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Post by spud on Mar 29, 2015 18:54:37 GMT -5
I've just revisited BE and it's warmer than Chasing Yesterday.
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Post by brumoscardo on Mar 29, 2015 19:12:16 GMT -5
Hi Liam!
I was a big fan of you when you were in OASIS!
Can I have your autograph?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 19:20:17 GMT -5
Don't feed the don.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 29, 2015 19:25:00 GMT -5
The can of worms have been opened.
Chasing Yesterday is the best post oasis album IMO. noels first album was good, but overrated to make sure the natural consensus was it was better than Beady Eye. I mean, the first thing I see when the death of you and me comes out is the NME headline "BETTER THAN BEADY EYE". seriously even if you think that, it just proves from the off the pre conceived views of noel and liam came to the forefront.
This isn't to say I don't prefer Noels albums to Beady Eye because I do. What I hate to this day is there are people you speak to who say they didn't even give Beady Eye a chance or much of a chance. While I'm guessing they sat down and gave both noel albums a real listen a few times to get into it.
I think with ANY music. If you go into listening to it saying you won't like it compared to really wanting to like it,you'll very rarely prefer the former.
While Noel has much stronger songs like Ballad Of The Mighty I and Everybody's on the Run, I still don't think I've got as much of a buzz from any of his songs that I did from hearing Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger for the first time. Probably because i think Noel misses the power and swagger of Liam.Which probably just vindicates why I want them both together again so much.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 29, 2015 19:29:37 GMT -5
Spud is BeadyEyeUnofficial.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 19:30:54 GMT -5
The can of worms have been opened. Chasing Yesterday is the best post oasis album IMO. noels first album was good, but overrated to make sure the natural consensus was it was better than Beady Eye. I mean, the first thing I see when the death of you and me comes out is the NME headline "BETTER THAN BEADY EYE". seriously even if you think that, it just proves from the off the pre conceived views of noel and liam came to the forefront. This isn't to say I don't prefer Noels albums to Beady Eye because I do. What I hate to this day is there are people you speak to who say they didn't even give Beady Eye a chance or much of a chance. While I'm guessing they sat down and gave both noel albums a real listen a few times to get into it. I think with ANY music. If you go into listening to it saying you won't like it compared to really wanting to like it,you'll very rarely prefer the former. While Noel has much stronger songs like Ballad Of The Mighty I and Everybody's on the Run, I still don't think I've got as much of a buzz from any of his songs that I did from hearing Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger for the first time. Probably because i think Noel misses the power and swagger of Liam.Which probably just vindicates why I want them both together again so much. That's enough of that. We can't be having reasoned and sensible posts on threads like these. |
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Post by World71R on Mar 29, 2015 19:51:15 GMT -5
While Noel has much stronger songs like Ballad Of The Mighty I and Everybody's on the Run, I still don't think I've got as much of a buzz from any of his songs that I did from hearing Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger for the first time. Probably because i think Noel misses the power and swagger of Liam.Which probably just vindicates why I want them both together again so much. Or songs that are kind of minimalist and don't overdo it, but also leave a nice impact on you, like how Off at the Next Exit is. That song is quite barebones pop rock with no overproduction or anything like that, and I love it. I'm not saying Noel hasn't come close to doing anything like that, but there aren't many songs from his solo project that are simple and stripped down. Even in songs like The Dying of the Light or The Girl With X-Ray Eyes, you still get some electronics and a Mellotron. While I love TDOTL, and don't mind TGWXE, I think a bit of a stripped back sound for some of the songs wouldn't do any harm. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 29, 2015 20:06:58 GMT -5
