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Post by northernsky on Sept 25, 2017 7:54:02 GMT -5
Hmmm... Can't help but feel a bit deflated after hearing the trailer. Probably overthinking it since it's just a few short clips. But still, been waiting very excitedly to FINALLY hear a new direction from Noel. And while yes, the vibe does seem different, nothing really grabbed me or made me more curious. That first bit reminded me of that song "Connected" by Stereo MCs...which I've always loathed. Another bit disturbingly reminded me of recent Coldplay.
Like I said, probably overthinking it. Best to wait for something more substantial. I think most of us agree Noel is long overdue for something new. But as a fan I'm just hoping to actually ENJOY whatever that "something" is. We shall see.
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Post by fleafly on Sept 25, 2017 7:54:38 GMT -5
I bet we'll get most of the stuff he had to ditch to make this album as bonus tracks and bsides
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 7:55:12 GMT -5
It sounds impressive, but let's see how good the songs are under all the psychedelia.
It already sounds like this is the album Noel wanted to make in 2011 before he totally bottled it.
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Post by Jim G. on Sept 25, 2017 8:00:31 GMT -5
I've always been up for Noel experimenting and trying new stuff in terms of sound and structure.
Yet, I have to say I don't know what to think of this clip. I specially liked the first song - supposedly Fort Knox - and quite liked Beautiful World. Not really a fan of the last one.
I fear that, since the songs were written in the studio - and Noel did say he struggled a bit to write the lyrics - they sound a bit repetitive.
And I still feel there's a bit of coldplay, U2 80's stuff going on there.
But I know they were just snnipets, right? Let's wait for the whole thing. Still curious!
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Post by frederickacquiesce on Sept 25, 2017 8:00:37 GMT -5
I don't like new Noel's "solo way road" and I don't think Liam will get a better album than As You Were so, actually, i really hope for an Oasis Reunion about 2018/2019
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Post by frogerz on Sept 25, 2017 8:01:15 GMT -5
I knew this was going to be different but didn't expect that. Honestly can't wait to hear a full track now.
Beautiful world is sounding great.
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Post by theseventwenty on Sept 25, 2017 8:02:24 GMT -5
Weird how Fort Knox is meant to be an instrumental and there's singing in it 🤷♂
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Post by dadrocker on Sept 25, 2017 8:03:54 GMT -5
I don't like new Noel's "solo way road" and I don't think Liam will get a better album than As You Were so, actually, i really hope for a Oasis Reunion about 2018/2019 Oasis is gone. Move on.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 25, 2017 8:07:35 GMT -5
It's gonna be war on here when both albums are released May i just say you can like experimental music and not like Noel's new record. It's not because an album is filled with weird sounds and structured-less tunes that it's necessarily a good record. Just like you can like simple guitar + voice music, and not like Liam's tunes that are already out there. Both can be good or bad.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Sept 25, 2017 8:17:06 GMT -5
It's gonna be war on here when both albums are released May i just say you can like experimental music and not like Noel's new record. It's not because an album is filled with weird sounds and structured-less tunes that it's necessarily a good record. Just like you can like simple guitar + voice music, and not like Liam's tunes that are already out there. Both can be good or bad. this is what im worried about. i wasnt as blown away as i was hoping to be by the preview...cant really judge on those clips tho. still excited.
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Post by NYR on Sept 25, 2017 8:22:06 GMT -5
Think i'll reserve judgement until i hear a full track, very interesting though, went ahead and preordered the white vinyl and single bundle from hmv That white vinyl looks slick… unfortunately HMV doesn't ship outside of the UK. Total BS.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 25, 2017 8:24:38 GMT -5
It's gonna be war on here when both albums are released May i just say you can like experimental music and not like Noel's new record. It's not because an album is filled with weird sounds and structured-less tunes that it's necessarily a good record. Just like you can like simple guitar + voice music, and not like Liam's tunes that are already out there. Both can be good or bad. This is absolutely true What makes me excited is that if the melodies are there the combo between Noel's usual songwriting and a more modern and experimental sound has a lot of potential
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 25, 2017 8:30:44 GMT -5
The little effects are so good. On Fort Knox for example, you get a real feel of alarm and planes flying over etc it's like a wake up start to the album. Then the "attention, attention" and the female vocals really highlights things. Very excited to hear what else is in store.
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Post by dazed on Sept 25, 2017 8:35:06 GMT -5
im just worried that every song sounds like filler, its got nice little bits in the production but the lyrics are generally verging onto some of noels weaker recordings
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Post by neila83 on Sept 25, 2017 8:41:43 GMT -5
It sounds impressive, but let's see how good the songs are under all the psychedelia. It already sounds like this is the album Noel wanted to make in 2011 before he totally bottled it. I'm not sure he just bottled it anymore, I used to, but now I think he probably picked entirely the wrong producers and just wasn't getting anything like the sound he wanted. AA do not produce this kind of music, and I think are probably a bit too out there to complement Noel's style, he goes better with a more beats based primal scream/chemical brothers type sound. It's a shame he didn't meet David Holmes earlier, including going back to SOTSOG, there are a looooot of wasted years with them mucking round doing it themselves (HC), then hiring Mr. Beige himself for the later years. It's like they lost all ambition, the SOTSOG reviews, building on the Be Here Now backlash really seemed to hammer Noel's confidence for years.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 25, 2017 8:49:13 GMT -5
I'll just remind you the original post: "The music on the trailer sounds shit"I am truly sorry that I offended you and the OP by not replying to this sublime piece of forum literature accordingly. I must admit that your post did it true justice. We must get off our high horses next time when we see such inspired words. I'm replying to what you've said, no one else. What has this got to do with For What It's Worth exactly? Stop yourself there mate. If you try and justify yourself or anyone else who likes FWIW or Liam in general you'll just start getting labelled with all kinds of shit.
