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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 20, 2015 22:00:46 GMT -5
Ok boredom is here... The Mrs is watching Madame Secretay so here goes... this is just my opinion. SOTSOG 5* NONE 4* FITB / GLIO / WFL / GP / WDIAGW 3* SMC / RIO 2* ICSAL 1* LJ / PYMWYMI Score: 30 HC 5* SB 4* THT / SCYHO / LBL 3* FON / HIABP / PAITM 2* SIL / BOADC 1* AQP / BM Score: 32 DBTT 5* TIOBI 4* LYLA / POTQ / TUTS 3* MF / LLAB / LTBL 2* TMOS / ABWR / KTDA 1* GGTIA Score: 33 DOYS 5* SOTL / FD 4* BIU / TT / WFTR / IOT 3* GOYHL / TBWTL 2* AGN / SO 1* THE NATURE OF FULL BLOWN AIDS Score: 37 Madame secretary finished 20 minutes go now Haha your disclaimers legitimately made me laugh. I like the novel scoring system actually. Although you're far to generous with HC and far too harsh for DBTT. I do like how you scored DOYS though, mind. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by matt on Aug 20, 2015 22:37:06 GMT -5
SOTSOG has aged the best - the production (apart from on the rockers) is genuinely good for a change, and Liam's vocals were still shit hot - but the songs are just not there. I'll go for DBTT, but it's by no means a great record. Dig Out Your Soul is weak and and Heathen Chemistry is awful. Exactly this, word for word.
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Post by World71R on Aug 20, 2015 22:37:14 GMT -5
Ok boredom is here... The Mrs is watching Madame Secretay so here goes... this is just my opinion. SOTSOG 5* NONE 4* FITB / GLIO / WFL / GP / WDIAGW 3* SMC / RIO 2* ICSAL 1* LJ / PYMWYMI Score: 30 Using your ranking system: SOTSOG 5* GP/RIO (everything past the 2nd run of the chorus is glorious imo) 4* GLIO/WFL/FITB/WDIAG 3* ICSAL 2* SMC/LJ 1* PYMWYMI Score: 34 HC 5* SCYHO 4* LBL/SB/THT 3* HIABP/FON/BOADC 2* PAITM/AQP 1* BM/SIL Score: 32 DBTT 5* TIOBI/Lyla/TUTS 4* LTBL/POTQ/GGTIA 3* KTDA/LLAB 2* MF/TMOS/ABWR Score: 39 DOYS 5* TSOTL/FD/BIU 4* TT/IOT 3* TBWTL/WFTR 2* GOYHHL/SO 1* AGN/TNOR Score: 35 Not to be biased and use only my own data, but this proves that Standing on the Shoulders of Giants and Dig Out Your Soul suffered from many of the same problems as each other. Basically, they both suffer from really shitty track listing choices. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by matt on Aug 20, 2015 22:41:40 GMT -5
Don't Believe The Truth and Standing are both solid, listenable albums. The other two can 'get tae fuck'!
But comparing these post-90s Oasis albums is like a tallest dwarf competition. In the music world, all of them are mere footnotes in the history of Oasis. They had their chance to do something interesting, but they completely blew it. Even in my music collection, they don't garner second thought - quite a shocking drop off when considering the 90s stuff is regularly spun week in, week out. And that's actually quite sad.
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Post by World71R on Aug 21, 2015 0:09:55 GMT -5
Don't Believe The Truth and Standing are both solid, listenable albums. The other two can 'get tae fuck'! But comparing these post-90s Oasis albums is like a tallest dwarf competition. In the music world, all of them are mere footnotes in the history of Oasis. They had their chance to do something interesting, but they completely blew it. Even in my music collection, they don't garner second thought - quite a shocking drop off when considering the 90s stuff is regularly spun week in, week out. And that's actually quite sad. I agree with this to a certain point. Where 90s Oasis's brilliance lies in great albums and live performances, the 00s Oasis's brilliance lies in great moments and stretches where the band hits their stride, like any other band. That's not to say 00s Oasis weren't worth a fuck, it just shows that 90s Oasis was much more than just a band, and it was going to be hard for 00s Oasis to live up to that, no matter what, but they did a decent job at doing so. Still, the questionable track lists, restraints on experimentation, and degradation of Liam's voice, which led to many meh-to-bad performances, as a result, looms largely over 00s Oasis, especially with the way they went out.
