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Post by paperbackwriter on May 9, 2015 8:31:07 GMT -5
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of someone else's money that's not what socially is about, though...
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 8:47:15 GMT -5
Just wondering if everyone here is a socialist or communist? Sure seems that way. My girlfriend is the only Socialist I know and she hates other points of view. I'm an anarcho-communist, and I think there's a lot of socialists or left wing people on here because, among other reasons of course, Oasis are/were most popular in the north of the UK - where right wing capitalism would have completely destroyed lives and society were it not for largely socialist organisations - like the NHS.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 9, 2015 9:14:08 GMT -5
Dependence is death to initiative.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 9:16:23 GMT -5
First Thatcher, now Romney. What is it with the conservative parroting today?
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Post by batfink30 on May 9, 2015 9:24:37 GMT -5
First Thatcher, now Romney. What is it with the conservative parroting today? We pretty much live in a right wing, greedy, capitalistic world. Fuck the poor and vulnerable , I'm alright. The votes in England showed that.
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Post by jakob61907 on May 9, 2015 9:31:36 GMT -5
Lot of ignorant fascist supporters on here. Abhorrent really but I guess some love a system and political party that generate the worst human qualities in us of selfishness, fear and greed.
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Post by LightsOffInside on May 9, 2015 9:36:25 GMT -5
I'm glad SNP had such a success here in Scotland, hopefully it'll help the relevant people make the right decision and eventually we can become independent and get the fuck away from the Conservatives and their lies.
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Post by batfink30 on May 9, 2015 9:55:48 GMT -5
I'm glad SNP had such a success here in Scotland, hopefully it'll help the relevant people make the right decision and eventually we can become independent and get the fuck away from the Conservatives and their lies. Whilst I agree in principle I also fear the path the SNP are dragging us down. If they get their wish of full fiscal autonomy then we're looking at an extra 8bn in defceit (according to the Scottish Government own report) on top of the 12bn we already have. Were going to be looking at major, major cuts much worse than we have at moment and tax rises which will hit the poor severely. The goal of Independence will have major financial consequences the question you have to ask is if you're willing to pay them for long term >20years gain.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 9:55:54 GMT -5
Dependence is death to initiative. Ayn Rand? Is that you?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on May 9, 2015 11:15:51 GMT -5
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of someone else's money Problem with Capitalism is you have thousands of poor, vulnerable people dying and starving whilst ultra rich bankers give themselves millions of $ in bonuses and cause world recessions.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on May 9, 2015 13:20:39 GMT -5
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of someone else's money Resorting to quoting Thatcher? Really? Anyone who actually quotes Thatcher is obviously an incompassionate cun t
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Post by deasy on May 9, 2015 16:20:38 GMT -5
Socialists look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at that rich fucker, I'm going to drag him down to my level some day"
Normal people look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at him, I hope to be as successful as him some day and own a car like that"
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on May 9, 2015 16:24:18 GMT -5
Socialists look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at that rich fucker, I'm going to drag him down to my level some day" Normal people look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at him, I hope to be as successful as him some day and own a car like that" No! You can sail with me in my yellow submarine, Money!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 16:41:04 GMT -5
Socialists look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at that rich fucker, I'm going to drag him down to my level some day" Normal people look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at him, I hope to be as successful as him some day and own a car like that" BMW drivers tend to be complete pricks.
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Post by matt on May 9, 2015 17:06:33 GMT -5
To be honest, socialism is dead in the UK. That's not a jibe, it just seems to be a fact these days.
Labour move to the left under Foot? Tory majority. Labour move to the left under Kinnock? An unexpected Tory majority. Labour move to the left under Miliband? An even more unexpected Tory majority.
A discerning trend for socialism. With an ever increasing middle class, it just doesn't seem possible anymore and is getting harder and harder to achieve as time goes on.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 9, 2015 17:45:09 GMT -5
The protests and riots occurring in London are pathetic, but are typical of the (and any) leftist population. You lost a democratic election, get over yourselves and show some humility.
The Tories are in for the next 5 years and no amount of shouting, slogans, or violence will change that. Stop embarrassing yourselves. You lost. Recamp and move on. Stop acting like the entitled brats that have defined the left in both the UK as well as the U.S.
