This is the problem for the people who say, "let's wait and see."

This is who he is. He's not going to all of the sudden see the light. This is the person he is. These are his flaws. These will remain his flaws.

His temperament is totally unfit for the White House. As should have been obvious to anyone with half a brain during the election.

Closing your eyes and wishing it will get better, won't make it better. We have a loose cannon for a President. And the idea that the people around him will calm him, is still the most laughable statement of this election next to emails having some importance.

What you see is what you get.

I did notice in the 'Washington Post' article on the immigration based directives aside from the Mexican border wall being estimated at $20,000,000,000 also contained this reference-
I have to say I have lost any hope I had the man was simply talking the most absurdist policies to gain votes from ignorant types- he intends to carry out his slogans to the worst possible conclusions from what I can see.

As to clashes I would assume any flash point is going to be in the South China Sea, although I still cannot see open conflict as aside from the military cost for both sides the two countries are currently so economically dependant on each other that it would devastate both economies. I know the Chinese are focusing on BRICS and other emerging African/Asian markets but that will take time and in some cases is politically sensitive due to the aforementioned South China Sea amongst other issues.

It also depends with the man being as unpredictable as he is carrying out any withdrawal of US Forces in Far East Asia in favour perhaps of selling arms to Japan and South Korea for example, itself a dangerous move given that a lack of opposing presence for the US will see China and Russia exert economic, military and political influence in the region which in turn will lose these allies and perhaps markets to the USA. He has talked about wastage in the military and obviously there has for a long time been massive budgets as part of the whole complex, but whether he will actually understand any implications for whatever course of action he intends to follow remains to be seen.

So in summary Donald Trump has nothing to back up his claims thus far and the only fact in all of this is his own people are registered to vote in multiple states?

It's also a trait of narcissism- I know I have posted the narcissist check list, etc. in dark humour already but it is another symptom to deny reality and attack any facts that go against their warped view of said reality.

Haaretz did an article on the 7th January about Netanyahu and Trump with regards the latter to allegations of Russian involvement against the Clinton campaign- Like all narcissists, Trump and Netanyahu deny reality and crush their critics

Yeah, completely. :confused:

This.

On a related note I've seen Ed Miliband call for Theresa May to push Donald Trump on his domestic and foreign policies, in particular the Paris Climate Agreement, whilst Jeremy Corbyn asked if she would question him on his misogyny- predictably she deflected most of the questioning whilst bleating on about the "special relationship" between the two countries, trying to score points off Corbyn as she did so- CNN Article

The idea that any US President would take direction from the UK Government is questionable at the best of times, but in the case of Donald Trump is anyone in the UK seriously expecting any European or other leader for that matter to influence the man in a positive way? At best he will essentially ignore her and any other critics, and at worst it will push him into making even more disastrous decisions led by his delusions of infallibility, ego and warped view of the world.

As spaneli has pointed out the man is a loose cannon, and with the potential to cause unthinkable damage both in the USA and around the world.

yeah, go ahead Donald

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/steve-bannon-is-registered-to-vote-in-two-states.html

Trump now trying to start a war with Mexico on Twitter, Mexico the US ally. WTF is going on?! I swear this is going to end up in a World War.

In terms of Donald himself not a great deal TBH as I am a) in the UK and b) short of a reenactment of Dallas 1963 (NG type disclaimer- "for legal reasons can I just say I am not actually advocating that") I am not really sure barring protests against his plans en masse what more can be done at the present, unless something changes that makes his position too untenable, be it business, personal or political.

As to the rise of fascist and hard line right wing politics in Europe personally I am involved with a number of local political organisations as despite having differing opinions on more long term politics we need to unite against an immediate and very real threat to society. I am not saying we are the solution alone because we simply aren't, but I would hope that like those US citizens who didn't want Donald Trump and are prepared to confront some of his most destructive and negative policies, we can confront similar ideologies here by working with others across the UK and indeed Europe to make small inroads at least in the beginning.

Where I agree with what I think you are saying is words do indeed need to be backed by actions, and the protests witnessed against the man are IMO a part of that. This is a unique time because at any other point in recent history if an Asian or East European leader for example had said we are demonising elements of society, building walls and reversing progress than I think the USA would have been part of the group of countries condemning such actions.

Now however we have as the leader of militarily and politically the strongest nation on earth along with one of the two largest economies a loose cannon, as others have aptly described him. This is not like so many Western political debates a matter of differing points of view sometimes blown up into hysteria simply because sides cannot agree, the man and his policies in this instance are genuinely frightening for a large number of people living and working in the USA. He is also an influence for hard line right wing types elsewhere who will see his victory as proof of what can be achieved by such methods, and therefore indirectly he causes problems in that respect.

This is why IMO pressure and scrutiny must be applied to his tenure in office however long that may be to try and at least fight some of his more outright discriminatory ideas and policies in order to protect freedoms mostly gained during the previous century.

Apologies if I have rambled or missed any of the point @kitjenson (although as you have previously pointed out in other threads you expect long winded replies from me! ) As always my best regards to all the people in the USA and indeed worldwide who are standing up for the hope of a better world