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Post by glider on Aug 21, 2015 0:10:55 GMT -5
Great scoring system. One I can get across. Decided to do all the studio albums.
DM 5* Rock N Roll Star / Live Forever /Slide Away / Bring it On Down / Columbia / Digsy's Dinner 4* Cigs and Alcohol / Up in the Sky / Supersonic / Married With Children 3* Shakermaker 2* None 1* None Score: 49
WTSMG 5* Hello / DLBIA / Morning Glory / Some Might Say / Cast No Shadow / Champagne Supernova 4* She's Electric / Wonderwall / Hey Now! 3* None 2* Roll With It 1* None Score: 44
BHN 5* D'You Know What I Mean? / Stand by Me / I Hope I Think I Know / Don't Go Away / All Around the World 4* My Big Mouth / It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) / Magic Pie / Fade In-Out 3* The Girl In the Dirty Shirt / Be Here Now 2* AATW Reprise 1* None Score: 49
SOTSOG
5* Gas Panic! / Roll It Over / Go Let It Out 4* Where Did It All Go Wrong? / Who Feels Love? 3* Sunday Morning Call / Little James / F*ckin' In The Bushes 2* I Can See A Liar 1* PYMWYMI Score: 35
HC 5* None 4* SCYHO / The Hindu Times 3* Songbird / BOADC / HIABP 2* None 1* Better Man / She Is Love / A Quick Peep / PIATM / Force Of Nature Score: 22
DBTT 5* TIOBI 4* Lyla / Part Of The Queue / Turn Up The Sun 3* Let There Be Love / Keep The Dream Alive / GGTIA 2* None 1* Love Like A Bomb / The Meaning Of Soul /A Bell Will Ring / Mucky Fingers Score: 30
DOYS 5* Falling Down / The Turning 4* Bag It Up / WFTR / TSOTL 3* TBWTL / I'm Outta Time / Soldier On 2* None 1* AGN / HHL/ TNOR Score: 34
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Post by World71R on Aug 21, 2015 22:41:30 GMT -5
Pre-BHN:
DM: 5*: Live Forever/Rock 'N' Roll Star/Bring it on Down/Slide Away/Supersonic 4*: Columbia/Up in the Sky/Digsy's Dinner/Married with Children 3*: Shakermaker 2*: Cigarettes & Alcohol (Album version kinda sucks imho) Score: 46
WTSMG: 5*: Champagne Supernova/Don't Look Back in Anger/Wonderwall/Some Might Say/Morning Glory 4*: Hello/She's Electric/Cast No Shadow/Hey Now! (soo catchy!) 3*: Roll With It Score: 44
BHN: 5*: D'You Know What I Mean?/All Around the World/Stand By Me/I Hope I Think I Know 4*: Don't Go Away/It's Getting Better (Man!!) 3*: Fade In-Out/Be Here Now/The Girl in the Dirty Shirt/My Big Mouth (it comes and goes on favorability) 2*: Magic Pie (great melody, but it feels like such a self-parody that I really don't like it) Score: 42
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 21, 2015 23:15:06 GMT -5
I'm thinking of creating a new thread where we rank all the albums as such (see above). It's too late here for me to do it tonight, but I think it would be cool to have a thread devoted to it.
