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Post by spaneli on Feb 14, 2015 16:27:45 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Jeremy Stacey did all of the drumming? If he did then I think some owe him some props because the drumming on this album is pretty spot on. Honestly, seems like his drumming on HFB's was so plodding because that's what he might have been pushed to do once Sardy stepped in.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 14, 2015 16:30:31 GMT -5
Honestly, seems like his drumming on HFB's was so plodding because that's what he might have been pushed to do once Sardy stepped in. Go and listen to You Know We Can't Go Back |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 14, 2015 16:32:44 GMT -5
Honestly, seems like his drumming on HFB's was so plodding because that's what he might have been pushed to do once Sardy stepped in. Go and listen to You Know We Can't Go Back Go back and listen to the rest of the album? There are nine other songs and I think what Stacey is doing on this song actually works there. He shows a lot of versatility on this album. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 14, 2015 16:33:02 GMT -5
Jeremy's always been a very good drummer, so I really couldn't understand why he was so plodding and heavy on the drums on NGHFB and during the tour.
He did the drumming on the latest Ryan Adams album too and he was great. As he sounds excellent also on Chasing Yesterday, I'm starting to think that the shit drums on NGHFB were 100% Sardy's fault (not 50% Noel-50% Sardy as I thought). If I remember correctly, he had Noel to re-record the drums for NGHFB...
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Post by LlAM on Feb 14, 2015 16:38:38 GMT -5
LOL I was about to do the exact same thread.
I really feel Stacey ruined some of the tracks live on HFB#1 in particular If I Had A Gun and Broken Arrow.
but I must say his work on CY is brilliant and he can't fuck the songs up live cos he drummed them in the studio.
There are so many details (not only drums but also bass, synths and backing vocals) on this rip I can't wait for a better version.
This album is way better musically than any other Oasis related album.
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Post by deadman on Feb 14, 2015 16:38:56 GMT -5
Remember that arguably the only reason why Sardy got involved in NGHFB in the first place was his opinion of the drums that Noel has initially produced. Yeah, none of the drums on this new record stick out as being particularly bad, unlike a couple of tracks on NGHFB.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 14, 2015 16:41:47 GMT -5
Go and listen to You Know We Can't Go Back Go back and listen to the rest of the album? There are nine other songs and I think what Stacey is doing on this song actually works there. He shows a lot of versatility on this album. Well he bloody should, he's a professional musician, playing on a Noel Gallagher album for christ sake! Doesn't stop him plodding all the way through 5 minutes of Ballad Of The Mighty I though... |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 14, 2015 16:43:28 GMT -5
Go back and listen to the rest of the album? There are nine other songs and I think what Stacey is doing on this song actually works there. He shows a lot of versatility on this album. Well he bloody should, he's a professional musician, playing on a Noel Gallagher album for christ sake! Doesn't stop him plodding all the way through 5 minutes of Ballad Of The Mighty I though... Plodding? No. I think we both have a different definition of plodding. There's a difference between plodding and keeping the beat. He takes a nice backseat on Ballad because drums on that track aren't supposed to do more than keep the beat. And it's a nice beat that he makes. |
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Post by Thomas on Feb 14, 2015 16:47:01 GMT -5
This album drums' are great. Wise rhythms, some jazzy stuff... I knew he was a good drummer.
I blame it all on Sardy, honestly.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 14, 2015 16:53:29 GMT -5
Well he bloody should, he's a professional musician, playing on a Noel Gallagher album for christ sake! Doesn't stop him plodding all the way through 5 minutes of Ballad Of The Mighty I though... Plodding? No. I think we both have a different definition of plodding. Yes, we must have |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 16:58:33 GMT -5
Fucking hell, Sardy gets a tough deal round here. I don't like his production either but I'm sure some of you could find a way of blaming him for the holocaust if you tried hard enough!