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Post by batfink30 on May 9, 2015 18:02:50 GMT -5
The protests and riots occurring in London are pathetic, but are typical of the (and any) leftist population. You lost a democratic election, get over yourselves and show some humility. The Tories are in for the next 5 years and no amount of shouting, slogans, or violence will change that. Stop embarrassing yourselves. You lost. Recamp and move on. Stop acting like the entitled brats that have defined the left in both the UK as well as the U.S. The protests in London are about austerity and welfare cuts which have hit the UK. People are having to use food banks and are living in poverty because companies are not paying enough to live on whilst bankers in the city are getting massive bonuses for nothing and politicians are claiming expenses they're not entitled to, there was a big scandal here about it. The Tory party ran on a manifesto of more austerity and cuts but not tax rises,this will obviously hit the poorer in society. Why should the poor have to be hit whilst the rich don't have to? The UK at the moment is totally split and politically a mess. You have in the north of England and Scotland a massive socialist vote in fact, Scotland voted for all socialist whereas further south you have a high right wing vote. This is mostly because London(city) and the south east have sucked up the wealth in the UK and left the rest of the UK in comparative poverty. Theres much, much more to it than"there's the socialists rioting". Anyway, the UK in the next 10 years will be split and Scotland will separate, the political movement has started and it's got such a massive momentum and now vote, it can't be stopped. How can Scotland have voted entirely for socialism but be governed by a right wing government voted for by another country, which has essentially what's happened ? Very interesting times ahead here.
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 9, 2015 18:13:08 GMT -5
The protests and riots occurring in London are pathetic, but are typical of the (and any) leftist population. You lost a democratic election, get over yourselves and show some humility. The Tories are in for the next 5 years and no amount of shouting, slogans, or violence will change that. Stop embarrassing yourselves. You lost. Recamp and move on. Stop acting like the entitled brats that have defined the left in both the UK as well as the U.S. It's almost like how U.S. Republicans have whined during the entire length of Barack Obama's presidency, and tried to undermine anything and everything, including literally voting to shut down federal government. God bless.
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Post by batfink30 on May 9, 2015 18:17:41 GMT -5
The protests and riots occurring in London are pathetic, but are typical of the (and any) leftist population. You lost a democratic election, get over yourselves and show some humility. The Tories are in for the next 5 years and no amount of shouting, slogans, or violence will change that. Stop embarrassing yourselves. You lost. Recamp and move on. Stop acting like the entitled brats that have defined the left in both the UK as well as the U.S. It's almost like how U.S. Republicans have whined during the entire length of Barack Obama's presidency, and tried to undermine anything and everything, including literally voting to shut down federal government. God bless. Funnily enough, The Torys in the UK are probably more left wing than the Democrats.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 18:28:34 GMT -5
Socialists look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at that rich fucker, I'm going to drag him down to my level some day" Normal people look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at him, I hope to be as successful as him some day and own a car like that" The guy in the BMW looks at the normal guy and says "I bet I can fool him into doing whatever the fuck I want because he defines his success by his wealth"
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 9, 2015 19:04:29 GMT -5
Socialists look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at that rich fucker, I'm going to drag him down to my level some day" Normal people look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at him, I hope to be as successful as him some day and own a car like that" BMW drivers tend to be complete pricks. Oi, my mom's previous car was a BMW.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 19:06:03 GMT -5
BMW drivers tend to be complete pricks. Oi, my mom's previous car was a BMW. If he can make sweeping statements whilst providing no evidence whatsoever then so can I.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 9, 2015 20:33:25 GMT -5
Socialists look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at that rich fucker, I'm going to drag him down to my level some day" Normal people look at a guy driving down the street in a brand new BMW and say "look at him, I hope to be as successful as him some day and own a car like that" I hope you made that up yourself, otherwise two people have said something incredibly stupid.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 9, 2015 20:37:01 GMT -5
The protests and riots occurring in London are pathetic, but are typical of the (and any) leftist population. You lost a democratic election, get over yourselves and show some humility. The Tories are in for the next 5 years and no amount of shouting, slogans, or violence will change that. Stop embarrassing yourselves. You lost. Recamp and move on. Stop acting like the entitled brats that have defined the left in both the UK as well as the U.S. Hahahahahaa NL4E instructs people to show HUMILITY. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 9, 2015 20:43:32 GMT -5
The protests and riots occurring in London are pathetic, but are typical of the (and any) leftist population. You lost a democratic election, get over yourselves and show some humility. The Tories are in for the next 5 years and no amount of shouting, slogans, or violence will change that. Stop embarrassing yourselves. You lost. Recamp and move on. Stop acting like the entitled brats that have defined the left in both the UK as well as the U.S. It's almost like how U.S. Republicans have whined during the entire length of Barack Obama's presidency, and tried to undermine anything and everything, including literally voting to shut down federal government. God bless. That's how the US government works. Never mind the fact that Obama had complete control of both houses during his first term! Ignoring his policies, Obama is a very poor politician (great on the campaign, but he never could apply that to his office persona). And you just watch the left's response when Jeb Bush is elected next year - it will be akin to silly, inconsequential protests for a few days before everyone moves on and accepts the result (like London right now).
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