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Post by sword on Dec 4, 2006 7:58:49 GMT -5
Sacked wasn't he? Something to do with lack of commitment? Bit harsh i thought at the time. He had been with the band 10 years and seemed a decent bloke. The period in which they sacked him was a quiet one. I found it strange at the time and i still do. Anyone know any other information?  |
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Post by globe on Dec 4, 2006 8:13:57 GMT -5
I think the long and the short of it is that Alan got bored with being in Oasis. Apparently he didnt turn up for a meeting and the rest of the band decided he had to go.
Noel has said that he was acting like a session musician so he had to go, which is pretty ironic considering thats what they now have playing the drums.
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Post by djlen74 on Dec 4, 2006 10:07:01 GMT -5
Didn't I hear something before that Noel suspected him of being the one that leaked HC?
Probably didn't help his cause much either...
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Post by Moorish on Dec 4, 2006 10:51:58 GMT -5
Didn't I hear something before that Noel suspected him of being the one that leaked HC? Probably didn't help his cause much either... I think that was just some bollocks rumour that came up at the time. I don't think anything in Alan's conduct for the near decade he was in the group would lend any credence to that. |
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Post by sword on Dec 4, 2006 11:45:41 GMT -5
In an interview (not sure who with) a couple of years ago, Liam said that Alan failed to attend Oasis meetings and would rather spend time with his girlfriend. I guess we will never know? Seems harsh though. Whether he was pushed is anyone's guess. Maybe he had enough of it all? Strange though............. |
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Post by noelliam77 on Dec 4, 2006 12:35:59 GMT -5
I read that too. Apparently Oasis wasn't as interesting as his new girlfriend.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 0:57:58 GMT -5
Wasn't there something wrong with his arms/hands as well?
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Post by masterplan200 on Dec 5, 2006 1:14:24 GMT -5
I heard he had tedonitis here (sp?)
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Post by jilliam on Dec 5, 2006 1:22:22 GMT -5
YEah, I heard them all too. Someday though, the truth will comeout. You guys really think, Liam or Noel wont do a book someday? Im sure McCaroll, Arthurs, McGuigan and White will probly ALL do books. How long do you think their royalties will last them? None of them are doing "major" shit anyways. Come 2015 will see a lot of never before rumors that arent rumors. Look at all the beatles, Elvis, Stones, Hendrix books out there. Meg'll have a nervous breakdown an do a tell all, as will Patsy.  |
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Post by Moorish on Dec 5, 2006 5:04:57 GMT -5
I heard he had tedonitis here (sp?) He denied that at the time. I think he had it before (which is why he didn't play on the Brotherly Love tour) but had an operation to correct it. When it all kicked off he said his arm was fine. Personally I think he just couldn't be arsed anymore and so the band let him go. Is a shame and he was probably surprised by it but shit happens. I do miss old Whitey though, I have to say. Top drummer. |
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Post by sword on Dec 5, 2006 5:33:15 GMT -5
I bet Noel Gallagher is not a man to cross. I reckon you piss him off, and then your out. Take a look at some of the events over the years October 1994 - Noel leaves Oasis with the tour float and heads to San Francisco for 2 weeks. May 1995 - Drummer Tony McCarrol is sacked Sept 1996 – Noel walks out on the American tour May 2000 – Noel walks out on the European tour (but decides he is playing the UK stadiums) I have actually met Noel and unfortunately he was very arrogant. I bet it doesn’t take much to piss him off. Be interesting to hear Alan Whites side of the story! |
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Dec 5, 2006 7:01:32 GMT -5
I have actually met Noel and unfortunately he was very arrogant. rule #1: never meet your heroes |
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Post by jilliam on Dec 6, 2006 0:21:30 GMT -5
I have actually met Noel and unfortunately he was very arrogant. rule #1: never meet your heroes Yeah, thats true but, sometimes you just gotta, to know they are not this "image" the press put out, or the image they themselfs put out. Ive met Noel a few times and he's been cool. Ive met Liam once and he was awesome. I would really LOVE to hear Alan's side of the story. |
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 6, 2006 8:29:44 GMT -5
The impression I got was he missed the album sessions meeting to determine what they were doing producer wise and Noel said "look if he's not into it, out with him". Now, from what I can tell, having read over a few Q&As that Alan did with Freddie Gee's drummer site before he was kicked out he was getting increasingly upset that his drums were going down so low in the mix on top of the prevalence of drum loops (ie, Go Let It Out, Gas Panic, The Hindu Times, Better Man (live)). As I recall he said "well I don't like that my drums get turned down with each successive mix we do of an album, but one musn't grumble in this band". The irony of it is that Alan supposedly misses a meeting and he's out of the band. Liam and Noel skip out on tours, specific gigs, and demo sessions (Noel does very little demoing with the rest of the band in the early stages) and Alan is the one that gets booted. So far as I can see it, Alan is the only one that showed up to everything asked of him for about 8 or 9 years. If anyone deserved slack, it was Alan. I love Zak as much as the next guy but it just doesn't feel the same to me without Alan. He was a steady force and a calming personality. If anyone in the band deserved the success they achieved with the last tour/album, it was him. Put yourself in his shoes "Well, they want me to show up to a meeting about what producer we're using? Does it matter? Noel sits in on the mix and turns me down anyway. I'll turn up, find out I'm playing along to some drum loop, then have my drums turned down, and be the one that does his job with the least recognition. Or I could work out my relationship with my girlfriend right now". He was treated terribly and I absolutely refuse to believe that the posting that said "The band has asked Alan to leave..." represented the band. This was clearly a Noel decision and not a very respectfully done one at that.
