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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 25, 2017 19:02:15 GMT -5
I still cannot for the life of me work out why Noel chose to put A Quick Peep and Hung In A Bad Place on HC instead of Thank You For The Good Times and The Roller. I really hope we get a 2002 version of the Roller one day. The Roller would have seemed primed for HC considering how much Noel talked it up late 2000 to 2002. Hopefully that version was a little more dirty than the rather polished DGSS version.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Sept 25, 2017 19:02:27 GMT -5
I still cannot for the life of me work out why Noel chose to put A Quick Peep and Hung In A Bad Place on HC instead of Thank You For The Good Times and The Roller. I really hope we get a 2002 version of the Roller one day. The Roller really is meh sounding to me and a Instant Karma rip off. Hung in A Bad Place is better than Thank You For The Good Times imo.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 25, 2017 19:06:11 GMT -5
I still cannot for the life of me work out why Noel chose to put A Quick Peep and Hung In A Bad Place on HC instead of Thank You For The Good Times and The Roller. I really hope we get a 2002 version of the Roller one day. A lot of Noel's tracklisting decisions are beyond comprehension and we'll never have an explanation. SOTSOG is the worst for me because it's not just about improving mediocrity, a couple of hanged and that could have been a genuinely classic album. Such a missed opportunity it pains me. I don't think any of the later albums had the potential to be truely great, however you mess around with the tracks. I guess a case could be made for DOYS. Heathen Chemistry: The Hindu Times The Force Of Nature The Roller Stop Crying Your Heart Out Little By Little Idler's Dream Thank You For The Good Times You've Got the Heart Of a Star Born On a Different Cloud Just Getting Older That not loads better too? Obviously Liam would have to sing a couple of the Noel ones.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 25, 2017 19:10:19 GMT -5
I still cannot for the life of me work out why Noel chose to put A Quick Peep and Hung In A Bad Place on HC instead of Thank You For The Good Times and The Roller. I really hope we get a 2002 version of the Roller one day. The Roller really is meh sounding to me and a Instant Karma rip off. Hung in A Bad Place is better than Thank You For The Good Times imo. I think Hung in a Bad Place is actually a decent album track. Isn't gonna blow anyone away but im probably very much in a minority when i say i love the way the "you're on your own banana skin feet now" line is delivered. One of Gems better songs anyway. I think Thank You For The Good Times is the most Oasis sounding track that Noel Gallagher never written. I realise that set someone up to say FWIW so i mentioned it here first
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 25, 2017 19:11:39 GMT -5
Good to see that Noel is evolving.
His first album was the new songs plus some Oasis left overs, he had to release those songs some day anyway, also great b-sides from this period.
CY was a more consistent work, it was the album to solidify his solo career, that he is now a respectable solo artist without the Oasis shadow.
Now on his third album he can do anything, The Right Stuff on CY pointed a new direction that he could follow, but it seems that he is going even weirder than that, which is nice.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 25, 2017 19:11:50 GMT -5
I strongly disagree with anyone who says the Hindu Times demo lyrics are better than the final ones. The final ones work in every way you need for a single. The original lyrics were real. The released ones are completely fake. Depends what you're into I guess. Is this a reference to what cleavage i prefer?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 25, 2017 19:20:11 GMT -5
I still cannot for the life of me work out why Noel chose to put A Quick Peep and Hung In A Bad Place on HC instead of Thank You For The Good Times and The Roller. I really hope we get a 2002 version of the Roller one day. The Roller really is meh sounding to me and a Instant Karma rip off. Hung in A Bad Place is better than Thank You For The Good Times imo. Is a MASSIVE Stooges ripoff.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Sept 25, 2017 19:25:35 GMT -5
The Roller really is meh sounding to me and a Instant Karma rip off. Hung in A Bad Place is better than Thank You For The Good Times imo. Is a MASSIVE Stooges ripoff. Not as blatant as The Roller though.
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Post by thehyperbolist on Sept 25, 2017 20:22:42 GMT -5
Ha! So many Noel or Oasis threads, no matter what the original topic, end up discussing how those post BHN albums were missed opportunities due to track listing choices! I am fascinated by this issue!
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Post by PartlyCloudlike on Sept 25, 2017 21:02:08 GMT -5
HIABP was featured in a commercial for women's bras and panties.
Hung in a Bad Place - 1 Every other Heathen Chemistry track- 0
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 25, 2017 21:04:17 GMT -5
HIABP was featured in a commercial for women's bras and panties. Hung in a Bad Place - 1 Every other Heathen Chemistry track- 0 SCYHO was the anthem for the English squad during the 2002 World Cup.
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Post by cloudburster on Sept 25, 2017 21:23:03 GMT -5
HIABP was featured in a commercial for women's bras and panties. Hung in a Bad Place - 1 Every other Heathen Chemistry track- 0 SCYHO was the anthem for the English squad during the 2002 World Cup. Also featured in the Butterfly Effect. Fan of that film
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Post by oasis6 on Sept 25, 2017 21:35:50 GMT -5
HIABP was featured in a commercial for women's bras and panties. Hung in a Bad Place - 1 Every other Heathen Chemistry track- 0 Why would the bra company speak negatively about their own product by describing the breasts as being "hung in a bad place"?
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 25, 2017 22:57:24 GMT -5
HIABP is a decent track, but it could have been so much better if Liam didn't sound so bored on it, he doesn't sound like he mean it, but I have to say I love the guitar solo with the backing "aaahhhhhhhh".