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Post by bt95 on Sept 25, 2017 8:51:59 GMT -5
It's gonna be war on here when both albums are released May i just say you can like experimental music and not like Noel's new record. It's not because an album is filled with weird sounds and structured-less tunes that it's necessarily a good record. Just like you can like simple guitar + voice music, and not like Liam's tunes that are already out there. Both can be good or bad. This is absolutely true What makes me excited is that if the melodies are there the combo between Noel's usual songwriting and a more modern and experimental sound has a lot of potential That's the only thing concerning me in regards to the Holmes influence. Noel says Holmes kept telling him to ditch certain rifts that were like his staples. Hopefully Holmes hasn't pushed it too far that Noel's knack for a brilliant chorus and equally catchy verse are lost in all the loops and strange mixing techniques.
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Post by bt95 on Sept 25, 2017 8:53:31 GMT -5
Where abouts are you hearing the track samples? (beyond the trailer, i mean)? thx. Nowhere - there aren't any
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 25, 2017 8:55:45 GMT -5
I'm excited for Noel's album but you can already see that if you don't like what he's doing with this you will be accused of being stuck in 90s Oasis mode because it hasnt got a guitar solo or anthemic chorus. Our little Indie shithead brains clearly can't process anything else.
To be honest i don't start jumping for joy at any of the stuff in the trailer. When Noel has gone down the psychedelic (most over used word on here) route before its always ended up being imitation after imitation of Setting Sun really. Which is a fucking great song and i love Noels voice on it but that same falsetto voice over and over again COULD be potentially a bit lacklustre.
There's a clear vision for Noel to get away from that Oasis sound and start creating something creatively different (in the same way Weller has with each of his bands and solo work) and tbf he took a lot of shit for pulling out of the work with the AA so he deserves credit for doing this.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 25, 2017 8:56:30 GMT -5
It's gonna be war on here when both albums are released May i just say you can like experimental music and not like Noel's new record. It's not because an album is filled with weird sounds and structured-less tunes that it's necessarily a good record. Just like you can like simple guitar + voice music, and not like Liam's tunes that are already out there. Both can be good or bad. It doesn't have to be that way. If people don't go out of there way to shit on people's enthusiasm for the sake of it, criticise constructively and avoid repeating themselves by trying to impose their views as facts on others we could all probably get along pretty well.
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Post by Longtime Servant of the Gun on Sept 25, 2017 8:56:46 GMT -5
I AM AT MY WITS END!!!
For years weve been crying out for a real experimental album by Noel G.
We didnt get the perfect album in Giants or DOYS and we never got to hear AA.
We've finally got one in a few months and because we have a tiny snippet of a trailer that THANK GOD is a challenging listen and everything weve cried out for. People are spitting their dummies out saying
BuT AR JUS WANNA EAR aN E MinOr KhOrD
FFS
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Post by Jgrp on Sept 25, 2017 8:57:19 GMT -5
Yeah the previews kinda sound like those records although Primal Scream didn't drown their guitars and vocals in those silly 80s reverb and echo pedals. That's what i dislike about Noel latest efforts : the songs are there, the experimentation seems to have worked this time, but there's no need to hide everything with millions of effects. Recently, the lennon claypool delirium managed to make a pretty weird experimental record with a very dry sound, for instance. Reverb and echo is always a risk, coz you can end up sounding like Coldplay. I don't want to sound too nerdy here, but it might be like this because of Noel's recent equipment change. E.g. he's not using Marshall amps anymore, instead of this he switched to Hiwatts and Fenders. The former has no built-in reverb, so now Noel has to rely more on pedals. He also decided to go full-boutique with his gear, so you have stuff like Catalinbread Echorec delay or Strymon Flint reverb. It's not you usual "Boss reverb + Tubescreamer" setup anymore. Also, Fenders are well-known for their clean tones, so no wonder Noel wanted to experiment with his pedalboard. Let's all applaud the one who thinks he's a know it all. I recon if Noel released FWIW you'd say it's the best thing he's done in years. Likewise I think whatever Noel does you'll 'love'.
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Post by Rolo on Sept 25, 2017 8:59:05 GMT -5
It's gonna be war on here when both albums are released May i just say you can like experimental music and not like Noel's new record. It's not because an album is filled with weird sounds and structured-less tunes that it's necessarily a good record. Just like you can like simple guitar + voice music, and not like Liam's tunes that are already out there. Both can be good or bad. It doesn't have to be that way. If people don't go out of there way to shit on people's enthusiasm for the sake of it, criticise constructively and avoid repeating themselves by trying to impose their views as facts on others we could all probably get along pretty well. This exactly. It really doesn't have to be a contest, it's stupid. I'll be enjoying both.
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Post by revol on Sept 25, 2017 9:02:17 GMT -5
I don't want to sound too nerdy here, but it might be like this because of Noel's recent equipment change. E.g. he's not using Marshall amps anymore, instead of this he switched to Hiwatts and Fenders. The former has no built-in reverb, so now Noel has to rely more on pedals. He also decided to go full-boutique with his gear, so you have stuff like Catalinbread Echorec delay or Strymon Flint reverb. It's not you usual "Boss reverb + Tubescreamer" setup anymore. Also, Fenders are well-known for their clean tones, so no wonder Noel wanted to experiment with his pedalboard. Let's all applaud the one who thinks he's a know it all. I recon if Noel released FWIW you'd say it's the best thing he's done in years. Likewise I think whatever Noel does you'll 'love'. I agree, Catalinbread Echorec delay is a fucking great pedal.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 25, 2017 9:02:34 GMT -5
Okay I'm starting to really dig what I hear in those clip
GIVE ME THE SINGLE
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