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Post by vespa on Feb 15, 2015 13:02:37 GMT -5
In the heat and mighty i id defo say are drum machines
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Feb 15, 2015 13:07:52 GMT -5
Not sure about that. To my ear it sounds like they looped his playing, like, Oasis did for the track Go Let it Out.
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Post by Thomas on Feb 15, 2015 13:10:54 GMT -5
I dont believe in ITHOTM being a drum machine. BOTMI perhaps.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Feb 15, 2015 14:23:31 GMT -5
I don't like the drums on Riverman's chorus though. That's actually one of my favourite bits on the whole album. It's funny sometimes how opinions can be so different. |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 15, 2015 14:34:46 GMT -5
In the heat and mighty i id defo say are drum machines No. I've no idea how anyone could come to such a conclusion. Just because its repetitous and monotonous? That's the way it supposed to be and perfectly serves the song. In the same way one could falsely argue that Paul Stacey's bassline from BOTMI comes straight from a Roland TB 303 (a popular synthesizer for that porpuse), which it obviously doesn't. Are you a drummer by chance? The drumming is perfectly in time, for sure, but not to the point where it sounds like a machine. It's totally organic and the resonances of actual snares and kicks are clearly hearable. |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 15, 2015 14:52:50 GMT -5
I'm convinced Jeremy did the drums on all of the tracks. Noel's said multiple that him and Jeremy/Paul Stacey had formed the core personnel in the studio. Of course there's ProTools involved, so some drum parts might have been looped or digitally processed.
Take the drum sound of ITHOTM, which to my ears comes the closest to the characteristics of a drum machine. I mean, they were obviously going for a bit of a New Order touch on that song (bass line in the verse is basically, edit: Blue Monday). I think they just tried to push that element. Noel recently said that, unlike other artists, he's even trying to enforce the similarities to other styles/bands/songs, once he notices the influence.
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Post by vespa on Feb 15, 2015 15:58:14 GMT -5
I may be wrong they just sound sampled thats all ,the fills if any are typical drum machine fills and the they literally are the same thing all way through
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Post by Riverman on Feb 23, 2015 6:33:09 GMT -5
While I really like the drumming on While The Song Remains The Same and some other songs, I never liked Stacey's drumming style generally. He doesn't lift the songs, but rather dragging them making them feel mechanic and more dull than they should be. Just my opinion.
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Post by jonno on Feb 23, 2015 9:07:46 GMT -5
Okay, this is why Stacey's drumming might have been straighter, or "sucked" on NGHFB.
Ever thought that by adding the drums last, might prevent the drummer by adding any sort of push and pull, flair, or groove to an existing track?
He was basically playing along to a click track and a finished recording. Impossible really to do anything other than lay down a straight 4/4 beat. I've tried re-doing drums like this and it's proved to be the most stressful experience I've ever had in a studio.
I'm sure Jeremy Stacey recording drums at State Of The Ark to tape via a TG console would have sounded just fine. Would have sounded pretty fuckin good in fact. Wasting Noel and Jeremy's time by re-recording the drums his way basically would have been Sardy's way of ensuring his stamp was put on NGHFB. Just my theory anyway. People I know who have worked with him found him to be pretty manipulative, in a fashion such as this.
Has anyone gotten to the bottom of why he knocked back doing this latest record?
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Post by thecatinthehat on Feb 23, 2015 9:11:02 GMT -5
Has anyone gotten to the bottom of why he knocked back doing this latest record? It was by necessity. I took the songs in demo form to my producer of the last ten years, Dave Sardy. And he passed because he’s getting into the film industry, because obviously the music industry is dying on its fucking ass. |
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