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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on May 23, 2015 17:37:08 GMT -5
Great song. I really wished he would play it live. Hm... That means noel has to change the setlist.. Don't see that happening soon^^ |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 23, 2015 18:38:16 GMT -5
Best song on the album, by miles. One of the best songs Noel has written in the last decade at least. Its a gem of a tune.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on May 23, 2015 19:26:35 GMT -5
Its funny because I think completely the opposite.I think it was overhyped simply because its like nothing we have heard from a Gallagher before.
Ironically when you take away the female vocals and backing track which are admittedly very much a change in direction, the verses and chorus are actually very much noel by numbers.
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Post by dennizz on May 24, 2015 2:29:42 GMT -5
i love everything about this song. But it's more of a groove than a tune, maybe thats why people tend to love or hate it
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 24, 2015 2:36:48 GMT -5
Its funny because I think completely the opposite.I think it was overhyped simply because its like nothing we have heard from a Gallagher before. Ironically when you take away the female vocals and backing track which are admittedly very much a change in direction, the verses and chorus are actually very much noel by numbers. If I shave my head, gain a 100 pounds and stick on a fake beard I won't look like myself anymore. What kind of reasoning is this. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 24, 2015 3:15:16 GMT -5
Cool vibe, great recording and production,but more of an atmospheric piece of music than a proper song. I don't understand what's so 'out there' in it either.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 3:19:22 GMT -5
Its funny because I think completely the opposite.I think it was overhyped simply because its like nothing we have heard from a Gallagher before. Ironically when you take away the female vocals and backing track which are admittedly very much a change in direction, the verses and chorus are actually very much noel by numbers. If you took away all of that, what you're left with is Noel's vocal. I don't really see your point. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 24, 2015 3:30:50 GMT -5
Its funny because I think completely the opposite.I think it was overhyped simply because its like nothing we have heard from a Gallagher before. Ironically when you take away the female vocals and backing track which are admittedly very much a change in direction, the verses and chorus are actually very much noel by numbers. If you took away all of that, what you're left with is Noel's vocal. I don't really see your point. I do see his point. In songwriting terms, if you play this song on acousitc guitar and sing it, it's a fuckin' High Horse Lady. The song itself is hardly an amazing composition, it's the recording, arrangement and instrumentation that makes it interesting. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 24, 2015 3:49:17 GMT -5
I really think the bass takes away from the vocal...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 3:49:32 GMT -5
If you took away all of that, what you're left with is Noel's vocal. I don't really see your point. I do see his point. In songwriting terms, if you play this song on acousitc guitar and sing it, it's a fuckin' High Horse Lady. The song itself is hardly an amazing composition, it's the recording, arrangement and instrumentation that makes it interesting. It's got a better melody than High Horse Lady. If you take a song like Tomorrow Never Knows and played that acoustically, it's not going to sound that impressive. But because of the recording techniques, the sounds, the arrangements and the instrumentation it makes it one of the most influential and forward thinking songs of all time. Do we dismiss that as well because it only uses one chord? Maybe The Right Stuff is looked upon fondly because it's different sounding to a lot of Noel's songs. But you can't simply dismiss it because it wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I can think of hundreds of outstanding songs that wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I think it's a good song because of the combination of the instrumentation, the harmonies and the melody itself. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 24, 2015 4:13:15 GMT -5
I do see his point. In songwriting terms, if you play this song on acousitc guitar and sing it, it's a fuckin' High Horse Lady. The song itself is hardly an amazing composition, it's the recording, arrangement and instrumentation that makes it interesting. It's got a better melody than High Horse Lady. If you a song like Tomorrow Never Knows and played that acoustically, it's not going to sound that impressive. But because of the recording techniques, the sounds, the arrangements and the instrumentation it makes it one of the most influential songs and forward thinking songs of all time. Do we dismiss that as well because it only uses one chord? Maybe The Right Stuff is looked upon fondly because it's different sounding to a lot of Noel's songs. But you can't simply dismiss it because it wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I can think of hundreds of outstanding songs that wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I think it's a good song because of the combination of the instrumentation, the harmonies and the melody itself. |
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Post by Gin & Tonic on May 24, 2015 4:17:00 GMT -5
Meh.