The can of worms have been opened. Chasing Yesterday is the best post oasis album IMO. noels first album was good, but overrated to make sure the natural consensus was it was better than Beady Eye. I mean, the first thing I see when the death of you and me comes out is the NME headline "BETTER THAN BEADY EYE". seriously even if you think that, it just proves from the off the pre conceived views of noel and liam came to the forefront. This isn't to say I don't prefer Noels albums to Beady Eye because I do. What I hate to this day is there are people you speak to who say they didn't even give Beady Eye a chance or much of a chance. While I'm guessing they sat down and gave both noel albums a real listen a few times to get into it. I think with ANY music. If you go into listening to it saying you won't like it compared to really wanting to like it,you'll very rarely prefer the former. While Noel has much stronger songs like Ballad Of The Mighty I and Everybody's on the Run, I still don't think I've got as much of a buzz from any of his songs that I did from hearing Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger for the first time. Probably because i think Noel misses the power and swagger of Liam.Which probably just vindicates why I want them both together again so much. That's enough of that. We can't be having reasoned and sensible posts on threads like these. On the contrary. We need balance or we will get heated over the top debate. Let's stay balanced dude. Peace and loveeee |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 29, 2015 20:37:11 GMT -5
Ok... *scratches his head*
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Post by Johnny Rhythm on Mar 30, 2015 2:23:13 GMT -5
The can of worms have been opened. Chasing Yesterday is the best post oasis album IMO. noels first album was good, but overrated to make sure the natural consensus was it was better than Beady Eye. I mean, the first thing I see when the death of you and me comes out is the NME headline "BETTER THAN BEADY EYE". seriously even if you think that, it just proves from the off the pre conceived views of noel and liam came to the forefront. This isn't to say I don't prefer Noels albums to Beady Eye because I do. What I hate to this day is there are people you speak to who say they didn't even give Beady Eye a chance or much of a chance. While I'm guessing they sat down and gave both noel albums a real listen a few times to get into it. I think with ANY music. If you go into listening to it saying you won't like it compared to really wanting to like it,you'll very rarely prefer the former. While Noel has much stronger songs like Ballad Of The Mighty I and Everybody's on the Run, I still don't think I've got as much of a buzz from any of his songs that I did from hearing Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger for the first time. Probably because i think Noel misses the power and swagger of Liam.Which probably just vindicates why I want them both together again so much. This is bang on. |
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Post by allingoodtime on Mar 30, 2015 3:23:35 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I prefer BE too but i've made it pretty obvious that I dont like CY..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 3:24:53 GMT -5
One thing I'd agree on is that BE is an incredibly warm sounding record.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 30, 2015 3:34:39 GMT -5
I prefer BE τοο
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Post by bardes on Mar 30, 2015 4:13:50 GMT -5
For me chasing yesterday is shitty.
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Post by cigsandalc on Mar 30, 2015 4:32:09 GMT -5
Another Liam vs Noel thread... GREAT BTW i also prefer BE  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 4:41:19 GMT -5
I've just finished listening to the Japanese version cover to cover and I still love it.
For all its flaws, there's something charming and innocent about it which elevates it to another level. I can't really put into words but it's something which their first record lacked.
Do I prefer it to Chasing Yesterday? Probably not but that doesn't matter. I really like and will continue to listen to both of them. I don't see the point in picking one over the other.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 30, 2015 4:42:12 GMT -5
I like them both
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 30, 2015 5:00:22 GMT -5
I don't understand why people go mad if he says he prefer BE. It's his fucking opinion and you're not better than him. Who cares.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 30, 2015 5:07:51 GMT -5
I don't understand why people go mad if he says he prefer BE. It's his fucking opinion and you're not better than him. Who cares. it's kind of an unofficial rule on the forum: Rule #fuckyou = if someone tends to prefer Beady Eye, just say he is crazy until he might eventually lose his will and thinks only Noel is great and think that just The first two oasis records have to be on the top of the Album rankings. How ironic "you need to be yourself" |
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Mar 30, 2015 5:38:01 GMT -5
BE is a great album--probably the 2nd best post-Oasis album--but it doesn't sound as heartfelt as CY.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 30, 2015 6:36:05 GMT -5
I never liked, how the general media's putting it, Noel "the Bard with his new ballads"... and they don't mean it in a negative way. I really rate his very own distinctive classic songwriting style and sense for melodys that made him famous, prime example: Don't look Back in Anger. But with the new solo stuff, I don't really know where it fits. It doesn't fit in a club, it doesn't fit in a real "rock 'n' roll show"... Do you know what I mean? It doesn't get played much on the radio either,because it's dying a slow death. He's building on his reputation and that's what drags people into his concerts. -I listen to CY, because I can understand his conception aswell.
