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Post by leak4ever on Nov 20, 2015 10:11:09 GMT -5
I think the closest Liam has come to writing a true classic is Songbird.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Nov 20, 2015 10:24:05 GMT -5
The thing about a "Classic" to consider is that song instantly recognisable around the world?
Songbird probably isnt. Its certainly one of Oasis best songs, but classic? Probably not.
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Post by ManofMisery on Nov 20, 2015 10:27:01 GMT -5
I'm outta times better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 10:28:10 GMT -5
No.
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Post by carryusall on Nov 20, 2015 10:35:21 GMT -5
I'm Outta Time is a classic Imo. I like that it's not quite an archetypal Oasis flag-waver, it's got some very sweet, subtle moments. Like Andy's three notes when everything else drops out. The production on any other Oasis album would have ruined it. If it had been on DBTT it would have sounded like the demo. But as it is it's perfect. Liam has two types of ballads/slow songs; the sweet simple ballads and the ones where it sounds like he has used really strange chords but actually hasn't. This combines both to a lovely effect
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 20, 2015 10:39:52 GMT -5
No he hasn't. I'm Outta Time and Songbird are good songs, but no classics.
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Post by carlober on Nov 20, 2015 10:45:32 GMT -5
A classic in the vein of Wonderwall, DLBIA or even SCYHO? No way.
He's made a few very good songs though: Songbird, I'm Outta Time and Start Anew are really good and they're probably his best ones, imho. I quite like also Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and I Believe In All, but I don't really care for the rest to be honest...
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 20, 2015 11:08:04 GMT -5
No, nowhere near.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 20, 2015 11:12:23 GMT -5
Liam's best song is "Songbird". I'm not sure if I would call it a classic but its a damn fine song.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 11:45:33 GMT -5
I think Liam is capable of writing a classic (maybe more of a co write) with the right guidance, hes done quite a few good songs, none of them have quite hit the heights though, I think beady eye shouldve done with start anew what kodaline did with one day, eg re released it with a slightly different arrangement and some added work.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 20, 2015 11:58:43 GMT -5
I think Liam is capable of writing a classic (maybe more of a co write) with the right guidance, hes done quite a few good songs, none of them have quite hit the heights though, I think beady eye shouldve done with start anew what kodaline did with one day, eg re released it with a slightly different arrangement and some added work. You mean like a completely different song Some people are just not cut out to be songwriters.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 12:01:40 GMT -5
I think Liam is capable of writing a classic (maybe more of a co write) with the right guidance, hes done quite a few good songs, none of them have quite hit the heights though, I think beady eye shouldve done with start anew what kodaline did with one day, eg re released it with a slightly different arrangement and some added work. You mean like a completely different song Some people are just not cut out to be songwriters. no no, go and listen to the album version of one day and listen to the single version, they just sped it up abit and improved the overall production so its abit grander, made a fairly basic song into something abit more noteworthy. beady eye couldve done something similiar, maybe cut or change some of those "got the whole world in our hands" lines out so its a little less repetitive towards the end. single version album version
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Post by joladella on Nov 20, 2015 13:16:19 GMT -5
With "Flick of the finger" always doing surprisingly well here in the polls about post Oasis songs, you could say he came close with that one, as co-writer.
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Nov 20, 2015 13:37:36 GMT -5
Has Liam written a classic? No. But neither has Coldplay. Or Ed Sheeran. Or Taylor Swift. Or Josh Groban.
My point? I dunno...........
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 20, 2015 15:13:54 GMT -5
I think Liam is capable of writing a classic (maybe more of a co write) with the right guidance, hes done quite a few good songs, none of them have quite hit the heights though, I think beady eye shouldve done with start anew what kodaline did with one day, eg re released it with a slightly different arrangement and some added work. You mean like a completely different song Some people are just not cut out to be songwriters. You are saying he shouldn't be a songwriter because he doesn't write classics? Liam has written some good songs.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 20, 2015 15:17:17 GMT -5
I'd say Liam has written an Oasis classic but obviously not a world wide one.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 20, 2015 15:19:50 GMT -5
No. I don't think that Songbird is even Oasis classic. Even if it is, it is definitely not classic classic.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 20, 2015 15:21:30 GMT -5
I'd say Liam has written an Oasis classic but obviously not a world wide one. ^^ This. You were faster minute or two, i was writing the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 15:27:55 GMT -5
but you could argue that the only world wide hit Noel ever penned was wonderwall, would be pretty surprising to see Liam to do the same considering the other amazing songs Noel has written over the years.
songbird was probably the closet thing he came to a "classic" and it did pretty well especially considering it wasnt during the oasis peak years eg it wasnt put out when people were eating up anything to do with oasis.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 20, 2015 15:32:17 GMT -5
I'll always maintain that Liam composed a trio of great songs in Oasis:
1. Songbird 2. I'm Outta Time 3. Boy with the Blues
But are they classics? Fuck no!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 15:40:22 GMT -5
I suppose it really depends on how you define 'Liam'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 15:42:59 GMT -5
I suppose it really depends on how you define 'Liam'. thats kind of it really, I think Noel always helped him out to a certain degree, I remember seeing a video where Noel was playing the melody to boy with the blues on guitar while Liam was watching so its entirely possible that Noel played a key role in making the songs oasis quality to a certain degree as far as the intrumentals go etc plus its been mentioned I believe that he Gem and Andy bounced ideas off eachother so they probably chipped in.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 20, 2015 15:53:11 GMT -5
Has Liam written a classic? No. But neither has Coldplay. Or Ed Sheeran. Or Taylor Swift. Or Josh Groban. My point? I dunno........... got to agree with this tbh as such.. i think the answer was already a given that 99.9% of the forum would've known prior to the question being asked? Liam isn't a prolific song writer who pens classics, to keep it in reference frame to oasis/ gallaghers from 2000 onwards when liam started writing, Noel who is a prolific song writer probably penned 2 actual 'classics' in importance of being idol / SCYHO (tho some would argue against that). like others said about liam noels wrote lots of good tunes and sure i've forgotten some but with ratio of number of songs to creating classics poor by his status as song writer of generation
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Post by asimarx on Nov 20, 2015 17:14:33 GMT -5
With "Flick of the finger" always doing surprisingly well here in the polls about post Oasis songs, you could say he came close with that one, as co-writer. How I'd love to hear the song's origin, a tune called, "Velvet Building", from the, *cough*, Death In Vegas sessions. But I agree, it's a pretty remarkable song for the fact that it's basically lacking a real chorus. It's not really meant to be a single, but in terms of an album opener it sets the record straight, so to speak.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 20, 2015 17:16:24 GMT -5
A good song isn't necessarily a classic.
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