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Post by carlober on Apr 27, 2016 6:37:00 GMT -5
Was just discussing the Coldplay concert we're going to in June with my friend. She told me Fun is now her favourite Coldplay song. Yeah, time to start looking for new friends.. Fun? Come on, that song is dull as fuck. How can anybody say "mmm, I'd like to listen to Fun from Coldplay"? I wouldn't rank it among the worst tracks from AHFOD, but only because we got pure crap like Hymn for the Weekend and X Marks the Spot in the same album. (X Marks the Spot. Fuckin' hell!!!) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 8:54:15 GMT -5
I really hate Hymn For The Weekend. I sort of like Adventure Of A Lifetime.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 27, 2016 9:58:10 GMT -5
Chris Martin is no better than Judas. Holy cow! this guy's getting biblical with his Coldplay hate. I'm gonna have to up my game... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 10:29:37 GMT -5
Was just discussing the Coldplay concert we're going to in June with my friend. She told me Fun is now her favourite Coldplay song. Yeah, time to start looking for new friends.. Ahah reminds me of when I say I'm an Oasis fan, people always say "oh Wonderwall !! So you should like Coldplay ?? You dig that tune ?" (gorillas coming on the screen...) |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 27, 2016 10:33:33 GMT -5
Chris Martin is no better than Judas. Holy cow! this guy's getting biblical with his Coldplay hate. I'm gonna have to up my game... You could always use some Satanic spells from some Pagan book  |
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 27, 2016 10:35:46 GMT -5
Chris Martin is no better than Judas. Holy cow! this guy's getting biblical with his Coldplay hate. I'm gonna have to up my game... You have to have loved to hate that much. To stand a chance of reaching the biblical rage of an Oldplay fan, you must first verse yourself in the Old Testaments. That is, Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 27, 2016 11:08:21 GMT -5
Holy cow! this guy's getting biblical with his Coldplay hate. I'm gonna have to up my game... You have to have loved to hate that much. To stand a chance of reaching the biblical rage of an Oldplay fan, you must first verse yourself in the Old Testaments. That is, Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head. Nice try, t'Escapist, but I think we both know that's not going to happen. If what you say is true, I'll just have to leave the hating to you professionals from now on. |
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Post by glider on Apr 27, 2016 11:30:26 GMT -5
Was just discussing the Coldplay concert we're going to in June with my friend. She told me Fun is now her favourite Coldplay song. Yeah, time to start looking for new friends.. Fun? Come on, that song is dull as fuck. How can anybody say "mmm, I'd like to listen to Fun from Coldplay"? I wouldn't rank it among the worst tracks from AHFOD, but only because we got pure crap like Hymn for the Weekend and X Marks the Spot in the same album. (X Marks the Spot. Fuckin' hell!!!) Every track is the worst track from that album. Pretty sad when the only song on the album I find decent is a crummy U2 tribute act (A Head Full of Dreams). And not like its Zoo TV era U2 - like Atomic Bomb era U2. |
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 27, 2016 11:52:08 GMT -5
You have to have loved to hate that much. To stand a chance of reaching the biblical rage of an Oldplay fan, you must first verse yourself in the Old Testaments. That is, Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head. Nice try, t'Escapist, but I think we both know that's not going to happen. If what you say is true, I'll just have to leave the hating to you professionals from now on. Foiled again! Do you really not like even songs like The Scientist or Clocks? I know taste is subjective and individual, but I can't imagine having no emotional reaction to when the guitar comes in after the final "I'm going back to the start...". |
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Post by glider on Apr 27, 2016 12:09:43 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Coldplay but theyknowwhatimean did you happen to listen to OK Computer yet?  |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 27, 2016 13:19:08 GMT -5
Nice try, t'Escapist, but I think we both know that's not going to happen. If what you say is true, I'll just have to leave the hating to you professionals from now on. Foiled again! Do you really not like even songs like The Scientist or Clocks? I know taste is subjective and individual, but I can't imagine having no emotional reaction to when the guitar comes in after the final "I'm going back to the start...". They're both perfectly fine - Clocks in particular, is a lovely little tune - but I've never found myself in a mood where I simply MUST listen to Coldplay. I always see them as the musical equivalent of the kind of films or telly shows from the 70s that get shown on ITV 2 on a Sunday afternoon, that you watch simply because they're on and you can't be arsed changing the channel or getting up and doing something else; they're inoffensive enough, and you enjoy them a relative amount, but if you were never to see them again, you wouldn't be that bothered. That's how I see Coldplay. If one of their better songs comes on the radio, I won't turn the thing off in disgust; but I wouldn't rush home to search for the song on YouTube, either. Why that is, I don't know. But I suspect it's at least in part due to that pillock Martin on vocal duties. And I know what you might be thinking, because I'm usually one of the worst for kicking back against people who claim not to like a band because they "don't like the singers voice", myself, but I REALLY fucking hate Martin's voice. Like, really. And The Scientist is one of the most difficult for me to get through. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 27, 2016 13:22:58 GMT -5
