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If I Had Gun Demo / Album Version Discussion Jan 11, 2016 16:27:35 GMT -5 Lennon2217, World71R, and 1 more like this

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Jan 11, 2016 16:10:53 GMT -5 Lennon2217 said:

Jan 11, 2016 15:58:28 GMT -5 liamgallagher1992 said:

I think Sardy is the prime example of modern day Noel Gallagher.

Noel seen the success of DBTT, in particular the success of the singles and thought Sardy was the way forward.

Anyone, including Noel Gallagher, can see how much life was sucked out of the production of the albums he worked on. But sales figures and commercial significance means so much more to Noel.

The irony is the two big singles off DBTT have nothing to do with Dave Sardy. Written and produced before he came on board.

I remember thinking actually Importance Of Being Idle is one of my favourite produced Oasis songs and then i found out soon after it was produced before Sardy and it just made me hate the man even more.

I think if we are to look for any credit for the man, on some songs the cleanliness (if thats the right word) being able to hear each instrument gives the songs a nice feel that maybe some overblown tracks from the 90s could have benefited from. But in the main this is a sort of one trick pony approach and his production with Noel has actually nearly ruined songs for me.

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If I Had Gun Demo / Album Version Discussion Jan 11, 2016 16:54:41 GMT -5 via mobile mossy, World71R, and 1 more like this

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Jan 11, 2016 16:37:07 GMT -5 Mean Mrs. Mustard said:

Which is why I was very pleased he wasn't available for CY and probably isn't working with Noel on the next album either.

It still makes me shudder that the only reason he wasn't producer was because he actually turned Noel down.

The sad thing is Noel will probably look at sales of CY compared to his debut and ask Sardy back.

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Jan 11, 2016 16:54:41 GMT -5 liamgallagher1992 said:

Jan 11, 2016 16:37:07 GMT -5 Mean Mrs. Mustard said:

Which is why I was very pleased he wasn't available for CY and probably isn't working with Noel on the next album either.

I've thought about that too. Let's just hope he won't make that connection!
Bu the sound of it at least they're not working together on the next one.

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If I Had Gun Demo / Album Version Discussion Jan 11, 2016 17:24:14 GMT -5 World71R and mystoryisgory like this

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Post by glider on Jan 11, 2016 17:24:14 GMT -5

People need to remember the difference between mixing and mastering. You can have a great, uncompressed fresh mix of a song with great clarity and separation of instruments, with a high dynamic range, be completely obliterated and smashed to the peak 0 decibel limit right before clipping just to make it loud. Lyla and TIOBI may have not been mixed and produced by Sardy, but whoever mastered DBTT should slap themselves, especially on A Bell Will Ring and Mucky Fingers. Brickwall mastering is dangerous and damages the quality of music.

Sardy obviously had his fingers all over DOYS and it shows on Shock of the Lightning. The vinyl rip is evident that in the mixing he made it as loud as possible, and by the mastering phase just even more louder.

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If I Had Gun Demo / Album Version Discussion Jan 11, 2016 18:08:35 GMT -5 via mobile Lennon2217 and mystoryisgory like this

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Jan 11, 2016 16:37:07 GMT -5 Mean Mrs. Mustard said:

Which is why I was very pleased he wasn't available for CY and probably isn't working with Noel on the next album either.

Until Noel cancels that album for being too quiet ;-P

Joking aside, really looking forward to hearing what David Holmes (or whoever) comes up with.

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If I Had Gun Demo / Album Version Discussion Jan 12, 2016 11:58:15 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 12, 2016 11:58:15 GMT -5

Noel should remember that the Beatles would have been nobody without George Martin. Just as there would've been no Oasis without Owen Morris. Even the most talented artists need a talented producer to take the songs they write and shape them into something with its own distinctive sound.

This post is over. So look past the end.

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If I Had Gun Demo / Album Version Discussion (Read 4,449 times)

Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 11, 2016 16:27:35 GMT -5

Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 11, 2016 16:37:07 GMT -5

Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jan 11, 2016 16:54:41 GMT -5

Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 11, 2016 16:59:01 GMT -5

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