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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 0:00:17 GMT -5
I fucking love the way Liam sounds on the "Carnation" Jam cover. I wish he had more songs sounding like this on SOTSOG. Such a unique vocal delivery from Liam. A one and done.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Feb 20, 2018 5:24:55 GMT -5
I fucking love the way Liam sounds on the "Carnation" Jam cover. I wish he had more songs sounding like this on SOTSOG. Such a unique vocal delivery from Liam. A one and done. Liam's version of Carnation is truly godlike, his voice sounds outta this world great! Very glad it has been recorded, so that many generations to come will be able to enjoy his brilliant performance!
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Post by keke on Feb 20, 2018 11:56:16 GMT -5
twenty years ago today, best champagne supernova solo ever.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 20, 2018 14:48:41 GMT -5
twenty years ago today, best champagne supernova solo ever. What an absolute behemoth of a gig!! Proper mad fer this!!
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Post by carlober on Feb 20, 2018 15:53:28 GMT -5
twenty years ago today, best champagne supernova solo ever. Incredible gig. One of the first Oasis bootlegs that I got.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 18:09:19 GMT -5
I wish I could hear the full recording of Live Forever guitar solo. Apparently Owen Morris cut over half of it because Noel sounded too much like Slash and Noel got mad because he spent 4 weeks writing the solo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 7:00:53 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better.
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 21, 2018 10:12:30 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better. I've always thought that they SHOULD have taken a break in 99 and not do SOTOG (at least straight away) when Guigsy and Bonehead left. Maybe toured with Andy and Gem for a couple of years then in 2001 come back with an album that crosses both Standing..and Heathen
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 11:02:37 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better. I've always thought that they SHOULD have taken a break in 99 and not do SOTOG (at least straight away) when Guigsy and Bonehead left. Maybe toured with Andy and Gem for a couple of years then in 2001 come back with an album that crosses both Standing..and Heathen Absolutely, the end result of this were two very uneven albums but HC´s lowest points are even worse than Little James and the high points of SOTSG are better. Along with that, they left a lot of good tracks as B-Sides in that time frame. They always did that but because the quality of the albums tracks were inferior now, it´s even more noticeable how stupid some calls were. I agree with you. Noel could have had a little solo record out, Liam could have taken a very well need longer break for his voice or even do a side project of his own.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 11:26:51 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better. Liam's singing sends shivers down my spine every time I hear this.
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Post by funhouse on Feb 21, 2018 12:25:34 GMT -5
I wish I could hear the full recording of Live Forever guitar solo. Apparently Owen Morris cut over half of it because Noel sounded too much like Slash and Noel got mad because he spent 4 weeks writing the solo. It's hard to argue with the end result, but I would kill to hear that. One would hope that someone was smart enough back then to see the value in not throwing it away.
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Post by mossy on Feb 21, 2018 12:35:32 GMT -5
I wish I could hear the full recording of Live Forever guitar solo. Apparently Owen Morris cut over half of it because Noel sounded too much like Slash and Noel got mad because he spent 4 weeks writing the solo. 2037 boxset. X
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Post by tatomoon on Feb 21, 2018 17:01:26 GMT -5
Let's All Make Believe should have been the 3rd track on SOTSOG and the second single.
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Post by Spaceman on Feb 21, 2018 19:04:33 GMT -5
We were the last.
We were the greatest.
Nothing anybody else does will be as big as Oasis.
