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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 17:57:20 GMT -5
I haven't at all. As an album - an entire 11 song piece - it works better than As You Were, IMO - an album which is a lot more 'poppy' than this one. That isn't a bad thing. They're different. Liam couldn't have done this. He had to do his thing. Noel's done that thing. He's done a different thing. Yep, it's not all great, and I find it interesting that everybody seems to have different low points of this album, but the high points for me reach a more soaring musical moment than the high points of AYW. I don't know why you have to make a sweeping statement like the above. Makes you look foolish. And you’re very entitled to your opinion. You're obviously entitled to yours as well! It's what forums are for after all
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 21, 2017 17:59:18 GMT -5
It wasn't laughable at all. Someone who puts together a thoughtful and eloquent post whether you agree with it or not does not make it laughable. Its musch more likely it implies something you don't like. Please explain to me the cultural relevancy of "As You Were" with the younger audience besides teenager longing for the days of Oasis. And you know that teenagers are only longing for the days of Oasis rather than thinking its a good record? There seems to be youthful element going to the gigs but I can't be sure of the reasons because I'm not 18, I don't think you can be catagorical about the reasons either. As far as what walterglass say's about it having pop sensibilities, it does. Just look at the list of what the songs are reminding people of. From James Bond themes to Start Me Up to Holy Mountain being rooted in 60's pop music and motown. Has Noel expanded his influences? Certainly, and the record is much better for it but there is nothing laughable in that. Even people outside us peasants have noticed, the final paragraph of the Q review sums this up well.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 21, 2017 18:02:01 GMT -5
Haven't listened to the album, would appreciate everyone not talking about it 'til Friday.... Thanks. Avoid the topic by having an extremely long and luxurious bubble bath until Friday- Thanks
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2017 18:10:53 GMT -5
Noel sounds like he is having fun and it shows in this album. Good for him.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 21, 2017 18:25:59 GMT -5
You have cultural relevance when you are part of the zeitgeist, Which the 2017 Liam Gallagher is. Very much so. Noel isn’t, he’s a peripheral player. I understand my opinions aren’t going to be popular on this forum of all places. But I also think a lot on here are in a position of adulation with Noel that would lead them to struggle to be objective at a time of heightened excitement. Hang on, are you having a pop at someone for giving their opinion on an album you haven't even listened to? Laughable
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Post by thewalruswaspaul on Nov 21, 2017 18:39:17 GMT -5
Don't know if this has already been said, but I'm in Australia and just got an email from my preorder seller saying the release has been pushed back to December 1st, seems a bit odd (and annoying) to change it 2 days before it was supposed to release
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 21, 2017 18:50:34 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 21, 2017 18:55:14 GMT -5
Finally giving this behemoth a listen.
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Post by plaskins1 on Nov 21, 2017 19:01:23 GMT -5
Anyone else hear All my people/All mankind in the interludes?
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 21, 2017 19:05:22 GMT -5
Hang on, are you having a pop at someone for giving their opinion on an album you haven't even listened to? Laughable I know grandiose BS when I see it. Saying As You Were is culturally relevant or part of the zeitgeist is just plain funny.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 21, 2017 19:06:37 GMT -5
Album needs more scissors.
Charlotte, where are you? Let’s be ‘avin’ you!
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Post by NicOasis on Nov 21, 2017 19:14:20 GMT -5
Album needs more scissors. Charlotte, where are you? Let’s be ‘avin’ you! She was cut out.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 21, 2017 19:32:02 GMT -5
Hang on, are you having a pop at someone for giving their opinion on an album you haven't even listened to? Laughable I know grandiose BS when I see it. Saying As You Were is culturally relevant or part of the zeitgeist is just plain funny. I said 2017 Liam Gallagher is culturally relevant. And he is. At least here in the UK. And that AYW is part of that relevance. And I’m completely correct to point that out. Playing a starring role at Glastonbury, smashing Reading, wrapping One Love Up, a number one album, sell-out stadium tour, Finsbury, captivating a new generation. There’s little more he could do to illustrate his relevance. You may not like it but thems the breaks. Noel May turn the tables with album 4. Who knows. Also, gifs. No offence but I think it’s a cheap form of response. Just trying to give you a nod in the right direction. Discussion is better.