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Post by sword on Dec 6, 2006 9:20:04 GMT -5
The impression I got was he missed the album sessions meeting to determine what they were doing producer wise and Noel said "look if he's not into it, out with him". Now, from what I can tell, having read over a few Q&As that Alan did with Freddie Gee's drummer site before he was kicked out he was getting increasingly upset that his drums were going down so low in the mix on top of the prevalence of drum loops (ie, Go Let It Out, Gas Panic, The Hindu Times, Better Man (live)). As I recall he said "well I don't like that my drums get turned down with each successive mix we do of an album, but one musn't grumble in this band". The irony of it is that Alan supposedly misses a meeting and he's out of the band. Liam and Noel skip out on tours, specific gigs, and demo sessions (Noel does very little demoing with the rest of the band in the early stages) and Alan is the one that gets booted. So far as I can see it, Alan is the only one that showed up to everything asked of him for about 8 or 9 years. If anyone deserved slack, it was Alan. I love Zak as much as the next guy but it just doesn't feel the same to me without Alan. He was a steady force and a calming personality. If anyone in the band deserved the success they achieved with the last tour/album, it was him. Put yourself in his shoes "Well, they want me to show up to a meeting about what producer we're using? Does it matter? Noel sits in on the mix and turns me down anyway. I'll turn up, find out I'm playing along to some drum loop, then have my drums turned down, and be the one that does his job with the least recognition. Or I could work out my relationship with my girlfriend right now". He was treated terribly and I absolutely refuse to believe that the posting that said "The band has asked Alan to leave..." represented the band. This was clearly a Noel decision and not a very respectfully done one at that. SPOT ON! |
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Post by StepOut on Dec 6, 2006 10:52:26 GMT -5
Steve White stated on his website that Alan had lost interest in being in a band.
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Post by stevecollins on Dec 6, 2006 17:24:34 GMT -5
on another note saw paul weller the other night and steve white was bang on form |
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Post by Mad4it on Dec 6, 2006 20:07:03 GMT -5
An interview with Noel on Zane lowe(sp?) show on mtv2.
Zane asked about Alan noel said:
-"Alan missed a really important meeting, so we thought fuck it he aint interested anymore".
- he also said that "something went on between alan and liam and if its the case of going with Alan or Liam it's got to be Liam."
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 6, 2006 20:56:31 GMT -5
Something between Alan and Liam? That hasn't once been mentioned in the past 2-3 years...interesting. Find that hard to picture. Those 2 were best friends I was under the impression.
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Post by StepOut on Dec 6, 2006 23:08:05 GMT -5
That's the first I've ever heard of a rift between Liam and Alan. I don't believe it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2006 23:37:26 GMT -5
The impression I got was he missed the album sessions meeting to determine what they were doing producer wise and Noel said "look if he's not into it, out with him". Now, from what I can tell, having read over a few Q&As that Alan did with Freddie Gee's drummer site before he was kicked out he was getting increasingly upset that his drums were going down so low in the mix on top of the prevalence of drum loops (ie, Go Let It Out, Gas Panic, The Hindu Times, Better Man (live)). As I recall he said "well I don't like that my drums get turned down with each successive mix we do of an album, but one musn't grumble in this band". The irony of it is that Alan supposedly misses a meeting and he's out of the band. Liam and Noel skip out on tours, specific gigs, and demo sessions (Noel does very little demoing with the rest of the band in the early stages) and Alan is the one that gets booted. So far as I can see it, Alan is the only one that showed up to everything asked of him for about 8 or 9 years. If anyone deserved slack, it was Alan. I love Zak as much as the next guy but it just doesn't feel the same to me without Alan. He was a steady force and a calming personality. If anyone in the band deserved the success they achieved with the last tour/album, it was him. Put yourself in his shoes "Well, they want me to show up to a meeting about what producer we're using? Does it matter? Noel sits in on the mix and turns me down anyway. I'll turn up, find out I'm playing along to some drum loop, then have my drums turned down, and be the one that does his job with the least recognition. Or I could work out my relationship with my girlfriend right now". He was treated terribly and I absolutely refuse to believe that the posting that said "The band has asked Alan to leave..." represented the band. This was clearly a Noel decision and not a very respectfully done one at that. Brilliant post man. I totally agree, it's a shame that Alan is turned down so low, along with Bonehead and Guigsy at live performances, studio, etc. Fuck Noel, there are other people playing instruments!  Glad that we can actually hear Gem and Andy. |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Dec 7, 2006 5:08:11 GMT -5
An interview with Noel on Zane lowe(sp?) show on mtv2. Zane asked about Alan noel said: -"Alan missed a really important meeting, so we thought fuck it he aint interested anymore". - he also said that "something went on between alan and liam and if its the case of going with Alan or Liam it's got to be Liam." Alan and Liam were best buds in the band as far as bandmates go....but I remember Liam saying that Alan said something about his lady. |
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Post by eyebrowasis on Dec 7, 2006 12:42:13 GMT -5
Seems to me like it was more a mutual decision. Alan has been a professional musician for a long time. (pretty much his whole adult life) I think Alan was just drained, and Noel couldnt be bothered with someone who wasn't in it all the way (as the days of quitting tours and not showing up for gigs seems to be behind the band) So the decision was made for Alan to leave. I do miss him though, he's a great drummer.
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Post by reeny1987 on Dec 8, 2006 2:25:38 GMT -5
do you think it has anything to do with alan being a geezer and gem and andy being toffs and the fact that liam and noel have now sort of toned down their attidude and wild ways when bonehead and guigsy left???
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 8, 2006 7:29:58 GMT -5
I don't think so at all. The most trouble Alan himself has ever found himself in was in the bar where Liam got his teeth kicked out. Alan was the one who always made a point about the drinking and drugs getting in the way of the music (see: Behind the Music).
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Glad that we can actually hear Gem and Andy.
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