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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 20, 2015 6:29:50 GMT -5
The best sounding song on the first album was "The Death of You and Me", even if you don't particularly like the song you can't deny that it sounds crisp and fresh and every instrument is audible and it's the only song on the album that Sardy didn't touch. Noel produced it himself, speaks volumes, Sardy ruined the first album. Buried everything in bass, the drums are way too loud, everything is so basic, so unimaginative, the cd sounds like a 128kbp mp3 rip. Noel will never work with this man again, thank fuck he's gone. The Death Of You And Me is the only one that sounds good, that has a bit of colour and depth. I had no idea that Noel produced that one himself. Always thought it was strange how Sardy did one song right and fucked up the rest. Broken Arrow is okay too. Now let me guess, there are only a few songs that sound great on DBTT. The Importance Of Being Idle for instance. My thoughts after this were that he probably produced that one himself too. And I was right! Geez. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Feb 20, 2015 6:41:11 GMT -5
Now let me guess, there are only a few songs that sound great on DBTT. The Importance Of Being Idle for instance. My thoughts after this were that he probably produced that one himself too. And I was right! Geez. Yup, The Importance Of Being Idle on the album is basically the demo. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 7:05:06 GMT -5
So basically, on every Sardy produced album, there is at least one song that sounds better than the others. This also happens to be the song that he had nothing to do with.
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Feb 20, 2015 7:08:12 GMT -5
I'm just glad that Sardy has finally fucked off
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 20, 2015 7:08:56 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 20, 2015 7:46:52 GMT -5
So basically, on every Sardy produced album, there is at least one song that sounds better than the others. This also happens to be the song that he had nothing to do with. That's exactly my conclusion. Coincidence? I think not. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 9:07:57 GMT -5
Self production is clearly the way forward for Noel with the way he labours over each release. I think Sardy was just there first time around due to a lack of confidence on Noel's part.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 10:44:13 GMT -5
Serious question: what's the problem with the production on 'If I Had a Gun'?
I agree that the second HFB album sounds wayyyyy better in terms of production, but still, not really seeing the problem with IIHAG.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 20, 2015 11:00:18 GMT -5
Serious question: what's the problem with the production on 'If I Had a Gun'? I agree that the second HFB album sounds wayyyyy better in terms of production, but still, not really seeing the problem with IIHAG. The song should be delicate and the drums are heavy as fuck. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2015 11:06:14 GMT -5
Serious question: what's the problem with the production on 'If I Had a Gun'? I agree that the second HFB album sounds wayyyyy better in terms of production, but still, not really seeing the problem with IIHAG. A lot of the production sounds murky, muddled and rushed. Hardly any separation of instruments. It seems to grand for the simple nature of the song. I'm sure someone like Nigel Godrich could really do wonders for a track like this. Think "Lost Cause" by Beck or anything from Travis' Man Who. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2015 11:06:46 GMT -5
DAVE SARDY TREATS OBJECTS LIKE WOMEN.
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Post by ariananana on Feb 20, 2015 11:29:10 GMT -5
Well let's be happy that Sardy rejected Noel's request for him to produce chasing yesterday. Obviously, noel doesn't think there was a problem hahaha.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2015 11:46:17 GMT -5
Well let's be happy that Sardy rejected Noel's request for him to produce chasing yesterday. Obviously, noel doesn't think there was a problem hahaha. I'm personally under the belief I scared Sardy away. He is a savvy guy and reads this forum. He's seen the hate. He knows it's best to part ways. You should all be thanking me. I'm not even kidding either. You are all welcome!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 11:48:51 GMT -5
Well let's be happy that Sardy rejected Noel's request for him to produce chasing yesterday. Obviously, noel doesn't think there was a problem hahaha. I'm personally under the belief I scared Sardy away. He is a savvy guy and reads this forum. He's seen the hate. He knows it's best to part ways. You should all be thanking me. I'm not even kidding either. You are all welcome! So...in a way, part of this album's greatness is down to you. I always suspected as much. |
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Post by matt on Feb 20, 2015 11:49:02 GMT -5
The best sounding song on the first album was "The Death of You and Me", even if you don't particularly like the song you can't deny that it sounds crisp and fresh and every instrument is audible and it's the only song on the album that Sardy didn't touch. Noel produced it himself, speaks volumes, Sardy ruined the first album. Buried everything in bass, the drums are way too loud, everything is so basic, so unimaginative, the cd sounds like a 128kbp mp3 rip. Noel will never work with this man again, thank fuck he's gone. This. This is the way for the Oasis records produced by Sardy - everything is flat, and muffled. That is really distinctive when you are listening to it through headphones. Dig Out Your Soul is a rock record so attempts that big sound of the first three Oasis albums but it sounds as if you are listening to an Owens Morris produced record from behind closed doors, or as you say, a poor quality mp3 rip. In addition to this, the slow plodding heavy sound of Let There Be Love, I'm Outta Time and If I Had A Gun shows a trend that there had to be at least one really nice song tramped all over in the production studio and having the soul sucked out of it. Some on here may say 'if you think you know better, then why don't you do it yourself'. Hey look, I'm useless at football, so Emile Heskey is a way way better footballer than me - but I know for a fact that Lionel Messi is better! And likewise, I know there are far far better producers than Dave Sardy out there because I've heard them! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2015 11:51:18 GMT -5
