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Post by spaneli on Nov 16, 2015 18:25:38 GMT -5
Agreed. But there will be ZERO. AND I MEAN ZERO. HYPE. IN THE USA. ALL I SAID you never knew his masterplan working with chris martin / coldplay on a track beyonce is on could be spun massively in his favour. If chris martin does a 'favour' on one of his tunes for album 3, Uses a well known producer or them for remixes like CY but on a more populist level he could get some traction next record there .. sure he's not arsed either way really and he'll enjoy playing whatever venues he wants tho If Coldplay releases the track with Noel on it as say the second single, judging by their track record, the first two singles from any Coldplay album has charted since A Rush of Blood to the Head in America. It would probably be decent boom for Noel to feature on any charted single in the U.S.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 16, 2015 18:30:37 GMT -5
you never knew his masterplan working with chris martin / coldplay on a track beyonce is on could be spun massively in his favour. If chris martin does a 'favour' on one of his tunes for album 3, Uses a well known producer or them for remixes like CY but on a more populist level he could get some traction next record there .. sure he's not arsed either way really and he'll enjoy playing whatever venues he wants tho If Coldplay releases the track with Noel on it as say the second single, judging by their track record, the first two singles from any Coldplay album has charted since A Rush of Blood to the Head in America. It would probably be decent boom for Noel to feature on any charted single in the U.S. think others have confirmed its got beyonce on so could be the 9th track and itll chart in the u.s
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Post by spaneli on Nov 16, 2015 18:46:36 GMT -5
If Coldplay releases the track with Noel on it as say the second single, judging by their track record, the first two singles from any Coldplay album has charted since A Rush of Blood to the Head in America. It would probably be decent boom for Noel to feature on any charted single in the U.S. think others have confirmed its got beyonce on so could be the 9th track and itll chart in the u.s Any Coldplay single Noel would be associated with, which charted charted higher than #55, would officially be the larger single Noel's been involved with since Don't Look Back in Anger (at least, if only the pure Hot 100 is counted). Last time a Noel related single charted on the Hot 100 was Shock of the Lightning (#93). The drought is real.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 16, 2015 18:56:49 GMT -5
think others have confirmed its got beyonce on so could be the 9th track and itll chart in the u.s Any Coldplay single Noel would be associated with, which charted charted higher than #55, would officially be the larger single Noel's been involved with since Don't Look Back in Anger (at least, if only the pure Hot 100 is counted). Last time a Noel related single charted on the Hot 100 was Shock of the Lightning (#93). The drought is real. like noel said (parapharsed) a feature is bullshit every track in chart doing it.. he'd not even get a featured in the U.s cos of beyonce but like said before cant believe the press wouldnt make the jay z / beyonce link for the track and thus the press so get press and would chart high because of beyonce prob even more than coldplay let alone i him. we know he's not got any higher since the 90's
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Post by mkoasis on Nov 16, 2015 21:25:32 GMT -5
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Nov 24, 2015 12:33:34 GMT -5
think others have confirmed its got beyonce on so could be the 9th track and itll chart in the u.s Any Coldplay single Noel would be associated with, which charted charted higher than #55, would officially be the larger single Noel's been involved with since Don't Look Back in Anger (at least, if only the pure Hot 100 is counted). Last time a Noel related single charted on the Hot 100 was Shock of the Lightning (#93). The drought is real. So fucking what? The singles charts are largely irrelevant to any white rock star over 40. Its past time Noel's fanbase get past the charts and stop even bringing them up. Its not about that anymore and it never should've been. FUCK. THE. CHARTS. It doesn't matter to Noel anymore and it shouldn't matter to us.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 24, 2015 13:20:31 GMT -5