I ran across a Coldplay song called Gravity the other day. Why wasn't this gem on any of their albums?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 27, 2016 13:27:19 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Coldplay but theyknowwhatimean did you happen to listen to OK Computer yet? Wish every conversation started this way. And no, afraid not. Well, I heard it once, last Summer, when I had Apple Music on free trial, but not properly. Got a few albums on the go at the moment, but when they're out the way, I'll definitely give it a listen. |
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 27, 2016 13:59:54 GMT -5
Foiled again! Do you really not like even songs like The Scientist or Clocks? I know taste is subjective and individual, but I can't imagine having no emotional reaction to when the guitar comes in after the final "I'm going back to the start...". They're both perfectly fine - Clocks in particular, is a lovely little tune - but I've never found myself in a mood where I simply MUST listen to Coldplay. I always see them as the musical equivalent of the kind of films or telly shows from the 70s that get shown on ITV 2 on a Sunday afternoon, that you watch simply because they're on and you can't be arsed changing the channel or getting up and doing something else; they're inoffensive enough, and you enjoy them a relative amount, but if you were never to see them again, you wouldn't be that bothered. That's how I see Coldplay. If one of their better songs comes on the radio, I won't turn the thing off in disgust; but I wouldn't rush home to search for the song on YouTube, either. Why that is, I don't know. But I suspect it's at least in part due to that pillock Martin on vocal duties. And I know what you might be thinking, because I'm usually one of the worst for kicking back against people who claim not to like a band because they "don't like the singers voice", myself, but I REALLY fucking hate Martin's voice. Like, really. And The Scientist is one of the most difficult for me to get through. Fair enough, I know a lot of people agree with you that Coldplay are essentially inessential. Then again, a lot of people think that about Oasis too  . As Brian Eno might say, I think their songs are more triggers for experiences than they are artworks with tangible or definitive meaning. They're so insanely melodic that they can be emotionally affecting in a beautifully simple way (that is, if you don't have a burning hate for the wide-eyed lead singer...). And once you've had one of those experiences - for me, listening to Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends for the first time, and thinking it was perhaps the most beautifully nostalgic explosion of colour I'd ever heard - that's when Coldplay becomes essential. Haha, that's actually one aspect of Coldplay I've not heard attacked before - I thought Martin's voice was at worst forgettable... What is it about it you dislike? If it's the earnest, bleeding heart thing - what do you think of his voice on tracks like Yes? |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Apr 27, 2016 15:36:22 GMT -5
Up&Up came on my phone on shuffle earlier today, and I must say, it's still a very good tune. Yes, the production is awful, and the muffling of the guitar solo is more egregious than a similar horror on Noel's Record Machine, but I would easily consider it one of the greatest Coldplay songs of the decade. Though it ain't a scratch on Amsterdam or Everything's Not Lost. But fuck the rest of the album. 100% shite.  |
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Post by carlober on Apr 27, 2016 16:04:43 GMT -5
Up&Up came on my phone on shuffle earlier today, and I must say, it's still a very good tune. Yes, the production is awful, and the muffling of the guitar solo is more egregious than a similar horror on Noel's Record Machine, but I would easily consider it one of the greatest Coldplay songs of the decade. Though it ain't a scratch on Amsterdam or Everything's Not Lost. But fuck the rest of the album. 100% shite. The title track, Birds and Up&Up are the only tracks worth listening. The rest is as bad as the worst tunes by Maroon 5 (which, by the way, are fucking shite). There's a great song in Up&Up buried under the cheesy production, the awful drums and the muffled solo. The fact that it manages to be really good even in its current fucked-up form makes me wonder how amazing it would have been if executed properly... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 19:52:00 GMT -5
I don't think that most of the songs are really that bad, but an album full of those songs is unlistenable.
