That's the way it should be done. Marketing is everything.

Yes it is.

I do agree with this but to be fair Liam has done the same thing in the past. It's not hard to understand that both brothers have been saying some nasty things and that Liam is as guilty as Noel.

Some examples (tweets from October 2016 which were since deleted):


Just saying, eh! We have to see the whole picture.

You think Noel is stupid enough to honestly insinuate that? He's making a joke. He's poking fun at himself by absurdly shifting blame on his brothers fans. It's obvious to me.

No, I think he's rattled enough to do that.

The topic was "everything wrong with the album". You hadn't even listened to it because you objected to it being co-written. Right off the bat, you were hijacking a discussion about music.





1. The album hadn’t even been released yet. I understand that people heard the album via a leak but I hadn’t. So I’m sorry for not talking about music that I was not in a position to actually hear yet and instead talk about what it was that I knew about the album that made me either want or not want to listen to it (and given that the thread was about what was wrong with the album, I was specifically talking about the latter)

2. I think it’s fair to evaluate an album based on who made it. To give an example, I am not particularly interested in listening to the next Hanson album, if there will be one. Now maybe it will be amazing and maybe I’ll read things about it that pique my interests. But, for now, I’m not interested in it. And if someone said, “Why? What’s wrong with it?” I think it would be perfectly legitimate to say, “Hanson made it.”

3. Suppose, then, that I didn’t write my thoughts in that thread and instead created my own thread titled “The Reasons For Not Listening to As You Were.” Do you honestly believe I wouldn’t have received any responses saying, “We already have an Everything Wrong with As You Were thread, do we really need this one?” I honestly believed I was doing the right thing by not clogging the board up with threads about problems with the album.



Again, you weren't discussing what was wrong with the album, you were just complaining about Liam



Saying that I don’t think Liam is a “creative artist” is not a complaint about him. I don’t find singing songs other people write to really be an act of creativity on the same level as songwriting. But that’s not a complaint. He did a great job singing those songs. Mike Love did a great job singing Beach Boys songs and he even co-wrote a lot of their greatest songs. But he’s nowhere near the creative artist that Brian Wilson is. That's why I am far more interested in listening to Brian Wilson's solo work than I am Mike Love's. In fact, I'm sure I would never actively seek out Mike Love's solo work.


By that time, you'd posted five times in an hour.


I posted four times in an hour. So did Walter Glass during the same hour. Do you know why? Because we were having a conversation! To make a complaint about the amount of posts I made in an hour when the person I was talking to had the same amount of posts and was the one who kept asking me for more information is absurd.



But the real kicker is that you kept arguing about increasingly unrelated things for the next two pages, while simultaneously claiming not to have any time to check the album out and at least form an educated opinion.

Like every person, there’s lots of things that I don’t have an educated opinion on: Cartesian logic, pre-Raphaelite art, South American politics, physics, etc. etc. And the fact is that I don’t have the time to gain an educated opinion on all of them, let alone every recording that comes out. Ultimately, I have to choose what I’m most interested in decide from there how to spend my time. I’m sorry to say this but you too make decisions about what you are going to have an educated opinion on and just because you don’t have time to form an educated opinion on things that are less interesting than other things, doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t participate in the things that are more interesting to you like, say, talking on a message board.


Anyway, I'm dropping this now. But I think all of this should demonstrate how open the Liam boards are.

I think some might need a whole box of Snickers. And some calming pills. And a straitjacket.

Pretty sure I recall a "beige vaginas" comment at some point also.

already mine mate.

This is exactly my thoughts too. I'm not annoyed by "parka monkey", I'm pissed off at his arrogance and lack of respect towards the fans.

Noel is going full heel now that Liam is the babyface

I AM a parka monkey