Any Coldplay single Noel would be associated with, which charted charted higher than #55, would officially be the larger single Noel's been involved with since Don't Look Back in Anger (at least, if only the pure Hot 100 is counted). Last time a Noel related single charted on the Hot 100 was Shock of the Lightning (#93). The drought is real. So fucking what? The singles charts are largely irrelevant to any white rock star over 40. Its past time Noel's fanbase get past the charts and stop even bringing them up. Its not about that anymore and it never should've been. FUCK. THE. CHARTS. It doesn't matter to Noel anymore and it shouldn't matter to us. He cares a lot more about the charts than most of us are willing to admit. He says that the charts are fucked, but that didn't stop him from touting the success of What a Life or his album sales last go round. Sales and chart success matter to Noel, mostly because he came from an Era where they might have mattered. Honestly, if he didn't care about the charts then he wouldn't comment on them at all, but he's always commenting on the charts as if he perpetually wakes up with a chart update. Try to find an interview where he doesn't mention the charts on cue. It came off as the wise old rock God at first, but now it's tiring. Essentially, there was a myth that beady eye didn't care about album sales or success, but that got dispelled pretty quickly. Noel is no different. When you've had chart success your whole career, and the ethos of your former band was to be the biggest babd in the world, then it comes off as b.s. when you deface the charts in every interview possible. It comes off as a guy who hasn't been high in the charts in a while, and would welcome being back, but can't be back so he can't stop talking about it. Long of the short of it, if noel didn't care about the charts, then he wouldn't mention them.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 24, 2015 13:31:08 GMT -5
So fucking what? The singles charts are largely irrelevant to any white rock star over 40. Its past time Noel's fanbase get past the charts and stop even bringing them up. Its not about that anymore and it never should've been. FUCK. THE. CHARTS. It doesn't matter to Noel anymore and it shouldn't matter to us. He cares a lot more about the charts than most of us are willing to admit. He says that the charts are fucked, but that didn't stop him from touting the success of What a Life or his album sales last go round. Sales and chart success matter to Noel, mostly because he came from an Era where they might have mattered. Honestly, if he didn't care about the charts then he wouldn't comment on them at all, but he's always commenting on the charts as if he perpetually wakes up with a chart update. Try to find an interview where he doesn't mention the charts on cue. It came off as the wise old rock God at first, but now it's tiring. Essentially, there was a myth that beady eye didn't care about album sales or success, but that got dispelled pretty quickly. Noel is no different. When you've had chart success your whole career, and the ethos of your former band was to be the biggest babd in the world, then it comes off as b.s. when you deface the charts in every interview possible. It comes off as a guy who hasn't been high in the charts in a while, and would welcome being back, but can't be back so he can't stop talking about it. Long of the short of it, if noel didn't care about the charts, then he wouldn't mention them. And when you read the interview you realise he doesn't I think he cares,everybody does,but even as a solo artist he's got two number 1s album under his belt,a double platinum certification and a possible platinum one,a couple of top 40 singles...I doubt he's too much bothered about the charts,at least in the UK,what you read in his interviews is just old man nostalgia
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 24, 2015 14:39:35 GMT -5
I think he does care about the charts, but specifically the album charts. And that's what he should focus on tbh. I doubt he's too bothered about not being in the singles chart. He's had 8 #1 hits and a total of what was it, 22 top 10 hits or something? He knows he'll not be back and he doesn't seem too fussed, otherwise he and his management wouldn't fuck up the way they do now.