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Post by peggysshadow on Feb 14, 2015 17:25:25 GMT -5
Fucking hell, Sardy gets a tough deal round here. I don't like his production either but I'm sure some of you could find a way of blaming him for the holocaust if you tried hard enough!  Agreed |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Feb 14, 2015 17:27:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Jeremy Stacey did all of the drumming? If he did then I think some owe him some props because the drumming on this album is pretty spot on. Honestly, seems like his drumming on HFB's was so plodding because that's what he might have been pushed to do once Sardy stepped in. He is a studio musician why are you surprised? You've got your boy Noel to blame for the disaster on the first record. |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 14, 2015 17:30:22 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Jeremy Stacey did all of the drumming? If he did then I think some owe him some props because the drumming on this album is pretty spot on. Honestly, seems like his drumming on HFB's was so plodding because that's what he might have been pushed to do once Sardy stepped in. He is a studio musician why are you surprised? You've got your boy Noel to blame for the disaster on the first record. It's because Noel has drummed on his own songs before, so yea, it's not an automatic that Stacey did all of the drumming. But you know that shouldn't come as a surprise either. Lastly, I've always said that Stacey wasn't as bad as some made him out to be. That he wasn't drumming anything that Noel didn't approve of, same with Tim Smith. But I'm sure that shouldn't come as a surprise either. |
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 14, 2015 17:47:19 GMT -5
I don't like the drums on Riverman's chorus though.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 14, 2015 17:50:53 GMT -5
He is a studio musician why are you surprised? You've got your boy Noel to blame for the disaster on the first record. It's because Noel has drummed on his own songs before, so yea, it's not an automatic that Stacey did all of the drumming. But you know that shouldn't come as a surprise either. Lastly, I've always said that Stacey wasn't as bad as some made him out to be. That he wasn't drumming anything that Noel didn't approve of, same with Tim Smith. But I'm sure that shouldn't come as a surprise either. Wrong. Jeremy is very good within his own skill set/style. He absolutely slaughtered some of the tracks in the last tour: If I Had A Gun, Broken Arrow, Little By Little. And remember, he isn't afraid of telling Noel his opinion so I'm pretty sure he had full control of how he did those songs. The benefit this time is that Jeremy has put his style into the new songs in the studio so he'll play then exactly like the record. In perspective, Alan White would sound shit on these songs if he was to replace Jeremy in tour. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 14, 2015 18:19:11 GMT -5
Jeremy's always been a very good drummer, so I really couldn't understand why he was so plodding and heavy on the drums on NGHFB and during the tour. He did the drumming on the latest Ryan Adams album too and he was great. As he sounds excellent also on Chasing Yesterday, I'm starting to think that the shit drums on NGHFB were 100% Sardy's fault (not 50% Noel-50% Sardy as I thought). If I remember correctly, he had Noel to re-record the drums for NGHFB... This is true. It could've been that the drums sounded good before they re-recorded them. Alas, we will never know. He is a great drummer and he was just told to play something, and it was produced in a certain way that made it sound like shit. On this album it sounds much better |
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Post by Thomas on Feb 14, 2015 18:26:41 GMT -5
Jeremy's always been a very good drummer, so I really couldn't understand why he was so plodding and heavy on the drums on NGHFB and during the tour. He did the drumming on the latest Ryan Adams album too and he was great. As he sounds excellent also on Chasing Yesterday, I'm starting to think that the shit drums on NGHFB were 100% Sardy's fault (not 50% Noel-50% Sardy as I thought). If I remember correctly, he had Noel to re-record the drums for NGHFB... This is true. It could've been that the drums sounded good before they re-recorded them. Alas, we will never know. He is a great drummer and he was just told to play something, and it was produced in a certain way that made it sound like shit. On this album it sounds much better That's exactly why I blame it on Sardy. The producer is behind almost everything. Didn't Noel choose him because of the drums or something like that? Of course Noel said something like "oh, I want this beat like that", but there's definitely a Sardy touch on the drums. How do I know? Well, they all were on NGHFB. Two of them were on CY. Guess who wasn't?  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 14, 2015 18:27:13 GMT -5
This is true. It could've been that the drums sounded good before they re-recorded them. Alas, we will never know. He is a great drummer and he was just told to play something, and it was produced in a certain way that made it sound like shit. On this album it sounds much better That's exactly why I blame it on Sardy. The producer is behind almost everything. Didn't Noel choose him because of the drums or something like that? Of course Noel said something like "oh, I want this beat like that", but there's definitely a Sardy touch on the drums. How do I know? Well, they all were on NGHFB. Two of them were on CY. Guess who wasn't? Exactly! |
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Post by plaskins1 on Feb 14, 2015 18:45:51 GMT -5
I would like to hear the version of NGHFB1 that Noel thought he had Nailed before Sardy told him to re-record the drums. That would be the only real way to tell what the difference was between Sardy/No Sardy
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Post by vespa on Feb 14, 2015 19:20:30 GMT -5
Some tracks are drum machines..best album in a longtime this its class
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Post by noellydlbia on Feb 15, 2015 2:19:46 GMT -5
Remember that arguably the only reason why Sardy got involved in NGHFB in the first place was his opinion of the drums that Noel has initially produced. Yeah, none of the drums on this new record stick out as being particularly bad, unlike a couple of tracks on NGHFB. Just wondering, what HFB tracks are you talking about? |
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Post by skinfullofdope on Feb 15, 2015 2:29:46 GMT -5
would'nt be surprised if terry kirkbride was involved somewhere on this album
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Post by manic on Feb 15, 2015 12:24:52 GMT -5
The drums will have to be done again....  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 15, 2015 12:57:04 GMT -5
Some tracks are drum machines..best album in a longtime this its class Really? Which ones? Haven't paid attention too well |
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