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Post by beentherenow on Feb 14, 2019 10:45:22 GMT -5
I don’t have any gripes with Stop the Clocks per se (although the complete omission of BHN is annoying) but it’s the fact that each disk only contains 9 tracks and 45 mins or so of music. Either edit a few tracks and have one ultimate 80 minute disk or add a few extra tracks per disk. It’s not as the album would suffer by adding Whatever, DYKWIM and Columbia etc Although as posted, in the age of Spotify/Apple Music it is pretty redundant anyway Yep how those songs got left off and Talk Tonight was on it I have no idea. Yes that’s the one that stands out for me too. Having that and HTWA was overkill. In fact I hadn’t noticed before but over 25% of STC is Noel sung! A travesty when you consider Liam really was the voice and focal point of Oasis |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 14, 2019 11:07:39 GMT -5
Yep how those songs got left off and Talk Tonight was on it I have no idea. Yes that’s the one that stands out for me too. Having that and HTWA was overkill. In fact I hadn’t noticed before but over 25% of STC is Noel sung! A travesty when you consider Liam really was the voice and focal point of Oasis That is all true but also remember part of their story was their killer b side output and how both brothers could sing absolute gems. I think its a good release. The 9s songs per disc was stupid. It was stupid in 2006 and remains so today. But with streaming now your playlist never ends does it? |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 15, 2019 5:53:30 GMT -5
Having slagged Noel off a while back Jason Williamson (of Sleaford Mods) might not be the most popular guy around here but he is in fact a big fan of DM/(WTS)MG? era Oasis. During a Q&A he did with The Guardian recently, in which he stated why he dislikes one my favourite new bands Idles, he was asked what his favourite Oasis songs were to which he answered: "Headshrinker. Bring It On Down. Columbia. Slide Away." which is a pretty great selection if you ask me.
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 15, 2019 11:19:05 GMT -5
I've always wondered what a fan vote version would have ended up like if they had let us choose instead Well... according to over 100 fan votes, this is the top 18 tracks....
1 Live Forever 9.81 < DM
2 Slide Away 9.72 < DM
3 Champagne Supernova 9.71 < MG
4 The Masterplan 9.65 < NAT
5 Don't Look Back in Anger 9.63 < MG
6 Supersonic 9.55 < DM
7 Some Might Say 9.53 < MG
8 Wonderwall 9.28 < MG
9 Whatever 9.20 < NAT
10 Rock 'n' Roll Star 9.19 < DM
11 Listen Up 8.97 < NAT
12 Morning Glory 8.97 < MG
13 Gas Panic! 8.91 < SOTSOG
14 Acquiesce 8.88 < NAT
15 Rockin' Chair 8.86 < NAT
16 D'You Know What I Mean? 8.84 < BHN
17 Cigarettes & Alcohol 8.78 < DM
18 Cast No Shadow 8.75 < MG
MG: 6 (33%)
DM: 5 (28%)
NAT: 5 (28%)
BHN: 1 (6%)
SOTSOG: 1 (6%)
That is exactly TWO songs released post-96!
For reference sake, the next two are Half The World Away and Talk Tonight. Which means that there are more Non-Album Tracks (7) in the top 20 than anything else. Chew on that one.
IMO that is a very good reflection on what an Oasis best of should look like. Cast No Shadow as much as I like it, is a bit of a surprise but the rest are pretty much indisputable |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 15, 2019 11:27:23 GMT -5
Rockin' Chair above D'You Know What I Mean? is baffling to me.
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Post by joladella on Feb 15, 2019 12:03:07 GMT -5
Having slagged Noel off a while back Jason Williamson (of Sleaford Mods) might not be the most popular guy around here but he is in fact a big fan of DM/(WTS)MG? era Oasis. During a Q&A he did with The Guardian recently, in which he stated why he dislikes one my favourite new bands Idles, he was asked what his favourite Oasis songs were to which he answered: " Headshrinker. Bring It On Down. Columbia. Slide Away." which is a pretty great selection if you ask me. For me it was the other way round, them slagging off Oasis made me notice them, good PR, that! Also, they seem to be friendly with former Oasis members (Bonehead, Andy) as well as at least one from Liam's band (Moore, I think), according to Twitter interactions. So no real "bad blood" there. But even there was, does it matter, really? 
