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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 4:19:19 GMT -5
It's funny how nothing Noel does please your expectations (or Liam for that matter), yet you're still here
Anyway when I heard the news the first thing I thought was that he wanted to promote the BHN reissue,but it seems weird as he hates most of those tunes, what could he play? DYKWIM, Don't Go Away, Going Nowhere, Angel Child...Magic Pie maybe? Does he like it?
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 9, 2015 4:19:33 GMT -5
The dream scenario would be a Be Here Now...Naked tour. Stripped down versions of songs from the BHN sessions. But that actually requires some effort, so that's not a credible scenario at all. What I think Noel is doing, is promoting the re-issue by doing the tour, much like Stop The Clocks in '06 (was it '06?). He'll play a couple of songs from BHN (Don't Go Away etc.) and fill the rest of the setlist with stuff we've heard before. I think it's more likely. But we know Noel and Noel doesn't listen to our voice. I don't want to be dissapointed again like I was with many of his broken promises. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 9, 2015 4:20:01 GMT -5
Oh yeah, can't wait to hear It's Good To Be Free again  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 9, 2015 4:20:54 GMT -5
It's funny how nothing Noel does please your expectations (or Liam for that matter), yet you're still here Anyway when I heard the news the first thing I thought was that he wanted to promote the BHN reissue,but it seems weird as he hates most of those tunes, what could he play? DYKWIM, Don't Go Away, Going Nowhere, Angel Child...Magic Pie maybe? Does he like it? A 45 minute version of All Around The World, obviously. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 4:21:44 GMT -5
It's funny how nothing Noel does please your expectations (or Liam for that matter), yet you're still here Anyway when I heard the news the first thing I thought was that he wanted to promote the BHN reissue,but it seems weird as he hates most of those tunes, what could he play? DYKWIM, Don't Go Away, Going Nowhere, Angel Child...Magic Pie maybe? Does he like it? A 45 minute version of All Around The World, obviously. I hope he plays It's Good To Be Free 20 times in a row |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 9, 2015 4:28:58 GMT -5
I had forgotten Angel Child, so that makes it four tracks that he can play and doesn't hate (DYKWIM, Don't Go Away, Going Nowhere, Angel Child). Maybe Flashbax too? Add the usual suspects and you get the setlist.
There's no way he's going to do Magic Pie. I'll bet he's embarrassed about that track.
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Post by myfriendsays on Jul 9, 2015 4:37:16 GMT -5
I had forgotten Angel Child, so that makes it four tracks that he can play and doesn't hate (DYKWIM, Don't Go Away, Going Nowhere, Angel Child). Maybe Flashbax too? Add the usual suspects and you get the setlist. There's no way he's going to do Magic Pie. I'll bet he's embarrassed about that track. And maybe we'll see the return of Fade In/Out -> Setting Sun, complete with the bongos. It was actually a request from the audience to play 'Magic Pie' in Sweden recently, that made Noel respond: 'I pick the f*cking songs, you buy a t-shirt on the way out.' So I wouldn't bet any money on it's return. (Off-topic: I think he nicked the T-shirt joke from Liam.) |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 9, 2015 4:39:12 GMT -5
A BHN set would be amazing tbh
DYKWIM
Stay Young
Going Nowhere
Angel Child
Stand By Me
Fade In Out / Setting Sun
All Around the world
The Girl in the Dirty Shirt
Don't go Away
All those songs would be amazing acoustic. with a couple of other tunes.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 4:46:49 GMT -5
A BHN set would be amazing tbh DYKWIM Stay Young Going Nowhere Angel Child Stand By Me Fade In Out / Setting Sun All Around the world The Girl in the Dirty Shirt Don't go Away All those songs would be amazing acoustic. with a couple of other tunes. The Girl In The Dirty Shirt would be unbelievable...one of the most underrated Oasis songs imho |
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Post by carlober on Jul 9, 2015 4:49:44 GMT -5
It's time for the first performance ever of I Hope I Think I Know  It would sound great in acoustic. Come on! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 4:53:35 GMT -5
It's time for the first performance ever of I Hope I Think I Know It would sound great in acoustic. Come on! My Big Mouth |
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Post by myfriendsays on Jul 9, 2015 5:01:33 GMT -5
A re-done acoustic version (ala Supersonic or Champagne Supernova) of My Sister Lover and Flashbax would make me pay 70 quid any day.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 9, 2015 5:08:04 GMT -5
It's time for the first performance ever of I Hope I Think I Know It would sound great in acoustic. Come on! My Big Mouth I have the image in my head of Noel slapping the fuck out of his guitar on that one  |
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Jul 9, 2015 5:24:16 GMT -5
My advice to anyone here is don't try and get tickets when they go on sale.
...wait until I have mine confirmed
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Post by myfriendsays on Jul 9, 2015 5:27:39 GMT -5
And how about a new rendition of this little BHN-gem:
And speaking of gems, I'm a 100 percent sure Gem will be playing guitar on the tour.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 9, 2015 9:59:10 GMT -5
Noel cant play acoustic guitars like that anymore. He only plays it slowly and gently. With a capo on not to hurt his fingers
Too bad, Chipper son of a bitch is a classic tune.