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Post by Spaceman on Feb 21, 2018 19:08:52 GMT -5
WE DEFINITELY GOT A TABLE UPSTAIRS WITH THE BIG BOYS WHETER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT
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Post by World71R on Feb 21, 2018 22:23:34 GMT -5
Let's All Make Believe should have been the 3rd track on SOTSOG and the second single. I like the idea, but I think it would've been better as the fifth track. Those opening four tracks are a good burst of energy and confidence before the album dives into some of the raw emotions and pessimism that defines SOTSOG. (Additionally, Full On would've been good in Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is's spot)
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Post by tatomoon on Feb 22, 2018 18:35:23 GMT -5
Fuckin' In The Bushes Go Let It Out Let's All Make Believe Full On (Liam vox) Who Feels Love Gas Panic! Where Did It All Go Wrong (acoustic version) One Way Road Roll It Over
perfecto
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2018 18:44:11 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better. I've always thought that they SHOULD have taken a break in 99 and not do SOTOG (at least straight away) when Guigsy and Bonehead left. Maybe toured with Andy and Gem for a couple of years then in 2001 come back with an album that crosses both Standing..and Heathen To be fair they were kinda stuck when Bonehead and Guigs left. They had literally just finished SOTSOG or were about 98% done. They weren't gonna shelve the entire project that late into the game. They had to soldier on. All Noel did was re-record Bonehead and Guigs parts.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2018 18:46:21 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better. At the time of its release it was kinda viewed as "same as it ever was, same as it ever was". Noel had always left amazing material on the bench for b-sides. We just didn't know that SOTSOG was going to lack in quality tunes from top to bottom and that Liam was basically be MIA for b-sides. We all soon realized this a few weeks later when SOTSOG leaked.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 26, 2018 11:52:17 GMT -5
I wish I could hear the full recording of Live Forever guitar solo. Apparently Owen Morris cut over half of it because Noel sounded too much like Slash and Noel got mad because he spent 4 weeks writing the solo. 2037 boxset. X Been put back again mate, something about the artwork and material not being good enough so it will never see the light of day? :/
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Post by anothergreatdivide on Feb 27, 2018 16:09:11 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry came in at #267 on my local rock stations 300 greatest albums ever. Ahead of Exile on Main Street. Wtf
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Post by matt on Feb 27, 2018 16:13:14 GMT -5
Leaving this off a record pretty much sums up the chaos Oasis was back then. If they just had a longer break they could have a great album, the material was there, it just needed a clear vision of things. SOTSG is still a decent/good album but could and should have been a lot better. At the time of its release it was kinda viewed as "same as it ever was, same as it ever was". Noel had always left amazing material on the bench for b-sides. We just didn't know that SOTSOG was going to lack in quality tunes from top to bottom and that Liam was basically be MIA for b-sides. We all soon realized this a few weeks later when SOTSOG leaked. Obviously I can't imagine it having not been an Oasis fan in 2000, but hearing Standing on the Shoulder of Giants after Be Here Now must have been desperately disappointing no? I can imagine that some maybe thought Be Here Now was a blip - a good album for many, just not near the quality of the first two. But, hey, they'd surely be back to top quality with a stylistic reinvention or perhaps simply just better songs than Be Here Now. So when hearing this one, it must have killed all the hope. And the less said about subsequent releases, the better considering a good many think Giants is the 4th best album after the first three.
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Post by Aman on Feb 27, 2018 16:14:03 GMT -5
Yeah you can see why it sold so low really.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 27, 2018 18:03:41 GMT -5
Hmmm.....
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2018 18:28:37 GMT -5
At the time of its release it was kinda viewed as "same as it ever was, same as it ever was". Noel had always left amazing material on the bench for b-sides. We just didn't know that SOTSOG was going to lack in quality tunes from top to bottom and that Liam was basically be MIA for b-sides. We all soon realized this a few weeks later when SOTSOG leaked. Obviously I can't imagine it having not been an Oasis fan in 2000, but hearing Standing on the Shoulder of Giants after Be Here Now must have been desperately disappointing no? I can imagine that some maybe thought Be Here Now was a blip - a good album for many, just not near the quality of the first two. But, hey, they'd surely be back to top quality with a stylistic reinvention or perhaps simply just better songs than Be Here Now. So when hearing this one, it must have killed all the hope. And the less said about subsequent releases, the better considering a good many think Giants is the 4th best album after the first three. When the BHN tour ended, there was a big break and Noel spoke how the first 3 albums were pub rock but albums 4-6 were going to be a new phase and sound. That got me excited. Were they gonna be like the Beatles and take their music to the next level? That didn’t really happen but the sonic landscape did get an overhaul. The album does sound great but the songs weren’t there. When doing the mini USA tour in 1999 noel spoke about how SOTSOG was almost where he wanted to be sonically but the album contained two shit songs (PYMWYMI and ICSAL). I thought it was weird at the time to do interviews and say such things. He wasn’t kidding either. That ended up being true. SOTSOG was also the first time I noticed Liam’s voice being different. A little more gruff in places. Nothing major but a sign that things might change on that front. Overall it felt like a tad of a let down. Album only had 10 songs and Liam only sings 6 tunes! Combine that with only 1 b side sung by Liam. When you have a weapon like Liam you use it for Fucks sakes.
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