I'm personally under the belief I scared Sardy away. He is a savvy guy and reads this forum. He's seen the hate. He knows it's best to part ways. You should all be thanking me. I'm not even kidding either. You are all welcome! So...in a way, part of this album's greatness is down to you. I always suspected as much. I wouldn't be shocked to see Lennon2217 in the album credits. I actually expect it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 11:53:33 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the reasons Noel liked Sardy to begin with, was that he ordered two pints of Stella when they first met? I remember Noel saying that if he'd got the drinks wrong then he wouldn't work with him. Whether this is Noel taking the piss or not, I still wonder how differently things would have been if he'd ordered two Cosmopolitans instead.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2015 11:55:30 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the reasons Noel liked Sardy to begin with, was that he ordered two pints of Stella when they first met? I remember Noel saying that if he'd got the drinks wrong then he wound't work with him. Whether this is Noel taking the piss or not, I still wonder how different things would have been if he'd ordered two Cosmopolitans instead. I believe the line was that after Sardy ordered a Stella, Noel said "Liam's gonna fucking love him!". |
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Post by glider on Feb 20, 2015 13:04:20 GMT -5
I don't think Sardy is all that bad actually. Yeah, he screwed up If I Had A Gun... but I loved how the ancient Stop the Clocks turned out, and I appreciate what eventually came of Record Machine, for the most part at least. I do agree though that Noel should produce his future albums. I mean if he's capable of doing so then the extra time in the studio is well worth it, as we can tell with Chasing Yesterday. I'd rather listen to the album mix of IIHAG than Sardy's take on Stop the Clocks and Record Machine. I can't stand the choirs on RM and the chings on STC. |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 20, 2015 14:06:34 GMT -5
I think the main problem with Sardy is that he isn't consistent, on the same album you can find well produced songs by him, but also both underporduced and overproduced songs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2015 14:38:21 GMT -5
I think the main problem with Sardy is that he isn't consistent, on the same album you can find well produced songs by him, but also both underporduced and overproduced songs. A lot of the "well produced" songs actually turn out to have nothing to do with him. |
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Post by Adam on Feb 20, 2015 15:32:24 GMT -5
.... BREAKING NEWS ...
Eight years earlier, Noel Gallagher kicked the cocaine habit. But in 2005, he found himself trapped in the grasp of something more lethal which threatened to ruin his career and legacy altogether - the little known street drug called 'Sardy'.
Gallagher, then 37, found himself in a corner. After promoting a new release with a new direction, Gallagher was not happy with the results Death In Vegas had produced after being in the studio with his band, Oasis. He was desperate and at his wits end, when someone came up with a quick fix. Gallagher turned to Sardy.
Although many haven't used Sardy, the affects can be severely harmful. It can impair judgement, restrict creativity and results in bland productivity.
Thankfully, due to the limited availability of the drug, Mr Gallagher was unable to get a fix. After seeking the help of others but only finding refusals wherever he went, Mr Gallagher had no choice but to go cold turkey and rely on himself.
Noel Gallagher has been Sardy-clean for three years now. His fans have noticed an increased creativity in his work, with less grumblings and more hope for the future. He has finally turned a corner.
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Post by spud on Feb 20, 2015 16:09:32 GMT -5
You're all wrong about Sardy. Sardy helps Noel deliver exactly what is in his head at that time, evidenced by the Don't Believe The Truth demos and other stuff that Sardy hadn't yet put his hands on not being vastly different to the final product. The reason Chasing Yesterday sounds so much better is because AA essentially indirectly produced it.
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Post by carlober on Feb 20, 2015 16:10:53 GMT -5
You're all wrong about Sardy. Sardy helps Noel deliver exactly what is in his head at that time, evidenced by the Don't Believe The Truth demos and other stuff that Sardy hadn't yet put his hands on not being vastly different to the final product. The reason Chasing Yesterday sounds so much better is because AA essentially indirectly produced it.How so? |
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Post by spud on Feb 20, 2015 16:38:39 GMT -5
You're all wrong about Sardy. Sardy helps Noel deliver exactly what is in his head at that time, evidenced by the Don't Believe The Truth demos and other stuff that Sardy hadn't yet put his hands on not being vastly different to the final product. The reason Chasing Yesterday sounds so much better is because AA essentially indirectly produced it.How so? I've no idea. |
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