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 15, 2019 13:26:37 GMT -5
That is exactly TWO songs released post-96! I was actually thinking about this very thing this morning. If you think about all the tracks released post-BHN, how many could you actually transfer back to DM-BHN era and have them work? The Importance of Being Idle? Lyla? Stop Crying Your Heart Out? You may be able to stretch a few from SOTSOG as well. I'm not saying by any means that it's bad that they tried different things/grew musically/etc, but there is very little in the Gem-Andy-Oasis years that relates to the early years in terms of the songs. With this being said, I'm not surprised that the fan base focuses 95% of its preference on the first three albums. |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 15, 2019 14:16:22 GMT -5
That is exactly TWO songs released post-96! I was actually thinking about this very thing this morning. If you think about all the tracks released post-BHN, how many could you actually transfer back to DM-BHN era and have them work? The Importance of Being Idle? Lyla? Stop Crying Your Heart Out? You may be able to stretch a few from SOTSOG as well. I'm not saying by any means that it's bad that they tried different things/grew musically/etc, but there is very little in the Gem-Andy-Oasis years that relates to the early years in terms of the songs. With this being said, I'm not surprised that the fan base focuses 95% of its preference on the first three albums. The production / arrangement styles are too different, and not in a good way. Their 90's music was a blazing, loud, firestorm of guitars and melody. After 2001, it was weaker melodies and limp guitars. I think Lyla could have been an exciting song had it been written in 1993, but with that bullshit back-to-basics sound they had in the mid-noughties, nothing great becomes of it. The Hindu Times Demo is a monster, a perfect blend of new features and their signature ocean of noise, but the album version is nothing more than a tepid toe-tapper. SOTSOG, weak tracklist choices forgiven, had a different style in a good way. I couldn't imagine Gas Panic on the original trilogy, but that's because it does it's own thing. |
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 15, 2019 14:23:26 GMT -5
I was actually thinking about this very thing this morning. If you think about all the tracks released post-BHN, how many could you actually transfer back to DM-BHN era and have them work? The Importance of Being Idle? Lyla? Stop Crying Your Heart Out? You may be able to stretch a few from SOTSOG as well. I'm not saying by any means that it's bad that they tried different things/grew musically/etc, but there is very little in the Gem-Andy-Oasis years that relates to the early years in terms of the songs. With this being said, I'm not surprised that the fan base focuses 95% of its preference on the first three albums. The production / arrangement styles are too different, and not in a good way. Their 90's music was a blazing, loud, firestorm of guitars and melody. After 2001, it was weaker melodies and limp guitars. I think Lyla could have been an exciting song had it been written in 1993, but with that bullshit back-to-basics sound they had in the mid-noughties, nothing great becomes of it. The Hindu Times Demo is a monster, a perfect blend of new features and their signature ocean of noise, but the album version is nothing more than a tepid toe-tapper. SOTSOG, weak tracklist choices forgiven, had a different style in a good way. I couldn't imagine Gas Panic on the original trilogy, but that's because it does it's own thing. I'm not even talking about the production, as that is clearly different between the two eras. What I meant is that there are very few songs stylistically/structure-wise that you could even slot in to the "biggest band in the world" era, so it's not surprising that not too many songs from the Gem/Andy era get included when building a list of most popular songs. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 16, 2019 14:53:46 GMT -5
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Post by Rolo on Feb 17, 2019 18:04:02 GMT -5
Anyone else a fan? Always really liked it.
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Post by World71R on Feb 17, 2019 21:59:51 GMT -5
Anyone else a fan? Always really liked it. I never thought of it as a great song but a good one and one that would've belonged on HC better than Probably All in the Mind. Andy did a good job writing this, and the acoustic version's very nice: |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 17, 2019 23:14:28 GMT -5
Anyone else a fan? Always really liked it. Hearing it now after ages, better than I expected. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 18, 2019 14:22:19 GMT -5
Still the best mash up I myself have created
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Post by Derrick on Feb 18, 2019 14:52:36 GMT -5
Still the best mash up I myself have created WTF is that?!? |
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 18, 2019 15:19:01 GMT -5
I quite like Thankyou For The Good Times too, it's just a good poppy rock tune. Thought it deserved a place on Heathen Chemistry above some of the other stuff.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 18, 2019 15:49:39 GMT -5
Still the best mash up I myself have created What the fucking hell is this? |
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Post by crisppacket on Feb 18, 2019 16:10:50 GMT -5
I really and truly dislike acquiesce
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Post by Parka Flames on Feb 18, 2019 16:43:23 GMT -5
Still the best mash up I myself have created Hahahaha wtf |
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Post by Aman on Feb 19, 2019 5:59:03 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not sure what I just heard.
A lot going on there, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 7:56:07 GMT -5
I really and truly dislike acquiesce   Should have placed this one in the 'Unpopular Opinions' thread mate. |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 19, 2019 8:14:37 GMT -5
By each passing reaction of the Gallagher brothers my Oasis love slowly fades away...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 19, 2019 15:32:52 GMT -5
Noel couldn’t read music when he started in Oasis, so how did he remember how to play all the songs, and how did he transcribe it for the rest of the band ?
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 19, 2019 16:27:26 GMT -5
Noel couldn’t read music when he started in Oasis, so (how did he remember how to play all the songs, and how did he transcribe it for the rest of the band ? I've wondered this, I don't think Thom Yorke can read music either. Maybe they "do do do" stuff to the rest of the band? |
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Post by funhouse on Feb 19, 2019 20:43:29 GMT -5
Noel couldn’t read music when he started in Oasis, so (how did he remember how to play all the songs, and how did he transcribe it for the rest of the band ? I've wondered this, I don't think Thom Yorke can read music either. Maybe they "do do do" stuff to the rest of the band? Doesn't everyone nowadays just record everything on their phones and then play it to their bandmates? |
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