But he's actually cracking jokes about his relative ,who he thinks "would've never had the idea of having a saxophone on his opening track", while BE opens up with a brass orchestra.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 30, 2015 7:01:04 GMT -5
YOU'RE FUCKING CRAZY
No really,I'd take both HFB albums over it,but I actually like BE,Soon Come Tomorrow is probably in my top 5 post-Oasis songs
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 9:50:20 GMT -5
The can of worms have been opened. Chasing Yesterday is the best post oasis album IMO. noels first album was good, but overrated to make sure the natural consensus was it was better than Beady Eye. I mean, the first thing I see when the death of you and me comes out is the NME headline "BETTER THAN BEADY EYE". seriously even if you think that, it just proves from the off the pre conceived views of noel and liam came to the forefront. This isn't to say I don't prefer Noels albums to Beady Eye because I do. What I hate to this day is there are people you speak to who say they didn't even give Beady Eye a chance or much of a chance. While I'm guessing they sat down and gave both noel albums a real listen a few times to get into it. I think with ANY music. If you go into listening to it saying you won't like it compared to really wanting to like it,you'll very rarely prefer the former. While Noel has much stronger songs like Ballad Of The Mighty I and Everybody's on the Run, I still don't think I've got as much of a buzz from any of his songs that I did from hearing Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger for the first time. Probably because i think Noel misses the power and swagger of Liam.Which probably just vindicates why I want them both together again so much. I think it's because we expect great songs from Noel, if Beady Eye released Ballad of the Mighty I this place would go into meltdown probably. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 30, 2015 11:44:46 GMT -5
I've just finished listening to the Japanese version cover to cover and I still love it. For all its flaws, there's something charming and innocent about it which elevates it to another level. I can't really put into words but it's something which their first record lacked. Do I prefer it to Chasing Yesterday? Probably not but that doesn't matter. I really like and will continue to listen to both of them. I don't see the point in picking one over the other. I think innocence is a good way of describing BE. Its maybe why I felt so much more passionate about Beady Eye than I do Noel, not that Noel needs defending. Liam, even though superbly talented and the best frontman alive, still preserves that "one of us" quality. You feel as if he's still that lad from Burnage living the dream and being the rock star. For all of his songwriting flaws when he comes up with something special it means more. Its from the heart, its passionate and it comes across when you listen to it. Noel will put out What A Life, Everybody's on the run, riverman, the right stuff and as much as I will say great song, I always feel you know the man writing it is doing so because he knows what sells, what he needs to do and it really seems contrived and manufactured for the audience he knows. Nothing wrong with that but it lacks something. And that something is the passion and heart of his younger brother. |
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Mar 30, 2015 11:58:24 GMT -5
I've just finished listening to the Japanese version cover to cover and I still love it. For all its flaws, there's something charming and innocent about it which elevates it to another level. I can't really put into words but it's something which their first record lacked. Do I prefer it to Chasing Yesterday? Probably not but that doesn't matter. I really like and will continue to listen to both of them. I don't see the point in picking one over the other. I think innocence is a good way of describing BE. Its maybe why I felt so much more passionate about Beady Eye than I do Noel, not that Noel needs defending. Liam, even though superbly talented and the best frontman alive, still preserves that "one of us" quality. You feel as if he's still that lad from Burnage living the dream and being the rock star. For all of his songwriting flaws when he comes up with something special it means more. Its from the heart, its passionate and it comes across when you listen to it. Noel will put out What A Life, Everybody's on the run, riverman, the right stuff and as much as I will say great song, I always feel you know the man writing it is doing so because he knows what sells, what he needs to do and it really seems contrived and manufactured for the audience he knows. Nothing wrong with that but it lacks something. And that something is the passion and heart of his younger brother. I think Noel is like a poet writing in an established form (sonnet, haiku, etc.). He's mastered pop songcraft and is comfortable working within those parameters, but there's still lots of room for artistry within them. Beady Eye are more like outsider art, with hints of genius but also lots of incomprehensible decisions and a general lack of self awareness. I'm not sure they knew what made their good stuff "good"... It's hard to build momentum when your successes are all happy accidents, but it does lend your work a naive charm. |
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