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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:04:41 GMT -5
BUMP! So, has anyone changed their mind as to whether there will be a new album - I'm still convinced there will be. Remember, no news isn't necessarily bad news with them... I've since changed my mind. I think we'll hear a new single before the gigs in June and an album will be released before the end of the year. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 4, 2016 15:21:44 GMT -5
I thought there would be new music as soon as those lemon posters started cropping up around Manchester. Why go to such lengths to promote a few gigs? It's not like they'd need to go to great lengths to stoke up enough interest, they're The Stone Roses, of course they're gonna sell out Manchester! There seems to be a growing trend of bigger acts dropping new music completely out of the blue, without bothering to promote it and going through all the rigmarole Noel goes through each time, ever since Bowie did it with The Next Day. I expect the Roses to do the same. Hopefully they'll fare much better than Coldplay did when they tried it last month (and obviously, as a sort of fan of theirs, I'm hoping the quality of the music they release will be of a higher standard than Coldplay's new stuff)
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2016 15:33:46 GMT -5
We've also got to remember that it takes the Roses ages to make an album. The first album was a good few years in the making, while we know everything about the lengthy process it took to make Second Coming.
It takes approximately five years for them to make one - so considering they reunited in 2011, then 2016 makes sense for new music.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:40:11 GMT -5
We've also got to remember that it takes the Roses ages to make an album. The first album was a good few years in the making, while we know everything about the lengthy process it took to make Second Coming. It takes approximately five years for them to make one - so considering they reunited in 2011, then 2016 makes sense for new music. I'm sure Shane Meadows mentioned that they already had a bunch of new songs when he was making Made Of Stone. Maybe they've been writing ever since they reformed and perhaps even earlier than that. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 4, 2016 15:45:51 GMT -5
im sure ian brown would of had a stack of songs for what would of been his 7th solo album had the roses not reformed so theres a least half a album they could use,,get john to rewrite some of the music so you get the written by squire/brown,,but i cant see it thats why i wasnt arsed when the reformed in 2011 and even less bothered when they announced the shows for this year,,im hoping after these gigs they all fall out ans split for good so ian brown can become a solo artist again which is what i always prefered to the stone roses,,dont get me wrong i love the music of the stone roses but was always more a fan of IB as a solo artist
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2016 16:02:56 GMT -5
im sure ian brown would of had a stack of songs for what would of been his 7th solo album had the roses not reformed so theres a least half a album they could use,,get john to rewrite some of the music so you get the written by squire/brown,,but i cant see it thats why i wasnt arsed when the reformed in 2011 and even less bothered when they announced the shows for this year,,im hoping after these gigs they all fall out ans split for good so ian brown can become a solo artist again which is what i always prefered to the stone roses,,dont get me wrong i love the music of the stone roses but was always more a fan of IB as a solo artist First time I've ever read that from a fan. I think Ian Brown's solo stuff is alright. Just alright. I have the best of compilation and I listened to some other albums on YouTube and I have no desire to buy them. |
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2016 16:04:35 GMT -5
We've also got to remember that it takes the Roses ages to make an album. The first album was a good few years in the making, while we know everything about the lengthy process it took to make Second Coming. It takes approximately five years for them to make one - so considering they reunited in 2011, then 2016 makes sense for new music. I'm sure Shane Meadows mentioned that they already had a bunch of new songs when he was making Made Of Stone. Maybe they've been writing ever since they reformed and perhaps even earlier than that. Add to the fact that Ian Brown was fairly consistent in releasing solo albums every couple to few years until 2011. I refuse to believe he's done no work since 2011, and that they must surely be working together over these past years. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 5, 2016 16:27:11 GMT -5
