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Post by paperbackwriter on Mar 18, 2015 18:28:30 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this. I mean, Ashcroft has the songs, and Liam the character. They should call each other and form a band... just saying
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 18:29:27 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher's High Flying Verves
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 18, 2015 18:44:51 GMT -5
It'd be great to here something from both of them, however does Ashcroft need Liam? I'm sure Ashcroft would provide a much better vocal live and possibly in the studio too. Bar acoustic strumming, something I'm sure Ashcroft could do in his sleep, I doubt Liam could add anything instrumentally. It would be cool though!
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Post by paperbackwriter on Mar 18, 2015 18:57:08 GMT -5
Liam could add the hype... I dont know how big ashcroft solo is in the uk, but over here, in Brazil, nobody knows him. Couldnt he gain some visibility?
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Post by carryusall on Mar 18, 2015 19:15:28 GMT -5
Ashcroft's voice is quite similar to Liam's... Didn't they wrote a song together for the Death in Vegas sessions, 'Down into the Universe' or something? Or was that just something people talked about, it was years ago now
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Post by Manualex on Mar 18, 2015 19:57:09 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher's High Flying Verves LG/RPA & The united nations of BDI's
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Post by Jack on Mar 18, 2015 20:28:32 GMT -5
Lichard Ashcrallagher
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Post by Adam on Mar 18, 2015 20:34:56 GMT -5
It'd be great for Liam to work with others, but I doubt this would be the sole factor to gain any success. Sad as it may be, the music industry has moved on and releasing good music is no longer the key to gain sales due to the change in the market and the easy ways to download music for free. The charting system has changed dramatically and even his previous endeavours with Beady Eye failed to register much of a difference when it came to sales.
BE showed a willingness to adapt. I hope he continues down the exploratory route and that he works hard at what he produces. Regardless of the chorus debate, he's proven he can write good songs with Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud, Pass Me Down the Wine, I'm Outta Time, Start Anew and Evil Eye to name a few. Some of his songs need work, others need a lot of work, but he can write decent songs given the chance.
You only need to look to the inclusion of Kanye West as a Glastonbury headliner for confirmation that the music industry has changed. Of course, it's been changing slowly over the years so we shouldn't be surprised. However, the days of Rock n Roll may have passed so he can't solely rely on his past endeavours to enjoy the same successes he was previously accustomed to.
I hope Liam takes his time and produces something that isn't rushed and also does him proud. Hopefully he'll continue on improving his public perception by doing more bits like the Comic Relief sketch, but also works the tabloids like his brother does and gain more positive interest through that.
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 18, 2015 20:48:38 GMT -5
Ashcroft is a much better songwriter than Liam and also a better singer. I don't see what Liam would contribute to this collaboration.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:51:25 GMT -5
Ashcroft is a much better songwriter than Liam and also a better singer. I don't see what Liam would contribute to this collaboration. Nobody plays the tambourine like Liam.
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Mar 18, 2015 23:24:22 GMT -5
Ashcroft is pretty overrated IMO, and most of his stuff has aged poorly.
I'd rather Liam work with someone more relevant. And if Liam isn't going to write his own stuff, he should find someone who writes better melodies than Ashcroft.
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Post by wozdareden on Mar 19, 2015 1:27:44 GMT -5
Well I think Noel should do something with Ashcroft.
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 19, 2015 1:42:01 GMT -5
Ashcroft is a much better songwriter than Liam and also a better singer. I don't see what Liam would contribute to this collaboration. Nobody plays the tambourine like Liam. True that.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 19, 2015 4:52:09 GMT -5
Ashcroft is a much better songwriter than Liam and also a better singer. I don't see what Liam would contribute to this collaboration. Nobody plays the tambourine like Liam. Joel gion!
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 19, 2015 6:02:56 GMT -5
Nobody plays the tambourine like Liam. Joel gion! Might aswell work with him, ha!
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Post by carryusall on Mar 19, 2015 6:35:40 GMT -5
Ashcroft is a much better songwriter than Liam and also a better singer. I don't see what Liam would contribute to this collaboration. Nobody plays the tambourine like Liam. Best tambourine playing I've ever heard:
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 19, 2015 13:58:11 GMT -5
Ian Brown would be better #LIAN Lets get it trending on twitter. Ian Brown & Liam Gallagher LIAN! LIAN! LIAN! I can hear it now, covered in piss and beer
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Mar 19, 2015 16:48:52 GMT -5
The perfect partner for Liam is John Squire.
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Post by scott1 on Mar 20, 2015 15:48:35 GMT -5
I'e be unsure about a Liam/Richard effort.
