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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 10:19:04 GMT -5
1. Riverman 2. In the Heat of the Moment 3. The Girl With X-Ray Eyes (David Holmes Re-Work) 4. Lock All the Doors 5. The Dying of the Light 6. The Right Stuff 7. While the Song Remains the Same 8. Do the Damage 9. You Know We Can't Go Back 10. Ballad of the Mighty I These is still really good. IMO Do The Damage should only be an opener and Noel was right to leave it off after Riverman came along. If there was something like A Quick Peep or an Intermission tune then it could work to 're-start' the album or open the second half, but it doesn't work otherwise. Now Freaky Teeth on the other hand...that could replace The Mexican. However The Mexican is a decent tune as seen from the live versions, it just needed to recorded and produced differently. Why was Riverman the opener? It's not a bad song, but probably the worst opener on a Gallagher album. Do the Damage was a great set opener.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 14, 2017 10:28:21 GMT -5
IMO Do The Damage should only be an opener and Noel was right to leave it off after Riverman came along. If there was something like A Quick Peep or an Intermission tune then it could work to 're-start' the album or open the second half, but it doesn't work otherwise. Now Freaky Teeth on the other hand...that could replace The Mexican. However The Mexican is a decent tune as seen from the live versions, it just needed to recorded and produced differently. Why was Riverman the opener? It's not a bad song, but probably the worst opener on a Gallagher album. Do the Damage was a great set opener. I actually love it as an opener. Works for me. Pretty good live. As is The Mexican. Surprisingly.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 14, 2017 10:30:18 GMT -5
1. Riverman 2. In the Heat of the Moment 3. The Girl With X-Ray Eyes (David Holmes Re-Work) 4. Lock All the Doors 5. The Dying of the Light 6. The Right Stuff 7. While the Song Remains the Same 8. Do the Damage 9. You Know We Can't Go Back 10. Ballad of the Mighty I These is still really good. IMO Do The Damage should only be an opener and Noel was right to leave it off after Riverman came along. If there was something like A Quick Peep or an Intermission tune then it could work to 're-start' the album or open the second half, but it doesn't work otherwise. Now Freaky Teeth on the other hand...that could replace The Mexican. However The Mexican is a decent tune as seen from the live versions, it just needed to recorded and produced differently. Lets be honest. Songs like Do The Damage and Freaky Teeth (definitely this one) should have been on Noel's debut. I'd gladly have tossed off Record Machine and Stop The Clocks. Don't care about them. Ironic too since in 2003 I'd have killed to have heard them. In 2017 its like........ehhhhhhh whatever. Hype Train.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 14, 2017 10:44:36 GMT -5
1. Riverman 2. In the Heat of the Moment 3. The Girl With X-Ray Eyes (David Holmes Re-Work) 4. Lock All the Doors 5. The Dying of the Light 6. The Right Stuff 7. While the Song Remains the Same 8. Do the Damage 9. You Know We Can't Go Back 10. Ballad of the Mighty I These is still really good. IMO Do The Damage should only be an opener and Noel was right to leave it off after Riverman came along. If there was something like A Quick Peep or an Intermission tune then it could work to 're-start' the album or open the second half, but it doesn't work otherwise. Now Freaky Teeth on the other hand...that could replace The Mexican. However The Mexican is a decent tune as seen from the live versions, it just needed to recorded and produced differently. In the age of shuffle, none of this really matters anymore. I don't think most people listen from begining to end of specific albums much anymore. Only vinyl lovers maybe.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 14, 2017 11:44:01 GMT -5
IMO Do The Damage should only be an opener and Noel was right to leave it off after Riverman came along. If there was something like A Quick Peep or an Intermission tune then it could work to 're-start' the album or open the second half, but it doesn't work otherwise. Now Freaky Teeth on the other hand...that could replace The Mexican. However The Mexican is a decent tune as seen from the live versions, it just needed to recorded and produced differently. In the age of shuffle, none of this really matters anymore. I don't think most people listen from begining to end of specific albums much anymore. Only vinyl lovers maybe. That is why I think Arcade Fire made a mistake using a trick gimmick to "loop" their new album. Unless you listen to it on loop on iTunes the gimmick doesn't work. It doesn't work on CD, big pause between last track and going back to track 1 and it certainly doesn't work on vinyl. Plus people shuffle listen all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 11:51:29 GMT -5
IMO Do The Damage should only be an opener and Noel was right to leave it off after Riverman came along. If there was something like A Quick Peep or an Intermission tune then it could work to 're-start' the album or open the second half, but it doesn't work otherwise. Now Freaky Teeth on the other hand...that could replace The Mexican. However The Mexican is a decent tune as seen from the live versions, it just needed to recorded and produced differently. In the age of shuffle, none of this really matters anymore. I don't think most people listen from begining to end of specific albums much anymore. Only vinyl lovers maybe. If this is the case, then why bother with making an "album" at all? Why not record tracks and release them whenever?