He does come off as a bitter old frustrated rock star wannabe when he discusses the charts, but he's right when he says most of it is shit/MOR, or when he says it all sounds the same. Now when you or me say it it's no big deal and people agree, but when someone like Noel says it you think "there he goes again, frustrated and bitter because he can't get the same success he had 20 years ago"
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Nov 26, 2015 2:57:47 GMT -5
So fucking what? The singles charts are largely irrelevant to any white rock star over 40. Its past time Noel's fanbase get past the charts and stop even bringing them up. Its not about that anymore and it never should've been. FUCK. THE. CHARTS. It doesn't matter to Noel anymore and it shouldn't matter to us. He cares a lot more about the charts than most of us are willing to admit. He says that the charts are fucked, but that didn't stop him from touting the success of What a Life or his album sales last go round. Sales and chart success matter to Noel, mostly because he came from an Era where they might have mattered. Honestly, if he didn't care about the charts then he wouldn't comment on them at all, but he's always commenting on the charts as if he perpetually wakes up with a chart update. Try to find an interview where he doesn't mention the charts on cue. It came off as the wise old rock God at first, but now it's tiring. Essentially, there was a myth that beady eye didn't care about album sales or success, but that got dispelled pretty quickly. Noel is no different. When you've had chart success your whole career, and the ethos of your former band was to be the biggest babd in the world, then it comes off as b.s. when you deface the charts in every interview possible. It comes off as a guy who hasn't been high in the charts in a while, and would welcome being back, but can't be back so he can't stop talking about it. Long of the short of it, if noel didn't care about the charts, then he wouldn't mention them. The album charts and singles charts are not created equal and certainly not in 2015. I have no doubts he cares about the album charts, but that's not what you rambled on about and what I commented on in the first place. Rarely do white men with guitars crack the top 40 singles charts these days. Its not 1996. The question is WHY DO YOU? It's fucking irrelevant to any fan whether an artist they are a fan of is at 2 or 83. Do you think Noel gives a shit about competing with Bieber or motherfucking Adele? He can't compete with pop behemoths as he doesn't have the general crossover appeal. Now, go ahead and write another nonsense blowhard essay about how Noel cares about something that you haven't even interpreted correctly.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 26, 2015 3:05:14 GMT -5
He cares a lot more about the charts than most of us are willing to admit. He says that the charts are fucked, but that didn't stop him from touting the success of What a Life or his album sales last go round. Sales and chart success matter to Noel, mostly because he came from an Era where they might have mattered. Honestly, if he didn't care about the charts then he wouldn't comment on them at all, but he's always commenting on the charts as if he perpetually wakes up with a chart update. Try to find an interview where he doesn't mention the charts on cue. It came off as the wise old rock God at first, but now it's tiring. Essentially, there was a myth that beady eye didn't care about album sales or success, but that got dispelled pretty quickly. Noel is no different. When you've had chart success your whole career, and the ethos of your former band was to be the biggest babd in the world, then it comes off as b.s. when you deface the charts in every interview possible. It comes off as a guy who hasn't been high in the charts in a while, and would welcome being back, but can't be back so he can't stop talking about it. Long of the short of it, if noel didn't care about the charts, then he wouldn't mention them. The album charts and singles charts are not created equal and certainly not in 2015. I have no doubts he cares about the album charts, but that's not what you rambled on about and what I commented on in the first place. Rarely do white men with guitars crack the top 40 singles charts these days. Its not 1996. The question is WHY DO YOU? It's fucking irrelevant to any fan whether an artist they are a fan of is at 2 or 83. Do you think Noel gives a shit about competing with Bieber or motherfucking Adele? He can't compete with pop behemoths as he doesn't have the general crossover appeal. Now, go ahead and write another nonsense blowhard essay about how Noel cares about something that you haven't even interpreted correctly. No reason to go off on a tirade. Treat others with same respect you'd like to be treated with.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 26, 2015 4:11:10 GMT -5
I think Noel is all about the UK #1 album. Anything else he does that does well is a bonus but I doubt he'll look up from his cornflakes for a Coldplay single that he played a bit of guitar on that goes in the chart at #40.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 26, 2015 7:40:57 GMT -5
I think Noel is all about the UK #1 album. Anything else he does that does well is a bonus but I doubt he'll look up from his cornflakes for a Coldplay single that he played a bit of guitar on that goes in the chart at #40. Yeah exactly. My opinion on that is the same as yours.