im sure ian brown would of had a stack of songs for what would of been his 7th solo album had the roses not reformed so theres a least half a album they could use,,get john to rewrite some of the music so you get the written by squire/brown,,but i cant see it thats why i wasnt arsed when the reformed in 2011 and even less bothered when they announced the shows for this year,,im hoping after these gigs they all fall out ans split for good so ian brown can become a solo artist again which is what i always prefered to the stone roses,,dont get me wrong i love the music of the stone roses but was always more a fan of IB as a solo artistFirst time I've ever read that from a fan. I think Ian Brown's solo stuff is alright. Just alright. I have the best of compilation and I listened to some other albums on YouTube and I have no desire to buy them. as much as i like the stone roses i didnt really get into them until the second coming then backtracked to the debut lp and turns into stone etc then they split up,,fast forward to 1998 when IB released UMB and i was hooked from day one as a solo artist,,managed to see him live about 15 times from 98-09,,best gig ever was 14th dec 2009 ( my 35th bday) newcastle city hall we were stage right on the balcony and had the best view ever,,when the gig finished his drummer handed me the setlist that was in front of ian,,i was literally hangin of this balcony with my lass and my mate holding my legs while i reached down for it haha good times ps my 2 cents worth FEAR,, shadow of a saint,,soldiers,,time is my everything,,sone folks are hollow,,corpses,,keep what ya got,,sister rose,,the world is yours ,,by all means necessary,,for the glory,,northen lights,,dolphins were monkeys,,solarized,,destiny or circumstance are just as good as any songs on the 2 stones roses albums in my opinion |
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 6, 2016 4:01:12 GMT -5
F.E.A.R is one of the best songs by Ian Brown, same as Marathon Man and Sister Rose has got a vibe of Fools Gold, but you can't compare his solo stuff to The Rose's first album.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jan 6, 2016 6:56:47 GMT -5
I reckon they have to release something eventually, its starting to get a bit ridiculous!
Ian Brown must have material waiting, its been nearly 7 years since his last Solo album.
Speaking of which, "My Way" was a great album I thought!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 7:35:00 GMT -5
the joke about this band. Is oasis gets criticized for flopping with bhn .....at least they came out with a follow up in a timely fashion. ( and I still think BHN is there best ) The roses do nothing And are considered " gods ". There first lp. Had a few good tunes they are the most over hyped band ever .....they actually make guns and roses work ethic look good Seriously overrated band. Overrated singer And there guitarists. Tragic. They were a band that hipsters fell in love with Noel amongst them ...... Nobody really cares anymore I'd rather see Robbie Williams than that joke of a band. Seriously what have they done  They had good haircuts. And mani makes for good quotes |
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Post by globe on Jan 7, 2016 6:06:59 GMT -5
I hope they do, best band that has ever walked the face of the earth. But I wont hold my breath.
I love Brown's solo stuff, I really liked that he made his own sound and his solo stuff wasn't just generic Roses-type stuff, which would have been the easy and lazy option.
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Post by glider on Jan 7, 2016 14:55:42 GMT -5
BUMP! So, has anyone changed their mind as to whether there will be a new album - I'm still convinced there will be. Remember, no news isn't necessarily bad news with them... I've since changed my mind. I think we'll hear a new single before the gigs in June and an album will be released before the end of the year. As much as I hope this is the case, I can't keep my hopes up with these guys. We've been let down before and these gigs in June may just be another cash grab. Just think though if they play new material for the first time at the gigs! Otherwise its been complete silence with them, which is always a good thing and bad thing. The world needs The Stone Roses. |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jan 7, 2016 15:56:06 GMT -5
Exactly. My intention is that they'll at least drop a couple (...maybe two new tunes) in their upcoming live sets. Beatles Anthology kind of style.