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 21, 2017 19:38:01 GMT -5
I know grandiose BS when I see it. Saying As You Were is culturally relevant or part of the zeitgeist is just plain funny. I said 2017 Liam Gallagher is culturally relevant. And he is. At least here in the UK. And that AYW is part of that relevance. And I’m completely correct to point that out. Playing a starring role at Glastonbury, smashing Reading, wrapping One Love Up, a number one album, sell-out stadium tour, Finsbury, captivating a new generation. There’s little more he could do to illustrate his relevance. You may not like it but thems the breaks. Noel May turn the tables with album 4. Who knows. Also, gifs. No offence but I think it’s a cheap form of response. Just trying to give you a nod in the right direction. Discussion is better. Noel Gallagher could open Glastonbury, sell out Finsbury Park, etc, if he wanted to. He'll probably do that and more next year. I'm also sure the UK youth will appreciate his new album just as much as AYW. AYW's success is no different compared to Noel's first two albums.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 21, 2017 19:40:07 GMT -5
I said 2017 Liam Gallagher is culturally relevant. And he is. At least here in the UK. And that AYW is part of that relevance. And I’m completely correct to point that out. Playing a starring role at Glastonbury, smashing Reading, wrapping One Love Up, a number one album, sell-out stadium tour, Finsbury, captivating a new generation. There’s little more he could do to illustrate his relevance. You may not like it but thems the breaks. Noel May turn the tables with album 4. Who knows. Also, gifs. No offence but I think it’s a cheap form of response. Just trying to give you a nod in the right direction. Discussion is better. Noel Gallagher could open Glastonbury, sell out Finsbury Park, etc, if he wanted to. He'll probably do that and more next year. I'm also sure the UK youth will appreciate his new album just as much as AYW. AYW's success is no different compared to Noel's first two albums. He can’t sell out, amongst others, Newcastle arena ATM.
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 21, 2017 19:41:26 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher could open Glastonbury, sell out Finsbury Park, etc, if he wanted to. He'll probably do that and more next year. I'm also sure the UK youth will appreciate his new album just as much as AYW. AYW's success is no different compared to Noel's first two albums. He can’t sell out, amongst others, Newcastle arena ATM. I'm sure I could find a concert where Liam didn't sell out the place.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 21, 2017 19:44:39 GMT -5
He can’t sell out, amongst others, Newcastle arena ATM. I'm sure I could find a concert where Liam didn't sell out the place. Oh, is that the time? 👍🏻
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 21, 2017 19:48:50 GMT -5
I'm sure I could find a concert where Liam didn't sell out the place. Oh, is that the time? 👍🏻 House of Blues Belsonic Manchester Cricket Club
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 21, 2017 19:52:44 GMT -5
I know grandiose BS when I see it. Saying As You Were is culturally relevant or part of the zeitgeist is just plain funny. I said 2017 Liam Gallagher is culturally relevant. And he is. At least here in the UK. Are you sure you don't mean 1997? He wasn't even "culturally relevant" anymore in 2007, never mind 2017. Probably not since about 1998 in all honesty. Popular culture moved on pretty quick from the whole Britpop era. It died quicker than it happened and Oasis went with it in terms of influencing culture. They remained famous, sold records and big concerts but that was down to a large loyal fanbase and people attending gigs for a good night out. By the time SOTSOG was released, the times had changed. Oasis were no longer "cool" anymore. Not that it means anything to be "cool" but you know what i mean. I think some Oasis fans have a difficult time accepting this. Y'know how when you're a kid and some parents listen to some bands and the kids think it's embarrassing and not cool. Well that's how young people view Oasis when their parents in their 40's listen to them while re-living their 20's. Liam and Noel are about as relevant in popular culture in 2017 as Rod Stewart was to popular culture 1997. Let that one sink in.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 21, 2017 19:54:19 GMT -5
House of Blues Belsonic Manchester Cricket Club You’re aware I was talking about the UK? As for Old Trafford, it’s capacity is huge and it’s a show that runs on from already phenomenal ticket sales. Sold out nights aplenty. Noel, on the other hand, has struggled to sell out shows for a standard arena tour. His standing has slipped. It happens.
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Post by chumflub on Nov 21, 2017 19:56:26 GMT -5
Anyone else hear All my people/All mankind in the interludes? Omg yes! So glad I'm not the only one. Wonder what the remix might sound like
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Post by GreedyTune on Nov 21, 2017 23:41:53 GMT -5
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Post by Manualex on Nov 21, 2017 23:46:36 GMT -5
besides Holy Mountain is there anything that isnt written by Noel Gallagher?
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Post by GreedyTune on Nov 21, 2017 23:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Nov 22, 2017 0:14:23 GMT -5
Did we previously know for sure that Sara was the cover model?
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