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Nov 26, 2015 13:09:55 GMT -5
Haven't given up on an announcement tomorrow for a gig that evening or Saturday :-)
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Post by spaneli on Nov 26, 2015 19:48:07 GMT -5
No reason to go off on a tirade. Treat others with same respect you'd like to be treated with. LOL way to back up your ridiculous points with patronizing BS. Typical spaneli. No, honestly it's because I've been trying to be more understanding of other's views and such. Call it an emotional journey Ive been on for the past few months since my father's death. So yea, typical me. But this response would also be typical of you. Hope you and your family have a happy holiday.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 27, 2015 3:06:47 GMT -5
I think Noel is all about the UK #1 album. Anything else he does that does well is a bonus but I doubt he'll look up from his cornflakes for a Coldplay single that he played a bit of guitar on that goes in the chart at #40. Yeah exactly. My opinion on that is the same as yours. And it's a good way to stay in the media headlines even when you dont have anything to promote... win win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 3:57:55 GMT -5
Can people stop quoting Spaneli? I have him on ignore and when he's quoted it doesn't get filtered out. Cheers.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 27, 2015 5:36:17 GMT -5
Why do some people hate spaneli? He's a very eloquent writer with a lot of insightful things to say, and he contributes to discussion well. What's there to hate?
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Post by andymorris on Nov 27, 2015 6:14:34 GMT -5
Why do some people hate spaneli? He's a very eloquent writer with a lot of insightful things to say, and he contributes to discussion well. What's there to hate? No one should be blocked, no matter how annoying they are. it's a forum where opinions and trolls are (or should be) free.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 8:03:00 GMT -5
Why do some people hate spaneli? He's a very eloquent writer with a lot of insightful things to say, and he contributes to discussion well. What's there to hate? Substitute "eloquent" for "pompous", "insightful" for "irrelevant" and "contributes to discussion" for "posts walls of coma-inducing text" and you've got my reasons for not wanting to read his posts down pretty accurately.
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Post by eva on Nov 27, 2015 8:28:35 GMT -5
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Post by spaneli on Nov 27, 2015 10:10:58 GMT -5
Why do some people hate spaneli? He's a very eloquent writer with a lot of insightful things to say, and he contributes to discussion well. What's there to hate? I can't comment on why. But I personally believe that even if someone contributes only one post that makes me laugh, think, or question, then it's worth not using the block feature. It's why I've never used it because in the end, this us a forum.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 27, 2015 10:32:12 GMT -5
Why do some people hate spaneli? He's a very eloquent writer with a lot of insightful things to say, and he contributes to discussion well. What's there to hate? No idea. Because they are ignorant? I like reading spaneli's posts. He's indeed insightful and he doesn't insult people. He also doesn't force his opinions of others. A lot of people should learn these things too.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 27, 2015 10:55:55 GMT -5
Why do some people hate spaneli? He's a very eloquent writer with a lot of insightful things to say, and he contributes to discussion well. What's there to hate? I can't comment on why. But I personally believe that even if someone contributes only one post that makes me laugh, think, or question, then it's worth not using the block feature. It's why I've never used it because in the end, this us a forum. People dont want to read people who disagree with them nowadays and are offended way too easily. The world is going towards that direction : closed communities that dont accept free speech. Personally i dont even remember what you posted about that got people so mad. I'm here to have fun, and that implies disagreeing with people. It's called democracyyyyy.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 27, 2015 12:04:55 GMT -5
I can't comment on why. But I personally believe that even if someone contributes only one post that makes me laugh, think, or question, then it's worth not using the block feature. It's why I've never used it because in the end, this us a forum. People dont want to read people who disagree with them nowadays and are offended way too easily. The world is going towards that direction : closed communities that dont accept free speech. Personally i dont even remember what you posted about that got people so mad. I'm here to have fun, and that implies disagreeing with people. It's called democracyyyyy. This. You can't criticize anything (Artists that aren't in any way related to them) or they get offended, and some people on here get so offended they start insulting others. This is a forum, freedom of speech and all, but have some respect towards each other. It's such a waste of energy and time.
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