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Post by beentherenow on Aug 24, 2015 11:04:03 GMT -5
As per the scoring system above (but I'll do an average because albums with more tracks will obviously score more)
DM 5* Rock 'n' Roll Star/Live Forever/Bring It On Down/Slide Away 4* Columbia/Supersonic/Married With Childen 3* Shakermaker/Up in the Sky/Cigs&Alc/Digsy's Dinner/
Score 44 Average 4
MG 5* Wonderwall/Some Might Say/Champagne Supernova 4* Cast No Shadow/Morning Glory 3* Hello/Don't Look Back in Anger 2* Roll With It/Hey Now 1* She's Electric
Score 34 Average 3.4
BHN 5* Stand By Me/Don't Go Away 4* My Big Mouth/I Hope I Think I Know/Fade In-Out/All Around The World 3* D'you Know What I Mean?/Girl In A Dirty Shirt/ It's Getting Better Man 2* Magic Pie/Be Here Now/Reprise
Score 41 Average 3.42
SOTSOG 5* Gas Panic!/Roll It Over 4* Fuckin In The Bushes/Go Let It Out/Where Did It All Go Wrong/Who Feels Love? 3* Sunday Morning Call 2* PYMWYMI/Little James/I Can See a Liar
Score 35 Average 3.5
HC 5* None 4* Stop Crying Your Heart Out/Songbird/Born on a Different Cloud 3* Hindu Times/Little By Little 2* Hung in a Bad Place 1* Force of Nature/A Quick Peep/(Probably) All in the Mind/She Is Love/Better Man
Score 25 Average 2.27
DBTT 5* The Importance of Being Idol 4* Turn up The Sun 3* Mucky Fingers/Lyla/Part of The Queue 2* Love Like a Bomb/Meaning of Soul/Guess God Thinks I'm Able/Keep The Dream Alive/Let There Be Love 1* A Bell Will Ring
Score 29 Average 2.63
DOYS 5* The Turning 4* Bag It Up/Waiting For The Rapture/Shock of The Lightning 3* Falling Down/To Be Where There's Life 2* I'm Outta Time/GOYHHL/Nature of Reality 1* Soldier On/Ain't Got Nothing
Score 31 Average 2.81
It goes in the exact order of my preference anyway so at least I know the method works!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 12:12:02 GMT -5
Great ranking system, let's go for it
DEFINITELY MAYBE 5* Live Forever / Slide Away / Supersonic 4* Rock 'n' Roll Star / Columbia / Cigarettes & Alcohol / Bring it On Down 3* Shakermaker / Up in the Sky / Married With Children / Digsys Dinner TOTAL: 43
(WHAT'S THE STORY) MORNING GLORY? 5* Don't Look Back In Anger / Champagne Supernova / Wonderwall / Some Might Say / Morning Glory 4* Cast No Shadow 3* Hello / Roll With It / Hey Now! / She's Electric 2* Swamp Song 1/2 TOTAL: 46
BE HERE NOW 5* D'You Know What I Mean? / All Around the World / Stand By Me / Don't Go Away 4* My Big Mouth / Fade In-Out / It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) / I Hope, I Think, I Know 3* Magic Pie / Be Here Now / The Girl in the Dirty Shirt / All Around the World (Reprise) TOTAL: 48
STANDING ON THE SHOULDER OF GIANTS 5* Gas Panic! / Go Let it Out / Where Did it All Go Wrong? 4* Who Feels Love? / Roll it Over / Fuckin' in the Bushes 3* Sunday Morning Call / Little James 2* Put Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is / I Can See a Liar TOTAL: 38
HEATHEN CHEMISTRY 3* Stop Crying Your Heart Out / Little By Little / The Hindu Times / Songbird 2* The Rest TOTAL: 26
DON'T BELIEVE THE TRUTH 5* The Importance of Being Idle 4* N/A 3* The Rest TOTAL: 32
DIG OUT YOUR SOUL 5* Falling Down 4* The Shock of the Lightning / I'm Outta Time / To Be Where There's Life / The Turning / Bag It Up / Waiting For the Rapture 3* (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady / Soldier On 2* Ain't Got Nothin' / The Nature of Reality TOTAL: 39
OVERALL RANKING: 1) Be Here Now [48] 2) (What's the Story) Morning Glory? [46] 3) Definitely Maybe [43] 4) Dig Out Your Soul [39] 5) Standing on the Shoulder of Giants [38] 6) Don't Believe the Truth [32] 7) Heathen Chemistry [29]
Pretty accurate, the only change would be swapping Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory around.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 24, 2015 13:02:31 GMT -5
Thought I'd do all the all the studio albums to really drive home the point I made the other day about none of the post-BHN albums being any good...