Ashcroft works best in his own little universe - Liam would throw that out of balance and send Richard on a mad one until, by chance, a gem of a song suddenly appears. But seriously, the idea seems too far fetched right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 15:57:00 GMT -5
i love them both obviously liam more ...but to me that connection wouldnt work imo its like having two quarterbacks there both mainly singers i think liam needs a solid gutarist. who can help him write, mind you i would buy that lp in a second , i just dont think the chemistry wopuld work
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Post by scott1 on Mar 20, 2015 16:01:08 GMT -5
i love them both obviously liam more ...but to me that connection wouldnt work imo its like having two quarterbacks there both mainly singers i think liam needs a solid gutarist. who can help him write, mind you i would buy that lp in a second , i just dont think the chemistry wopuld work Considering the scene they both came from, I think that they're two polar opposite characters musically speaking - Ashcroft would never be heard writing a "Liam" type of song, and vice versa. Liam also clearly thrives on the perks of being Liam, whereas Richard has perfected that air of mystery.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 20, 2015 16:53:38 GMT -5
im a huge fan of liam,,although some of his songs are a tad bit middle of the road the meaning of soul has alright music but the lyrics are a bit shit same goes for aint got nothing they both sound the same,,i did like man of misery even though some lyrics are just song titles "the kids are alright and ticket to ride" but then agian noel did it on DYKWIM with fool on the hill and i feel fine ,,his songs on BE were great to think he wrote the music for flick of the finger still stuns me to this day (unless he had help) and soul love is a good tune my favourite is evil eye i think if liam tried to write a liam tune and not a lennon esq rip off he might get somewhere,BOADC and songbird are really good i just dont think he could carry a solo album without help ialways wanted a song co written by both gallaghers when oasis were together but both egos would clash like fuck,,he shouldnt of threw in the towel with beady eye he should of ran the course for at least one more lp to see if the sound could of moved on more DGSS was just an oasis album with no noel BE was the sound of them finding their feet now he's bandless when there was no need to jack it in,,i just hope we havnt seen the last of him but where as noel done arenas no problem on his 1st tour and on this tour,,i somehow cant see LG doin a solo album and selling out a tour in uk arenas he was his strongest in oasis cos we got the full package,,,dont know if this makes sense to anyone reading it,,it did to me while i typed it
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 20, 2015 17:00:43 GMT -5
im a huge fan of liam,,although some of his songs are a tad bit middle of the road the meaning of soul has alright music but the lyrics are a bit shit same goes for aint got nothing they both sound the same,,i did like man of misery even though some lyrics are just song titles "the kids are alright and ticket to ride" but then agian noel did it on DYKWIM with fool on the hill and i feel fine ,,his songs on BE were great to think he wrote the music for flick of the finger still stuns me to this day (unless he had help) and soul love is a good tune my favourite is evil eye i think if liam tried to write a liam tune and not a lennon esq rip off he might get somewhere,BOADC and songbird are really good i just dont think he could carry a solo album without help ialways wanted a song co written by both gallaghers when oasis were together but both egos would clash like fuck,,he shouldnt of threw in the towel with beady eye he should of ran the course for at least one more lp to see if the sound could of moved on more DGSS was just an oasis album with no noel BE was the sound of them finding their feet now he's bandless when there was no need to jack it in,,i just hope we havnt seen the last of him but where as noel done arenas no problem on his 1st tour and on this tour,,i somehow cant see LG doin a solo album and selling out a tour in uk arenas he was his strongest in oasis cos we got the full package,,,dont know if this makes sense to anyone reading it,,it did to me while i typed it And breathe
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 20, 2015 17:15:46 GMT -5
im a huge fan of liam,,although some of his songs are a tad bit middle of the road the meaning of soul has alright music but the lyrics are a bit shit same goes for aint got nothing they both sound the same,,i did like man of misery even though some lyrics are just song titles "the kids are alright and ticket to ride" but then agian noel did it on DYKWIM with fool on the hill and i feel fine ,,his songs on BE were great to think he wrote the music for flick of the finger still stuns me to this day (unless he had help) and soul love is a good tune my favourite is evil eye i think if liam tried to write a liam tune and not a lennon esq rip off he might get somewhere,BOADC and songbird are really good i just dont think he could carry a solo album without help ialways wanted a song co written by both gallaghers when oasis were together but both egos would clash like fuck,,he shouldnt of threw in the towel with beady eye he should of ran the course for at least one more lp to see if the sound could of moved on more DGSS was just an oasis album with no noel BE was the sound of them finding their feet now he's bandless when there was no need to jack it in,,i just hope we havnt seen the last of him but where as noel done arenas no problem on his 1st tour and on this tour,,i somehow cant see LG doin a solo album and selling out a tour in uk arenas he was his strongest in oasis cos we got the full package,,,dont know if this makes sense to anyone reading it,,it did to me while i typed it And breathe i stopped to go get a beer lol im just on the fence with LG and the whole solo deal
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 20, 2015 17:53:57 GMT -5
i stopped to go get a beer lol im just on the fence with LG and the whole solo deal Ye I agree with most of what you said to be honest! Even if he did manage to write or co-write a top class album, he still wouldn't sell out arenas just cos of who he is. I hope he does something in the public eye but can't see it myself!
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