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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 23, 2015 12:41:12 GMT -5
Can't believe after all these years people expect Noel to be able to pick any sort of song list.
Even to this day we are getting "throwaway" songs on albums instead of stronger b-sides. And we don't need to bring up how disastrous some choices in the 90s proved to be.
As far as setlists go, we always had about 100 gigs identical on each tour. Call it laziness, whatever it was, you went to one gig and you'd seen them all. As great of an experience as it might have been.
If Oasis got back together you could literally pick a set of 22 absolute anthems that everyone would sing along to. Would we get it? Absolutely not. We'd get Meaning Of Soul instead of stop crying your heart out or a noel version of its good to be free instead of stand by me. Just the way it is.
No different to the solo career. Having said that I'm not a fan of him changing songs liam sang. Not because he can't do it. But because he has to change the melody and almost completely suck the life out of the songs. All influenced by the dreadful Ryan Adams Wonderwall cover.the only thing that saves the performances and makes them sound great is the anthemic atmosphere of the crowds
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 23, 2015 12:45:41 GMT -5
Can't believe after all these years people expect Noel to be able to pick any sort of song list. Even to this day we are getting "throwaway" songs on albums instead of stronger b-sides. And we don't need to bring up how disastrous some choices in the 90s proved to be. As far as setlists go, we always had about 100 gigs identical on each tour. Call it laziness, whatever it was, you went to one gig and you'd seen them all. As great of an experience as it might have been. If Oasis got back together you could literally pick a set of 22 absolute anthems that everyone would sing along to. Would we get it? Absolutely not. We'd get Meaning Of Soul instead of stop crying your heart out or a noel version of its good to be free instead of stand by me. Just the way it is. No different to the solo career. Having said that I'm not a fan of him changing songs liam sang. Not because he can't do it. But because he has to change the melody and almost completely suck the life out of the songs. All influenced by the dreadful Ryan Adams Wonderwall cover. the only thing that saves the performances and makes them sound great is the anthemic atmosphere of the crowdsWhich,if you read his interviews or attend one of his gigs,is actually what those performance are all about Anyway,I have to say I wasn't impressed with Do The Damage when I saw videos on youtube,but then when I saw him live it blew me away,it's a great opener Actually the weakest songs on the set (Dream On,Digsy's,ITHOTM,The Mexican) are some of those that work better live,and DTD is no exception |
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Post by 4everlife on Mar 23, 2015 12:46:44 GMT -5
I fail to understand the hate towards Dream On. It's my favorite of the first album.
Setlist should be rotated though, that's for sure. Oh, and taking Freaky Teeth out was a colossal mistake.
Is he still playing TDOYAM?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 23, 2015 12:47:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah Freaky Teeth should be back
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 23, 2015 12:49:56 GMT -5
Can't believe after all these years people expect Noel to be able to pick any sort of song list. Even to this day we are getting "throwaway" songs on albums instead of stronger b-sides. And we don't need to bring up how disastrous some choices in the 90s proved to be. As far as setlists go, we always had about 100 gigs identical on each tour. Call it laziness, whatever it was, you went to one gig and you'd seen them all. As great of an experience as it might have been. If Oasis got back together you could literally pick a set of 22 absolute anthems that everyone would sing along to. Would we get it? Absolutely not. We'd get Meaning Of Soul instead of stop crying your heart out or a noel version of its good to be free instead of stand by me. Just the way it is. No different to the solo career. Having said that I'm not a fan of him changing songs liam sang. Not because he can't do it. But because he has to change the melody and almost completely suck the life out of the songs. All influenced by the dreadful Ryan Adams Wonderwall cover. the only thing that saves the performances and makes them sound great is the anthemic atmosphere of the crowdsWhich,if you read his interviews or attend one of his gigs,is actually what those performance are all about Anyway,I have to say I wasn't impressed with Do The Damage when I saw videos on youtube,but then when I saw him live it blew me away,it's a great opener Actually the weakest songs on the set (Dream On,Digsy's,ITHOTM,The Mexican) are some of those that work better live,and DTD is no exception Sing it with the same melody then. It doesn't even sound remotely good when he changes the verses to any of his songs live. And the crowd are always going to sing the original way |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 23, 2015 12:54:21 GMT -5