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Post by World71R on Apr 27, 2016 22:01:50 GMT -5
I don't think that most of the songs are really that bad, but an album full of those songs is unlistenable. I agree. HFTW and Army of One/X Marks the Spot are really the only bad tracks on the album, while you have two extremely mediocre songs (Fun, AD), a couple of nice pop songs (Everglow, Adventure of a Lifetime (without the "woo-hoo"s)), some good nods to U2 that feature some good writing (AHFOD, Birds), and one song that pretty much blows everything else out of the water (Up&Up). It's not as bad as people make it out to be, but it's still a far cry from what they're capable of, even today (Ex: Their gigs). |
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Post by glider on Apr 27, 2016 23:41:34 GMT -5
This album is terrible. I'm sorry World71R lol I mean, I tried, like really wanted to like Up & Up as much as others here, but the album version is just hideous. Production is terrible, the drumming is muffled, barely hear the guitar solo buried in the wierd synth effects, nothing sounds raw at all. These songs don't hit me with lyrical power like their older material whatsoever, absolutely none of them. I can see why people like it though, but it is very mediocre for me. Give me Coldplay doing the Smiths again! |
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Post by violethill on Apr 28, 2016 6:25:00 GMT -5
Chris Martin is now lip-syncing Clocks on the tour....
This mans talent for self-sabotage is something to marvel at.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 28, 2016 6:29:28 GMT -5
They're both perfectly fine - Clocks in particular, is a lovely little tune - but I've never found myself in a mood where I simply MUST listen to Coldplay. I always see them as the musical equivalent of the kind of films or telly shows from the 70s that get shown on ITV 2 on a Sunday afternoon, that you watch simply because they're on and you can't be arsed changing the channel or getting up and doing something else; they're inoffensive enough, and you enjoy them a relative amount, but if you were never to see them again, you wouldn't be that bothered. That's how I see Coldplay. If one of their better songs comes on the radio, I won't turn the thing off in disgust; but I wouldn't rush home to search for the song on YouTube, either. Why that is, I don't know. But I suspect it's at least in part due to that pillock Martin on vocal duties. And I know what you might be thinking, because I'm usually one of the worst for kicking back against people who claim not to like a band because they "don't like the singers voice", myself, but I REALLY fucking hate Martin's voice. Like, really. And The Scientist is one of the most difficult for me to get through. Fair enough, I know a lot of people agree with you that Coldplay are essentially inessential. Then again, a lot of people think that about Oasis too . As Brian Eno might say, I think their songs are more triggers for experiences than they are artworks with tangible or definitive meaning. They're so insanely melodic that they can be emotionally affecting in a beautifully simple way (that is, if you don't have a burning hate for the wide-eyed lead singer...). And once you've had one of those experiences - for me, listening to Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends for the first time, and thinking it was perhaps the most beautifully nostalgic explosion of colour I'd ever heard - that's when Coldplay becomes essential. Haha, that's actually one aspect of Coldplay I've not heard attacked before - I thought Martin's voice was at worst forgettable... What is it about it you dislike? If it's the earnest, bleeding heart thing - what do you think of his voice on tracks like Yes? And there's the snag... You see, I often find it hard to describe why it is I like or dislike music. I can praise or slag off a song or a band with generic terms that could be attributed to anything that has been created, be it a movie or a pack of stickers, but when I try and go any deeper and talk about the textures something has, or what emotions it stirs up in me (as it seems so important to do, according to the writings of Pitchfork magazine), I always draw a blank. And so for those bits, I'll often seek out the writings of professional music journos who share my opinion and, well, nab their best material. I mean, seriously, look at any post I've ever written about Liam's voice on Wonderwall, and I bet you I describe it as being like a "foghorn" (NME), and his singing style as just "barking the words out" ( gdforever - but we'll forget about that one). But they are two completely valid and I think, quite poetic ways of describing Liam's voice, that I would never have thought of in a hundred years. But with Martin, no bugger but me seems bothered by his voice. And it's maddening, because I can't stand the thing. If pushed I guess I could say I thought it was insipid and that he sounds always as if he's on the verge of hitting an absolutely appalling flat note, but I know that wouldn't cover it. There's something else about it that grates with me. It's like Liam's voice on that last Beady Eye record, or this girls voice: They both hit the notes, and the songs themselves are fine, but something just doesn't sit right with me. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, enough on Martin, let's talk Eno! You heard many of his records? |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Apr 28, 2016 17:52:30 GMT -5