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Post by discworld on Aug 14, 2017 12:35:44 GMT -5
Be Here Now : 20 years in one week. Do you think he can use that to make an announcement for his third album? Not likely seeing as Noel generally hates BHN. If it happens, it will be coincidence and nothing more. I can see Noel using this anniversary for the same reason : he doesn't care.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 14, 2017 13:57:18 GMT -5
In the age of shuffle, none of this really matters anymore. I don't think most people listen from begining to end of specific albums much anymore. Only vinyl lovers maybe. If this is the case, then why bother with making an "album" at all? Why not record tracks and release them whenever? A running order is just a choice because labels want 10/12 tracks. It doesn't, most of the time, mean anything (concept albums excluded). Although sometimes they are perfect, i also change them a lot. I'd rather think of albums with recording sessions in mind, with all the tracks recorded during the same era. It kinda give the whole picture, instead of just the "snapshot" that is the record. Let's take Sgt Pepper for instance: they released Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields before, but they were recorded just the same as the other tracks. Most of the great albums of the 90s could be double albums as well, easily.
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Post by World71R on Aug 14, 2017 23:40:26 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday was his 80s album. NGHFB 1 was a mix of 60s and 70s obsession. So next one : Back to the 90s ? If we're talking about an album in the style of 90s U2 with the spirit of 90s Oasis, then yes, definitely yes. That would be amazing.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2017 8:40:33 GMT -5
In case there are any gear heads out there, a picture of Noel's current pedal board was posted about a month ago, and it looks like he's using a healthy mix of looping pedals, delays, tremelos, overdrive, fuzz:
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2017 9:02:43 GMT -5
Top line of the board left-to-right:
Strymon Flint Tremelo/Reverb, paradox effects architect, Echorec delay, Adineko oil can delay, JHS fuzz pedal, JHS overdrive, klon centaur overdrive, loops, Keeley Steak and Eggs overdrive/compression/over drive, tuner (possibly a poly tune),(the last pedal I can't identify).
Second line:
Timeline loops pedal, 30ms Double tracker (basically tape delay), gig rig pedal switcher, Sonuus Wahoo wah w/ loops, remote loopy, (and the last I can't identify)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 15, 2017 9:04:25 GMT -5
Top line of the board left-to-right: Strymon Flint Tremelo/Reverb, (the second I can't identify), Echorec delay, Adineko oil can delay, JHS fuzz pedal, JHS overdrive, loops, Keeley Steak and Eggs overdrive/compression/over drive, (the last two pedals I can't identify). Second line: Timeline loops pedal, 30ms Double tracker (basically tape delay), gig rig pedal switcher, Sonuus Wahoo wah w/ loops, another looper, (and the last I can't identify)
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2017 9:25:26 GMT -5
Top line of the board left-to-right: Strymon Flint Tremelo/Reverb, (the second I can't identify), Echorec delay, Adineko oil can delay, JHS fuzz pedal, JHS overdrive, loops, Keeley Steak and Eggs overdrive/compression/over drive, (the last two pedals I can't identify). Second line: Timeline loops pedal, 30ms Double tracker (basically tape delay), gig rig pedal switcher, Sonuus Wahoo wah w/ loops, another looper, (and the last I can't identify) If it were my board I would use it for a combination of either solos or atmospherics or both. He's made a few changes from his board: paradox architect pedal is a really out there pedal for Noel's taste imo, he's added A LOT of tone for solos and for looping. Judging by past pictures of his board, from 2015, this one has been completely overhauled. There are only 3 pedals that are in common with his past board. As another comparison, back in 2011, Noel made note that his pedal board had become much more minimalist because he wasn't playing much lead. This is the opposite of minimalist (still small compared to some guitarists, but with a lot more capabilities than his previous boards). This might say something about the album we're about to get. The fact that he thinks he needs more tone for solos, more atmospherics, and looping capabilities could say a lot
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Post by Velo on Aug 15, 2017 11:32:01 GMT -5
Pretty sure he posted this on his Instagram a year or so right when he got his new guitars. It looks great though and judging from the live videos, has made a big difference.