Which,if you read his interviews or attend one of his gigs,is actually what those performance are all about Anyway,I have to say I wasn't impressed with Do The Damage when I saw videos on youtube,but then when I saw him live it blew me away,it's a great opener Actually the weakest songs on the set (Dream On,Digsy's,ITHOTM,The Mexican) are some of those that work better live,and DTD is no exception Sing it with the same melody then. It doesn't even sound remotely good when he changes the verses to any of his songs live. And the crowd are always going to sing the original way Last time I checked he wrote those songs If he wants to sing them one way then he will,if you don't like it okay |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Mar 23, 2015 13:07:42 GMT -5
Opening with a Heathen Chemistry song? Mmm... how should I put it?  Dear troll, the singles from HC are MEGA. I respectfully disagree. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 23, 2015 13:50:48 GMT -5
Didn't he say in an interview before the tour something about not doing obscure Oasis songs because people wouldn't know them? I personally think he should do for the fans that have followed him from Oasis and all the years. Imagine him suddenly belting out a "Going Nowhere" or "It's Better People" or anything off Be Here Now or Standing?
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Post by tatomoon on Mar 23, 2015 14:02:49 GMT -5
Some Might Say would be a nice replacement for Digsy's Dinner which has been given its runout now. Especially on the US Tour. Digsy's Dinner has a nice rocking nature though, would work well at the festivals.  Lock All The Doors would be best placed just after CS too, just the right time for it in terms of the crowd's mood. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 23, 2015 15:06:08 GMT -5
Sing it with the same melody then. It doesn't even sound remotely good when he changes the verses to any of his songs live. And the crowd are always going to sing the original way Last time I checked he wrote those songs If he wants to sing them one way then he will,if you don't like it okay Oh believe me I don't believe for a minute that my opinion as a fan means anything to Noel Gallagher |
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Post by nutsngum on Mar 23, 2015 15:30:12 GMT -5
Lock All The Doors was one of the songs of the night when I saw him in Manchester. Really packs a punch live.
In an ideal world Noel would rotate the Oasis songs around - he could have maybe 15 songs or so rehearsed with the band and they'd stick 5 in every night. I think Fade Away for example is just a bit of a wasted spot personally, Digsy's Dinner too although that has had positive responses (I didn't care for it at the gig I was at). Masterplan, Don't Look Back In Anger (he has to play that, especially at the bigger gigs), and Champagne Supernova were all great moments.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 23, 2015 15:49:50 GMT -5
Noel should do a "Pleasure & Pain" tour. Twin shows where one night is Pleasure and the other Pain. Two completely different shows and set lists in the same venue.
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Post by derektrotter on Mar 23, 2015 16:12:39 GMT -5
I wait for...
Shout it out loud
While the song remains the same
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Post by paperbackwriter on Mar 23, 2015 16:20:03 GMT -5
well, we have to think of two separate setlists here... one that noel would play for massive Oasis fans, like us, and another one for the general public. For the latter, I think we got a taste of it on the final gigs of his last tour, with idlers dream, alone on the rope etc. That would be a much better setlist for us.
For the general public is what weve been getting... He could swap one song or two, but it wouldnt make that big a difference
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 23, 2015 16:38:05 GMT -5
The whole "casual fans won't know the obscure songs" is fine and all for the arenas, he just better play a few rarities at the TCT gig!
Going Nowhere
Underneath The Sky
Roll It Over
All should be played.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Mar 23, 2015 17:39:14 GMT -5
To be fair he did experiment a bit for the first few gigs, and I think the songs he's picked are the right ones.