Definitely Maybe 5* Rock 'n' Roll Star; Shakermaker; Live Forever; Supersonic; Bring It On Down; Cigarettes & Alcohol; Slide Away 4* Up In The Sky; Married With Children 3* Columbia 2* Digsy's Dinner 1* Average score = 4.4
(What's The Story) Morning Glory? 5* Hello; Roll With It; Wonderwall; Don't Look Back In Anger; Some Might Say; Cast No Shadow; She's Electric; Morning Glory; Champagne Supernova 4* Hey Now! 3* 2* 1* Average score = 4.9
Be Here Now 5* D'You Know What I Mean?; My Big Mouth; Stand By Me; The Girl In The Dirty Shirt; Don't Go Away; All Around The World 4* I Hope, I Think, I Know; Be Here Now; It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) 3* Magic Pie; Fade In-Out 2* 1* Average score = 4.4
Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants 5* Fuckin' In The Bushes; Go Let It Out; Where Did It All Go Wrong? 4* Who Feels Love?; Gas Panic!; Roll It Over 3* Sunday Morning Call 2* 1* Put Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is; Little James; I Can See A Liar Average score = 3.3
Heathen Chemistry 5* Stop Crying Your Heart Out 4* Songbird 3* Force of Nature; Little By Little; Born On A Different Cloud 2* The Hindu Times; Hung In A Bad Place; She is Love; Better Man 1* A Quick Peep; (Probably) All In The Mind Average score = 2.5
Don't Believe The Truth 5* Lyla; The Importance Of Being Idle 4* Turn Up The Sun; Guess God Thinks I'm Abel; Part Of The Queue; Let There Be Love 3* Love Like A Bomb; Keep The Dream Alive 2* A Bell Will Ring 1* Mucky Fingers; The Meaning Of Soul Average score = 3.3
Dig Out Your Soul 5* I'm Outta Time; Falling Down 4* The Turning; Waiting For The Rapture 3* Bag It Up; The Shock Of The Lightning; To Be Where There's Life 2* (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady; Soldier On 1* Ain't Got Nothin'; The Nature Of Reality Average score = 3
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 24, 2015 13:47:37 GMT -5
Always hated marking things out of 5. It's just no where near precise enough for my likings. 10 is decent, but a breakdown of 20 over 10 would be preferable. Thank god you can unlock half stars on iTunes.
Definitely Maybe: 51.5/55 - 4.7 Stars 5 Star: RNRS, LF, Columbia, Supersonic, C&A 4.5 Star: Shakermaker, UITS, BIOD, SA, MWC 4 Star: DD
(What's The Story) Morning Glory?: 45/50 - 4.5 Stars 5 Star: Wonderwall, DLBIA, SMS, MG, CS 4.5 Star: RWI 4 Star: Hello, CNS, SE 3.5 Star: HN!
Be Here Now: 46.5/60 - 3.9 Stars 5 Star: DYKWIM? 4.5 Star: MBM, MP, FIO 4 Star IHITIK, BHN, AATW, IGB(M!!) 3.5 Star DGA 3 Star SBM, TGITDS 2.5 Star AATW(R)
Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants: 39/50 - 3.9 Stars 5 Star: GLIO 4.5 Star: FITB, GP 4 Star: WDIAGW?, PYMWYMI, ICSAL 3.5 Star: WFL, RIO 3 Star: LJ, SMC
Heathen Chemistry: 39.5/55 - 3.6 Stars 5 Star: THT 4.5 Star: FON, SCYHO, LBL 4 Star: SB, SIL 3.5 Star: HIBP 2.5 Star: BOADC, AQP, BM 2 Star: (P)AITM)
Don't Believe The Truth: 41/55 - 3.7 Stars 5 Star: TIOBI 4.5 Star: Lyla 4 Star: TUTS, MF, LTBL 3.5 Star: TMOS, GGTIA, POTQ, KTDA 3 Star: LLAB 2.5 Star: ABWR
Dig Out Your Soul: 44/55 - 4 Stars 5 Star: TSOTL, FD 4.5 Star: BIU 4 Star: TT, WFTR, IOT, TBWTL, 3.5 Star: (GOYHHL), TNOR, SO 3 Star: AGN
Not too far off... I feel like I've been pretty generous with quite a few, and a little harsh on one or two, but it's pretty decent. This would be more accurate though - A slow downward trend before a final bout of form:
DM - 4.8 (WTS)MG? - 4.5 BHN - 3.7 SOTSOG - 3.5 HC - 3.3 DBTT - 3.1 DOYS - 3.9
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