Really wish he'd bust out the Jazzmaster tho!
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Post by carlober on Aug 15, 2017 11:54:06 GMT -5
In case there are any gear heads out there, a picture of Noel's current pedal board was posted about a month ago, and it looks like he's using a healthy mix of looping pedals, delays, tremelos, overdrive, fuzz: Yep, Noel himself posted that pic on Instagram in October last year. As you say there are some very cool and interesting pedal choices which make me pretty hyped for the new record I wrote a detailed post about all the pedals back then (might not be 100% accurate and some of the descriptions are overly simplistic, but still...) That pedalboard shot he just posted on his Instagram is really interesting. I'll admit I'm quite excited now as it looks like he has pretty much revolutionized his setup. There are some very curious and unusual choices in there, so hopes are that Noel is really getting a little bit more ambitious with this record! I've just wasted the last hour and a half or so at trying to identify all the pedals. I know the list will be magically lifted from here and will end up on some mainstream website without any credit, but someone's gotta do the hard work CAUTION: GEEK CONTENT AHEAD! From the top left corner: 1) Strymon Flint: basically a vintage tremolo + classic reverb in one unit. 2) Paradox Architect: now this is interesting... it's another reverb unit but a lot more lush, washy and psychedelic, also thanks to the included modulation. I'm really curios to hear what Noel can bring out of this one. 3) Catalinbread Echorec: a very unique delay pedal that Noel has been using since the CY tour. Think of David Gilmour and his almost percussive echoing sound ( Run Like Hell comes to mind). 4) Catalinbread Adineko: it's a delay, very "thick"-sounding from the demos I've heard. It emulates the rotating-oil can mechanism from the '60s, which gives it the slightly viscous, dense feel. Noel was used to the classic Boss digital (very clean and perfect-sounding) delays so this is an interesting departure. 5) JHS Muffuletta Fuzz: a versatile, very vintage/'70s sounding fuzz, inspired by various Big Muffs fuzz pedals. It can go from Dinosaur Jr. to My Bloody Valentine-ish heavy dense fuzz. Another interesting addition to Noel's pedalboard! 6) JHS Superbolt: it's an overdrive pedal. This probably replaces his trusty Ibanez Tubescreamer which has been Noel's go-to overdrive since the very early Oasis days. 7) Klon Centaur: another overdrive. Actually this is a bit like the Holy Grail of overdrive pedals. Very rare and very expensive, famous and sought-after for its rich, warm sound. 8) JHS/Keeley Steak N Eggs: this is two pedals in one. It combines a compressor and another overdrive (how many does he need?), which is actually called " Morning Glory". No jokes! 9) Tuner pedal: I can't identify the model, but I'm pretty sure this is just a guitar tuner. 10) Keeley 30ms: it's a double tracker with embedded reverb. In short, it can create a double voicing, a bit like if two different guitars were playing at once. Double-voicing (with the second one slightly detuned) is one of Johnny Marr's "secrets" that shape his signature sound. 11) Strymon Timelapse: this is probably the most seen delay unit on pro pedalboards. Everybody uses it, it's become almost a golden standard and Noel's been using it since the CY tour. Super versatile. 12) Sonuus Wahoo: a wah pedal had been missing in Noel's pedalboard for years! Think of the Hello outro, the mad solos during the BHN tour... or Johnny Squire's guitar sound in Breaking Into Heaven. Yep, that's the wah. This pedal is actually more than a wah, since it has customizable filters and other things, but my guess is that Noel will be using it mainly as a traditional wah-wah pedal.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2017 12:46:35 GMT -5
carlober the two that most interest me are the Paradox Architect and Catalinbread Adineko. Both of those, especially the Paradox, are not pedals I would remotely associate with Noel's sound. Even the stuff off of Chasing Yesterday don't seem to have much use for the Paradox Architect. I gotta think that was bought with a specific song in mind. It's a little boutique to be used for any song in his set. It really wouldn't surprise me if a song from his new album uses it. The Catalinbread Adineko is interesting because it's so lush and eerie in its delay and echo. Once again, nothing from CY really comes to mind as something that would need this type of pedal (maybe WTSRTS....maybe). I figuring he'll use the JHS Muffuletta Fuzz to maybe beef up some of the other Oasis songs? Seeing as Russell did say that Noel had fallen in love with fuzz lately, maybe he might bring in one of the more rocking Oasis songs. But it would be interesting if that could a sign of some heavier songs on this new album. Lastly, the Sonuus Wahoo is another interesting addition seeing as Noel had all but departed from using a wah, as you mentioned. That would automatically make me assume that he'll be soloing more. Unless he has some super funk we don't know about