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Post by jaq515 on May 24, 2015 4:19:28 GMT -5
I do see his point. In songwriting terms, if you play this song on acousitc guitar and sing it, it's a fuckin' High Horse Lady. The song itself is hardly an amazing composition, it's the recording, arrangement and instrumentation that makes it interesting. It's got a better melody than High Horse Lady. If you a song like Tomorrow Never Knows and played that acoustically, it's not going to sound that impressive. But because of the recording techniques, the sounds, the arrangements and the instrumentation it makes it one of the most influential songs and forward thinking songs of all time. Do we dismiss that as well because it only uses one chord? Maybe The Right Stuff is looked upon fondly because it's different sounding to a lot of Noel's songs. But you can't simply dismiss it because it wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I can think of hundreds of outstanding songs that wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I think it's a good song because of the combination of the instrumentation, the harmonies and the melody itself. so you all are saying basically the same thing Liam92 said it looked on fondly as its different for a noel song obv saying if you take away the female vocals etc it be a basic noel song (having those things are basically production choices) F.P saying its a basic Noel song when played on guitar, but obv way its produced makes it different I don't see anywhere anyone dismissing the track? Think the implication is that its an average song at heart, but the way been produced has made it one of the favourites on the album. Maybe i've misread stuff tho (i don't think anyone would dismiss TNK and obv it made the rules / was the first song of its kind ever, its not even slightly relevant) |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 24, 2015 5:12:48 GMT -5
Its funny because I think completely the opposite.I think it was overhyped simply because its like nothing we have heard from a Gallagher before. Ironically when you take away the female vocals and backing track which are admittedly very much a change in direction, the verses and chorus are actually very much noel by numbers. It may be built on unremarkable or a fairly standard foundation but what is put on top gives it something unlike anything else on the album. That it is different is not just what keeps me listening to it. It conjures up a space like atmosphere, it feels dense and dreamlike. Noel by numbers with something a little different is better than say The Dying of The Light which is Noel dropping some chords into the Noel Gallagher Ballad Machine TM. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 5:17:54 GMT -5
It's got a better melody than High Horse Lady. If you a song like Tomorrow Never Knows and played that acoustically, it's not going to sound that impressive. But because of the recording techniques, the sounds, the arrangements and the instrumentation it makes it one of the most influential songs and forward thinking songs of all time. Do we dismiss that as well because it only uses one chord? Maybe The Right Stuff is looked upon fondly because it's different sounding to a lot of Noel's songs. But you can't simply dismiss it because it wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I can think of hundreds of outstanding songs that wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I think it's a good song because of the combination of the instrumentation, the harmonies and the melody itself. It doesn't matter why I like the song but I actually outlined the reasons in my previous post. |
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Post by jaq515 on May 24, 2015 5:25:09 GMT -5
Its funny because I think completely the opposite.I think it was overhyped simply because its like nothing we have heard from a Gallagher before. Ironically when you take away the female vocals and backing track which are admittedly very much a change in direction, the verses and chorus are actually very much noel by numbers. It may be built on unremarkable or a fairly standard foundation but what is put on top gives it something unlike anything else on the album. That it is different is not just what keeps me listening to it. It conjures up a space like atmosphere, it feels dense and dreamlike. Noel by numbers with something a little different is better than say The Dying of The Light which is Noel dropping some chords into the Noel Gallagher Ballad Machine TM. I think everyone would agree.. I think Noel should make an album with its co producers |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 24, 2015 5:36:32 GMT -5
I think you like it mostly because of the instrumentation and arrangement, you just don't realise that. It doesn't matter why I like the song but I actually outlined the reasons in my previous post. Exactly! |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 24, 2015 5:38:13 GMT -5
It's got a better melody than High Horse Lady. If you a song like Tomorrow Never Knows and played that acoustically, it's not going to sound that impressive. But because of the recording techniques, the sounds, the arrangements and the instrumentation it makes it one of the most influential songs and forward thinking songs of all time. Do we dismiss that as well because it only uses one chord? Maybe The Right Stuff is looked upon fondly because it's different sounding to a lot of Noel's songs. But you can't simply dismiss it because it wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I can think of hundreds of outstanding songs that wouldn't work on an acoustic guitar. I think it's a good song because of the combination of the instrumentation, the harmonies and the melody itself. I think this post will win the most patronising of the day. You just don't realise that. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 24, 2015 7:53:27 GMT -5
I love it but think it kinda stops the flow of the album dead. When I listen to it in isolation, however, I think it's amazing.
I'd love for Noel to a whole album that'd this would fit alongside. Right Stuff, Alone on the Rope, Let the Lord Shine a Light on Me. That kind of stuff. The mood and the atmosphere are very important to these songs. I'm not so sure that the Right Stuff is in the right place coming straight after Lock All the Doors and The Dying of the Light.
It's one of the best songs he's done full stop but I'm not sure it works on the album.
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Post by fox5150 on May 24, 2015 11:26:17 GMT -5
A late night thought from yesterday.. The Right Stuff reminds be a bit of this (which is a tune, by the way): Picked up the guitar to check, the chord progression during the chorus is exactly the same (half a step down from Right Stuff).... |
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Post by johnwesleyharding on May 24, 2015 11:35:51 GMT -5
On first listen I hated the track. Both vocals were competent but the lyrics are so cliché it carried zero weight and meandered doing nothing. Breaking the oasis mold is desirable for critics and those pining for a progressive Noel, but doesn't improve the listen-ability of a tune. I tried to hear what others on the forum raved about and got nothing. After getting the instrumental, I heard the majesty of the track and in context with the album, I really liked what I heard. As an instrumental, The Right Stuff works for me and sounds beautiful. If I have to hear the vocals, I'm skipping it every time. |
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Post by andymorris on May 24, 2015 13:52:35 GMT -5
A late night thought from yesterday.. The Right Stuff reminds be a bit of this (which is a tune, by the way): Picked up the guitar to check, the chord progression during the chorus is exactly the same (half a step down from Right Stuff).... It's a basic chord progression, just a coincidence. That Air record is ace, too bad the rest of their records didn't live up the hype |
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Post by jaq515 on May 24, 2015 14:40:41 GMT -5
Picked up the guitar to check, the chord progression during the chorus is exactly the same (half a step down from Right Stuff).... It's a basic chord progression, just a coincidence. That Air record is ace, too bad the rest of their records didn't live up the hype i don't think they ever made music for to entice hype. They made they wanted to make . They made an album based on on 1900's silent film i don't think they were going for mass consumption (thats after their follow up to moon safari was an indie movie soundtrack) |
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Post by Jailbird on May 24, 2015 15:03:42 GMT -5
It's brilliant, the only thing I don't like about it is the "jeans get frayed" line.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 24, 2015 15:17:39 GMT -5
It's brilliant, the only thing I don't like about it is the "jeans get frayed" line. Same here. |
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