of that footage in Supersonic. Where did that video come from? Who shot it, and is there much more left?
Mat: It was shot by a guy called Bobby Langley – I think he was a film student at the time but he’s now quite a big guy in the music industry. He does a lot of different merchandising for various artists. And he basically turned up at the Boardwalk and filmed them for a little bit, [possibly] for a student project. I believe he filmed three songs. One where there’s no sound, so that wasn’t particularly useful to us. And he filmed All Around the World, which was amazing and bizarre because obviously it’s a song off the third album [1997’s Be Here Now] so you just go, “Hang on, so this is before they were signed. How is that even possible?!” And then they did I am the Walrus. Then there’s a bit of banter and stuff.www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=1952 |
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Post by carlober on Apr 1, 2024 9:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by Manualex on Apr 1, 2024 10:04:43 GMT -5
Talking of The Hindu Times, does anyone know what the tune is playing at the beginning of the video is, or is it just noodling on the piano and guitar? Long long time ago I read that it was played by WIZ(the director of the music video) and Gem, but I could be misremembering stuff. |
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