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 15, 2017 13:06:45 GMT -5
carlober the two that most interest me are the Paradox Architect and Catalinbread Adineko. Both of those, especially the Paradox, are not pedals I would remotely associate with Noel's sound. Even the stuff off of Chasing Yesterday don't seem to have much use for the Paradox Architect. I gotta think that was bought with a specific song in mind. It's a little boutique to be used for any song in his set. It really wouldn't surprise me if a song from his new album uses it. The Catalinbread Adineko is interesting because it's so lush and eerie in its delay and echo. Once again, nothing from CY really comes to mind as something that would need this type of pedal (maybe WTSRTS....maybe). I figuring he'll use the JHS Muffuletta Fuzz to maybe beef up some of the other Oasis songs? Seeing as Russell did say that Noel had fallen in love with fuzz lately, maybe he might bring in one of the more rocking Oasis songs. But it would be interesting if that could a sign of some heavier songs on this new album. Lastly, the Sonuus Wahoo is another interesting addition seeing as Noel had all but departed from using a wah, as you mentioned. That would automatically make me assume that he'll be soloing more. Unless he has some super funk we don't know about
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Post by carlober on Aug 15, 2017 14:41:35 GMT -5
carlober the two that most interest me are the Paradox Architect and Catalinbread Adineko. Both of those, especially the Paradox, are not pedals I would remotely associate with Noel's sound. Even the stuff off of Chasing Yesterday don't seem to have much use for the Paradox Architect. I gotta think that was bought with a specific song in mind. It's a little boutique to be used for any song in his set. It really wouldn't surprise me if a song from his new album uses it. The Catalinbread Adineko is interesting because it's so lush and eerie in its delay and echo. Once again, nothing from CY really comes to mind as something that would need this type of pedal (maybe WTSRTS....maybe). I figuring he'll use the JHS Muffuletta Fuzz to maybe beef up some of the other Oasis songs? Seeing as Russell did say that Noel had fallen in love with fuzz lately, maybe he might bring in one of the more rocking Oasis songs. But it would be interesting if that could a sign of some heavier songs on this new album. Lastly, the Sonuus Wahoo is another interesting addition seeing as Noel had all but departed from using a wah, as you mentioned. That would automatically make me assume that he'll be soloing more. Unless he has some super funk we don't know about I totally agree. Both the Paradox and the Adineko seem to be fantastic for creating the kind of lush, dense, modulated-reverb-heavy soundscapes that I personally love. I hope we'll get some of that on the album! More airy, atmospheric tunes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 15:44:08 GMT -5
In case there are any gear heads out there, a picture of Noel's current pedal board was posted about a month ago, and it looks like he's using a healthy mix of looping pedals, delays, tremelos, overdrive, fuzz: Someone is selling that same amp for 800โฌ near me. I'm looking for a new amp and I kinda have the money so I'm tempted haha It's weird that I'm waiting this new album just as much as Liam's Never thought I'd say this!
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 15, 2017 16:14:55 GMT -5
In case there are any gear heads out there, a picture of Noel's current pedal board was posted about a month ago, and it looks like he's using a healthy mix of looping pedals, delays, tremelos, overdrive, fuzz: Someone is selling that same amp for 800โฌ near me. I'm looking for a new amp and I kinda have the money so I'm tempted haha It's weird that I'm waiting this new album just as much as Liam's Never thought I'd say this! 30+ brand new Gallagher songs are all about to hit us in a matter of months ๐ Crazy times ahead!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 16:24:23 GMT -5
30+ brand new Gallagher songs are all about to hit us in a matter of months ๐ Crazy times ahead! 30+ Where did you hear this?
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 15, 2017 16:34:51 GMT -5
30+ brand new Gallagher songs are all about to hit us in a matter of months ๐ Crazy times ahead! 30+ Where did you hear this? I'm talking Noel and Liams albums combined.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 16:35:54 GMT -5
30+ Where did you hear this? I'm talking Noel and Liams albums combined. Ah okay, got it. Phew, don't scare me like that I was caught in a double-disc Noel Gallagher fantasy for a few wonderful minutes!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 16, 2017 2:08:02 GMT -5
Noel is playing the WE ARE MANCHESTER benefit concert on September 9th. I'd imagine maybe new material comes out around that time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 9:22:59 GMT -5
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