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 25, 2017 23:47:12 GMT -5
Not sure how discussion on what promises to be Noel's most forward-looking LP has devolved into discussion about the abomination that is Heathen Chemistry.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Sept 26, 2017 0:30:55 GMT -5
This sounds the most intriguing album released by Noel since 1996, before BHN was released. I even think this may top sales of his previous 2 solo albums because it does sound so different, and may attract a much younger audience. Hell, this may go on to surpass many of the Oasis records in terms of sales numbers. And from the clips we've heard, it sounds like New Order and late 80's/early 90's Hacienda. Very cool!
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 26, 2017 1:11:06 GMT -5
59 days until Who Built The Moon? hits the shelves!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 26, 2017 2:51:12 GMT -5
This sounds the most intriguing album released by Noel since 1996, before BHN was released. I even think this may top sales of his previous 2 solo albums because it does sound so different, and may attract a much younger audience. Hell, this may go on to surpass many of the Oasis records in terms of sales numbers. And from the clips we've heard, it sounds like New Order and late 80's/early 90's Hacienda. Very cool! That would be great. Really needs to be promoted well though.
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Post by Treacle on Sept 26, 2017 3:09:24 GMT -5
I think this new poppy dance crap he's writing is awful. Granted I know he's writing music just for himself now, but compared to the music that got him here this new stuff isn't even remotely enjoyable.
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Post by Flayer on Sept 26, 2017 3:22:34 GMT -5
Well it's different and dance poppish etc. but i want to hear one full track fisrt to make my opinion. Also we have to remember that Heat of the Moment was also different and definitely not the good stuff on that album. Anyways really looking forward to hear the full album it could be huge if everything cliks together.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Sept 26, 2017 3:44:14 GMT -5
I think this new poppy dance crap he's writing is awful. Granted I know he's writing music just for himself now, but compared to the music that got him here this new stuff isn't even remotely enjoyable. Noel hasn't been writing many decent songs since Oasis Mk2, up until he went solo, when he suddenly discovered how to write decent tunes again. It is a little harsh to judge an entire album on a few clips, but personally I think it sounds great, and I'm really looking forward to hearing his new stuff, mainly because it is a big departure from what he has done before. Noel needs this, and actually the fans do too. This is far more progressive and exciting than shite like `Get off Yer High Horse Lady'.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 26, 2017 3:51:52 GMT -5
Noel needs this, and actually the fans do too. I'm not sure "the fans" wants that. Ive read a few reactions on facebook on his official page, and it's pretty divided. Just like here, many many many people are not having the clips. It will go to number one, but will it sell like crazy, that's not sure. Noel's probably got a big single in there (my bet is Keep On Reaching) to boost sales for christmas though.
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Post by raffo on Sept 26, 2017 4:01:32 GMT -5
Hard to tell exactly where he's going with this album yet, certainly sounds like it will be more out there.
I'll wait until a full track is released to start forming a proper opinion on it.
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Post by KhanMightSay on Sept 26, 2017 4:04:23 GMT -5
Agree with all this, except the 'dig' (see what I did there) at DOYS. A couple tracks are truly average. But when you have The Turning, TSOTL, I'm outta time, and Falling down, you can't diss too hard. I like all those songs but I don't like the interpretations of them - hence why I despise Sardy's work with Oasis and Noel. I almost love Falling Down - but I've always preferred the Chemical Brothers one over it, and I think if the structure of the album version had been implemented with that sound, it would have been more of a belter. I'm Outta Time is a beautiful tune - arguably Liam's best - but the 'Beatlefied' production and Lennon sample slits the throat of the song. They absolutely ruined it, and Gem Archer's typically derivative stance (worked heavily on that track; has that bloke ever listened to an album beyond 1975?) and Liam's Lennon obsession amongst Sardy's heavy handed production killed it. Beautiful song that should have been stripped to just an acoustic guitar and a twinkly bit of piano. The Turning is decent and is always one to listen to when it pops up on my iPod shuffle, but I've never felt an urge to listen to it. Again, maybe the murky heavy handed production has a lot to do with it - it deserves an Owen Morris wall of sound. Shock of the Lightning is excellent too but that type of adrenaline rush is too far and few between on that album. Again, far too many mid tempo tunes and not enough variance. Sardy is an absolute luddite and the most creatively docile producer on the face of the earth, only ever prompting Noel and the band into bad habits personally. All I can say is, thank god for David Holmes. The contrasts could not be greater. I wanna bring it away from fuckin' Heathen Chemistry! LOL I cannot STAND Dave Sardy either. I really think he ruined Oasis. From having a pointlessly inaudible choir in The Turning to ridiculously trebly vocals in Get Off Your High Horse...and various other poor decisions scattered throughout the record. I still listen to many songs off that album but only 'cause of the strength of the songwriting and performances. His god awful production just gets in the way of my enjoyment. And I don't get why Noel continued working with him and why he rated him so highly. I CANNOT WAIT FOR WHO BUILT THE MOON? This is what I wanted in 2011. So fascinated to hear this! Don't get me wrong, there have been some good tracks in that time and very slight inklings of a new direction but not a full blown album of a completely new sound. I always knew Noel was capable of this, he just needed the right guy to work with. And hopefully he will realise that his famous "stay in your comfort zone, that's what it's there for" attitude is, quite frankly, wrong! AND if this gets young people to finally hear about this Noel Gallagher fella and possibly act as a gateway into Oasis then I can't tell you how happy that will make me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 4:29:46 GMT -5
I have a very different opinion on DOYS. I think Noel was writing great songs then (Bag It Up, The Shock of the Lightning). Yes, there's also (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady, but it's still one of my favorite Oasis albums. After that his solo work hasn't been exciting for me, so I'm glad he's trying something new. I obviously can't know yet if I will like it or not, but at least I'm interested again.
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