This album is terrible. I'm sorry World71R lol I mean, I tried, like really wanted to like Up & Up as much as others here, but the album version is just hideous. Production is terrible, the drumming is muffled, barely hear the guitar solo buried in the wierd synth effects, nothing sounds raw at all. These songs don't hit me with lyrical power like their older material whatsoever, absolutely none of them. I can see why people like it though, but it is very mediocre for me. Give me Coldplay doing the Smiths again! I like Up&Up but I agree with a lot of what you said about it. Stargate fucked it up worse than Sardy did IIHAG. The lyrics are also absolutely terrible (especially that "orange peel" one! Seriously wtf). But one thing I've learned from Oasis is that terrible lyrics don't always ruin good songs, and, to me, Up&Up's aren't that bad, but still cringe-worthy. |
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Post by glider on Apr 28, 2016 17:54:56 GMT -5
This album is terrible. I'm sorry World71R lol I mean, I tried, like really wanted to like Up & Up as much as others here, but the album version is just hideous. Production is terrible, the drumming is muffled, barely hear the guitar solo buried in the wierd synth effects, nothing sounds raw at all. These songs don't hit me with lyrical power like their older material whatsoever, absolutely none of them. I can see why people like it though, but it is very mediocre for me. Give me Coldplay doing the Smiths again! I like Up&Up but iI agree with a lot of what you said about it. Stargate fucked it up worse than Sardy did IIHAG. The lyrics are also absolutely terrible (especially that "orange peel" one! Seriously wtf). But one thing I've learned from Oasis is that terrible lyrics don't always ruin good songs, and, to me, Up&Up's aren't that bad, but still cringe-worthy. I just can't stand overly sappy songs. Coldplay's act in last few years has been "don't worry about all the crises and death and destruction in the world, just believe in love and look at all these colors!" which is rose-tinted glasses porn. |
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Post by World71R on Apr 28, 2016 21:24:16 GMT -5
This album is terrible. I'm sorry World71R lol I mean, I tried, like really wanted to like Up & Up as much as others here, but the album version is just hideous. Production is terrible, the drumming is muffled, barely hear the guitar solo buried in the wierd synth effects, nothing sounds raw at all. These songs don't hit me with lyrical power like their older material whatsoever, absolutely none of them. I can see why people like it though, but it is very mediocre for me. Give me Coldplay doing the Smiths again! It's alright.  I totally get what you mean, and I think it has a lot to do with the unbelievably awful production job that Stargate performed on the album. Judging by the volume of the drums in the two guitar solos, I don't think those guys have ever heard of the term "ride the fader", at all. The sound of the electric guitars is muffled, like you said, and what's even worse is that they have an acoustic guitar mixed in there with the cymbals to make it even more annoying. If it were more like the live version, it would've been sooo much better, with more of a focus on the four guys and their instruments, along with better mixing that takes that focus one step further. Really, all of the album needed it, with less of a focus on the synthesizers and electronic touches, besides HFTW, which is the only song that does well with the overall production, but that's about where it ends with the goodness of the song (besides the piano intro and the brass section). |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Apr 28, 2016 23:30:52 GMT -5
Give me Coldplay doing the Smiths again! Speaking of this, it's only recently that I've realized how much The Smiths can be heard in Coldplay, especially on AROBTTH and X&Y. People like to compare Jonny Buckland's playing style to The Edge, but honestly, Buckland took as much from Johnny Marr as he did U2. While The Hardest Part is probably the easiest example, it can be seen on songs like AROBTTH's title track, and even b-sides like Murder. If you were to pick the 10 most influential songs to Oldplay, I'd say that Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before has to be on the list. In fact, the song below is clearly an homage to that Smiths classic. |
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