Game Changer!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 17:52:29 GMT -5
the joke about this band. Is oasis gets criticized for flopping with bhn .....at least they came out with a follow up in a timely fashion. ( and I still think BHN is there best ) The roses do nothing And are considered " gods ". There first lp. Had a few good tunes they are the most over hyped band ever .....they actually make guns and roses work ethic look good Seriously overrated band. Overrated singer And there guitarists. Tragic. They were a band that hipsters fell in love with Noel amongst them ...... Nobody really cares anymore I'd rather see Robbie Williams than that joke of a band. Seriously what have they done They had good haircuts. And mani makes for good quotes Interesting to see somebody with the polar opposite opinion to me. I think at their peak they were the greatest band the world has ever seen (summer 1990). They had the look, the songs, the sound. They were just so fucking good. Ian's voice complemented John's guitar playing so perfectly. Mani and Reni are both amazingly giften musicians and I think at that time they had a tightness that no other band has ever had. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 18:15:35 GMT -5
the joke about this band. Is oasis gets criticized for flopping with bhn .....at least they came out with a follow up in a timely fashion. ( and I still think BHN is there best ) The roses do nothing And are considered " gods ". There first lp. Had a few good tunes they are the most over hyped band ever .....they actually make guns and roses work ethic look good Seriously overrated band. Overrated singer And there guitarists. Tragic. They were a band that hipsters fell in love with Noel amongst them ...... Nobody really cares anymore I'd rather see Robbie Williams than that joke of a band. Seriously what have they done They had good haircuts. And mani makes for good quotes Interesting to see somebody with the polar opposite opinion to me. I think at their peak they were the greatest band the world has ever seen (summer 1990). They had the look, the songs, the sound. They were just so fucking good. Ian's voice complemented John's guitar playing so perfectly. Mani and Reni are both amazingly giften musicians and I think at that time they had a tightness that no other band has ever See here is the thing. I'm not hating on the roses. But I seen them all. And at there best ..live they were ok. Not great. Much like oasis. Guns and roses live were great. Bruce live was great. Van Halen in the years Dave still had a voice were great Tje rises A band that is overhyped There not that good |
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Post by glider on Jan 10, 2016 2:09:30 GMT -5
I'm really hoping these June and July gigs aren't cash grabs and actually promoting new material. Really don't want to be let down again.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 10, 2016 3:30:45 GMT -5
For those who missed their reunion gigs in 2012, this is the great opportunity to be witnessed one of the greatest bands in the British music history.
I've seen them twice in 2 countries. I hope they'll release at least a new single before they kick off in Manchester in Summer.
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Post by matt on Jan 10, 2016 16:00:49 GMT -5
I don't have one issue with them releasing new music at all (which I expect). Some saying it will damage their legacy but I don't think they've got anything to lose considering Second Coming was poorly received in the public sphere (even though many fans love the album).
Whatever the case is, I'm very fascinated as to how it will sound. There was the retro 60s inspired pop sound of the first album, then they had more dancey, electronic influenced tunes like One Love and Fools Gold on latter singles, and then the hard blues rock of Second Coming, so if anything, they aren't predictable when it comes to music.
I predict a fuller sounding take on Ian Brown's solo material - modern electro influences but with more guitars, and generally more of a 'band' sound. Even if it is shit, it will be fascinating to hear how or if they have changed in the 20 plus years since Second Coming.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Jan 10, 2016 16:07:35 GMT -5
still annoyed they made such hype for a cashgrab stadium show. i think they have had their day now
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Post by carryusall on Jan 10, 2016 16:48:01 GMT -5
I don't think the issue of living up to their previous work lies in them making an album as great as their first. I think we all agree that isn't goo to happen.
I think the pressure is for them to make a comeback single as great as Love Spreads. And I can't see them doing it. I never rate it as such, because it doesn't have the stone roses sound of their earlier work, but it might objectively be their best song.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 11, 2016 18:03:48 GMT -5
Who will be faster?
The stone roses or liam gallagher?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 11, 2016 18:23:49 GMT -5
Fuck the legacy, new music is essential. Can't carry on doing cash tours on the back of two albums for fucks sake.
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Post by glider on Jan 11, 2016 20:55:11 GMT -5
Fuck the legacy, new music is essential. Can't carry on doing cash tours on the back of two albums for fucks sake. Like I said, it wouldn't surprise me if this will be the case. Yet at the same time, if nothing was going on, Ian would've had his new solo out or being promoted by now and Mani would be back at Primal Scream. Something's Burning  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 12, 2016 2:58:32 GMT -5
Fuck the legacy, new music is essential. Can't carry on doing cash tours on the back of two albums for fucks sake. Like I said, it wouldn't surprise me if this will be the case. Yet at the same time, if nothing was going on, Ian would've had his new solo out or being promoted by now and Mani would be back at Primal Scream. Something's Burning I really hope so. Funny thing with the Roses is money makes them disappear. They got a massive advance from Geffen when they joined them after the first record and then disappeared and they did the same after earning a shit ton of money from these gigs. |
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