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Post by sjone65 on Jul 9, 2015 14:34:05 GMT -5
If he plays All Around the World or Flashbax...I'm booking my plane ticket the next day. No way I'd miss either of those.
BHN Acoustic Tunes:
Angel Child
Stand by Me
Don't Go Away
D'You Know What I Mean?
Setting Sun/Fade-In/Out
"I spend my time..."
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Post by ccd204p on Jul 10, 2015 3:16:27 GMT -5
Noel cant play acoustic guitars like that anymore. He only plays it slowly and gently. With a capo on not to hurt his fingers Too bad, Chipper son of a bitch is a classic tune. How does putting a capo on mean you don't hurt your fingers as much? You still have to push the strings down! |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 10, 2015 4:24:11 GMT -5
Noel cant play acoustic guitars like that anymore. He only plays it slowly and gently. With a capo on not to hurt his fingers Too bad, Chipper son of a bitch is a classic tune. How does putting a capo on mean you don't hurt your fingers as much? You still have to push the strings down! Its easier to play most chords with a capo on, that's why noel does it, coz he's a lazy bastard. Chords such a C, F or B in standard tuning are bitches in the long run. Put a capo on and they become a nice G, A, or D, and the strings are softer, probably because of less tension or whatever the word is for it. |
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Post by will97smith on Jul 10, 2015 5:19:51 GMT -5
Does anyone have the full interview that Chipper son of a bitch is from?
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 10, 2015 5:53:59 GMT -5
How does putting a capo on mean you don't hurt your fingers as much? You still have to push the strings down! Its easier to play most chords with a capo on, that's why noel does it, coz he's a lazy bastard. Chords such a C, F or B in standard tuning are bitches in the long run. Put a capo on and they become a nice G, A, or D, and the strings are softer, probably because of less tension or whatever the word is for it. That's an extremely simplistic view of what a capo does. A capo is a tool that allows you to achieve voicings that would otherwise be impossible to achieve without it. The chords Noel uses (think of the Wonderwall chords) are a perfect example as we only have four fingers to fret with*. Not saying that Noel is not a lazy bastard, but this is not one argument I would use to prove that point. The reason it gets easier to fret is because the capo brings the strings closer to the fretboard, reducing the force you have to apply. * It's not impossible to play Wonderwall or any other Noel song without a capo, provided you use the pinky to fret the two lower strings (I've done it a few times I forgot to bring a capo), but it's a pain in the arse. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 10, 2015 6:49:06 GMT -5
I know what capo does, thanx... but We're saying the same thing here.
... Except he does it because he is lazy and feel more confident playing that way, and that's perfectly understandable.
Wonderwall was written and recorded that way, so it's irrelevant to mention that song. you could easily play it without a capo starting with F#m and so on. It's not exactly the same chords, but it works.
But Riverman, DLBIA (acoustic), Supersonic acoustic, What a Life... etc are played live with a capo in the SAME key, therefore Noel does it because he can play the songs easier that way. there's not other reason. Riverman for instance was clearly recorded with a capo on first fret and not on the 1234235 fret like he does live. but it's the same key... Why ? because its easier...
Nothing to do with voicing or anything. It's just easier on an acoustic guitar to play G Em D for DLBIA than C or F...etc. That's it. When you dont change the key there's not other reason.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 10, 2015 6:58:45 GMT -5
Does it matter? If it sounds good and it makes it easier for him to play, then what's the problem?
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 10, 2015 7:09:42 GMT -5
I know what capo does, thanx... but We're saying the same thing here. ... Except he does it because he is lazy and feel more confident playing that way, and that's perfectly understandable. Wonderwall was written and recorded that way, so it's irrelevant to mention that song. you could easily play it without a capo starting with F#m and so on. It's not exactly the same chords, but it works. But Riverman, DLBIA (acoustic), Supersonic acoustic, What a Life... etc are played live with a capo in the SAME key, therefore Noel does it because he can play the songs easier that way. there's not other reason. Riverman for instance was clearly recorded without a capo. Nothing to do with voicing or anything. It's just easier on an acoustic guitar to play G Em D for DLBIA than C or F...etc. That's it. When you dont change the key there's not other reason. It's not irrelevant that I mention Wonderwall when it can't be performed with a capo if you want it to sound the same. Those extra little notes than you don't seem to deem important are what makes the song. Of all the examples you could have chosen, you went and chose one that was clearly recorded with a capo (Riverman). Listen to it again. DLBIA has been transposed to B a few times, by the way (not that it can't be done without a capo, but there's that). Supersonic was transposed half a step up from F#m to Gm. Is it easier to play some chords with a capo? Definitely yes. Is that the only reason for using it? Only if all you see in a guitar is a few major and minor chords. The beauty of the guitar as a instrument is there are a lot of subtleties you can play with, having the same notes in different strings and places on the fretboard giving you different timbres. Something you can't do on a piano, for example. I can't speak for Noel, but I hear the net result and I can definitely recognise that it sounds different that if he just played the chords without a capo. Whether it's out of sheer laziness or there are musical reasons for it (or both) I can't tell. What I really don't get is that you seem to look down on him for using a capo? If so, that's a prejudice I can't understand. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 10, 2015 7:13:39 GMT -5
Does it matter? If it sounds good and it makes it easier for him to play, then what's the problem? There's no fun when you don't have anything to complain about,you know |
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