It is frustrating though, not only does have an amazing back catalogue that he completely ignores, but a back catalogue that is largely unheard of in the way he'd play them as we're used to hearing Liam blasting them out for years
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Post by World71R on Mar 23, 2015 17:40:13 GMT -5
Didn't he say in an interview before the tour something about not doing obscure Oasis songs because people wouldn't know them? I personally think he should do for the fans that have followed him from Oasis and all the years. Imagine him suddenly belting out a "Going Nowhere" or "It's Better People" or anything off Be Here Now or Standing? I still wait for the day where Gas Panic gets played live with all the bass grooves, Mellotron strings, and flute players thrown at it. That'd be epic. |
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Post by World71R on Mar 23, 2015 17:41:10 GMT -5
To be fair he did experiment a bit for the first few gigs, and I think the songs he's picked are the right ones. It is frustrating though, not only does have an amazing back catalogue that he completely ignores, but a back catalogue that is largely unheard of in the way he'd play them as we're used to hearing Liam blasting them out for yearsEx: Live Forever played in an acoustic form |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Mar 23, 2015 17:45:59 GMT -5
Noel has about 50 songs good enough to deserve a spot in the setlist. He can't please everybody.
You could easily put together a second, brillant setlist with all the Noel-written songs he doesn't play at the moment.
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Post by importantlyidle on Mar 24, 2015 8:34:11 GMT -5
well, we have to think of two separate setlists here... one that noel would play for massive Oasis fans, like us, and another one for the general public. For the latter, I think we got a taste of it on the final gigs of his last tour, with idlers dream, alone on the rope etc. That would be a much better setlist for us. For the general public is what weve been getting... He could swap one song or two, but it wouldnt make that big a difference The thing is even that would be something no 2 people on here would agree with, let alone thousands of us  The only HFB ones i'd change as it stands is Stranded On The Wrong Beach for Freaky Teeth and The Death Of You And Me for A Simple Game Of Genius, but other people would pick something different there even The Oasis ones i'd take out Fade Away, Digsy's Dinner and Champagne Supernova (it was good to hear it again but it'll soon bore the tears out of me in this form) and put 2 songs we haven't heard for at least 10 years like Some Might Say and Gas Panic then add something like Falling Down (I really do think that would fit in well with the HFB stuff) in but others would want something like Idler's Dream or some other slower B-side which i'm not really a fan of. No matter what he does he'll never please us all |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 24, 2015 8:59:21 GMT -5
Yeah not gonna happen. As if he'd ever take out his first solo single for something boring like ASGO
And Wrong Beach is awesome live.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 24, 2015 9:03:47 GMT -5
how can you get bored of this?
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Post by warewolf95 on Mar 24, 2015 9:36:50 GMT -5
I really like the set. Of course I'd love some rarities etc., but you just gotta respect him a little for playing the majority of both of his albums. 8 from Chasing Yesterday and 7 from HFB. For a guy that could make half his set Oasis tracks that's pretty cool and I like the set. Glad to see the HFB tracks weren't forgotten from existance after their initial outing. Freaky Teeth should still be in the set though, imo Also, I REALLY wasn't expecting the new arrangement of CS to be so good. |
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Post by warewolf95 on Mar 24, 2015 9:39:18 GMT -5
Yeah not gonna happen. As if he'd ever take out his first solo single for something boring like ASGO And Wrong Beach is awesome live. For Noel, this is a relatively ballsy setlist. As I said in my above post, playing most of your solo albums when he could easily rely on many more Oasis tracks is something to be respected, imo. |
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Post by importantlyidle on Mar 24, 2015 10:00:42 GMT -5
how can you get bored of this? It's about preferences, I don't know how old you are but i'm in my mid 30's and though it is nice to hear CS played again when you've heard Liam nail it in the 90's it's just never going to be the same. I personally prefer louder stuff and others prefer acoustics, slowed down versions ect; (I don't mind it from time to time mind) and other people are different which is the point I was trying to make in my post that there wouldn't be a single agreement in any set list posted on here, just as the replies to my post have proved |
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The only HFB ones i'd change as it stands is Stranded On The Wrong Beach for Freaky Teeth and The Death Of You And Me for A Simple Game Of Genius, but other people would pick something different there even 
