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Post by oasis6 on Feb 16, 2015 0:15:40 GMT -5
Given it a good 7 or 8 listens since the leak.
Riverman 9/10
I love this as an opener, the solo and the sax are mega.
In the Heat of the Moment 6/10
One of the weaker songs on the album, though it sounds fresh and when he goes "And the moooooore" its pretty infectious.
The Girl with the X-Ray Eyes 8/10
I like the flow of this song and I find the solo to be mental. Lady Picture Show's solo on acid.
Lock All The Doors 6.5/10
Gotta say I'm disappointed. Its way too fast and rushed sounding. Prefer the demo.
The Dying of the Light 8/10
I found this song has gone up and down for me, depends on your mood. I find it similar to If I Had A Gun and Everybody's on the run, where if you are in the mood for these songs they are mega, if you aren't in the mood, they kind of plod along... Though at least this one does not suffer through Sardy's muddiness.
The Right Stuff 8.5/10
This song is awesome. Love the female vocalist. The right stuff part is very infectious. Song is constantly in my head.
While the Song Remains the Same 10/10
True perfection (has to be imperfect?). Flows in a magical way, takes you on a journey. The little guitar bits after certain lyrics are pure genius.
The Mexican 5/10
Whenever a Gallagher comes out with this type of "stomper", I'm never usually a fan. Songs like this, Do the Damage, Face the Crowd or like Force of Nature (I find they have similarities) are just not my cup of tea when it comes to anything Gallagher. It's going to be a skipper for me.
You Know We Can't Go Back 7/10
I do like the young feeling of this song, but I don't know it just doesn't do much for me in the end. It feels like its missing something. Could still be a grower.
Ballad of the Mighty I 9/10
Love this one a lot, great beat and I love the emotion. The "whatever your hiding behind your veil" part hits another level for me.
7.7/10
Overall I think its a great album, and it is better than NGHFB 1. As people said, the production and the grooves put it on another level. I feel if Sardy produced this, it would have been brought down. Other than maybe 3 or 4 songs, I can't say there are masterpieces, but the grooves and production really help.
But like NGHFB 1, I feel it may end up being an album you have to be in the mood for in the end. Like I guess you need to be in the mood to listen to any album. But like you could put on WTSMG anytime and I'd be up for it and in love with it all. Whereas there are times where I listen to NGHFB 1 and I realize I'm not in the mood, I'll skip a bunch of songs. And there are already a couple songs I wouldn't mind skipping on CY. But not to put a damper on it, I still think it is really, really good, just not incredibly brilliant. And again, the grooves really help.
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Post by madferit89 on Feb 16, 2015 0:52:43 GMT -5
Given it a good 7 or 8 listens since the leak. Riverman 9/10I love this as an opener, the solo and the sax are mega. In the Heat of the Moment 6/10One of the weaker songs on the album, though it sounds fresh and when he goes "And the moooooore" its pretty infectious. The Girl with the X-Ray Eyes 8/10I like the flow of this song and I find the solo to be mental. Lady Picture Show's solo on acid. Lock All The Doors 6.5/10Gotta say I'm disappointed. Its way too fast and rushed sounding. Prefer the demo. The Dying of the Light 8/10I found this song has gone up and down for me, depends on your mood. I find it similar to If I Had A Gun and Everybody's on the run, where if you are in the mood for these songs they are mega, if you aren't in the mood, they kind of plod along... Though at least this one does not suffer through Sardy's muddiness. The Right Stuff 8.5/10This song is awesome. Love the female vocalist. The right stuff part is very infectious. Song is constantly in my head. While the Song Remains the Same 10/10True perfection (has to be imperfect?). Flows in a magical way, takes you on a journey. The little guitar bits after certain lyrics are pure genius. The Mexican 5/10Whenever a Gallagher comes out with this type of "stomper", I'm never usually a fan. Songs like this, Do the Damage, Face the Crowd or like Force of Nature (I find they have similarities) are just not my cup of tea when it comes to anything Gallagher. It's going to be a skipper for me. You Know We Can't Go Back 7/10I do like the young feeling of this song, but I don't know it just doesn't do much for me in the end. It feels like its missing something. Could still be a grower. Ballad of the Mighty I 9/10Love this one a lot, great beat and I love the emotion. The "whatever your hiding behind your veil" part hits another level for me. 7.7/10Overall I think its a great album, and it is better than NGHFB 1. As people said, the production and the grooves put it on another level. I feel if Sardy produced this, it would have been brought down. Other than maybe 3 or 4 songs, I can't say there are masterpieces, but the grooves and production really help. But like NGHFB 1, I feel it may end up being an album you have to be in the mood for in the end. Like I guess you need to be in the mood to listen to any album. But like you could put on WTSMG anytime and I'd be up for it and in love with it all. Whereas there are times where I listen to NGHFB 1 and I realize I'm not in the mood, I'll skip a bunch of songs. And there are already a couple songs I wouldn't mind skipping on CY. But not to put a damper on it, I still think it is really, really good, just not incredibly brilliant. And again, the grooves really help. Spot on mate.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Feb 16, 2015 4:36:13 GMT -5
As someone who couldn't understand why DGSS became shit as soon as HFB came out, can someone please explain why this album is being rated as "far better" than HFB but only getting 7 off the same reviewer?
So now HFB is Noel "playing it safe and boring" and is a 5 or 6, where as at the time it was superb and best since BHN?
Crazy how your lots opinions of former albums change so rapidly because you get new material
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Post by vespa on Feb 16, 2015 4:45:57 GMT -5
The first album was noel doing what noel does best writing pop/acoustic gems with the odd twist thrown in , its a great solid album .Chasing yesterday is several steps up in class and the songwriting and prodcution is simply better. Noel is back and this album is the best ive heard in years
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Post by carlober on Feb 16, 2015 4:49:02 GMT -5
As someone who couldn't understand why DGSS became shit as soon as HFB came out, can someone please explain why this album is being rated as "far better" than HFB but only getting 7 off the same reviewer? So now HFB is Noel "playing it safe and boring" and is a 5 or 6, where as at the time it was superb and best since BHN? Crazy how your lots opinions of former albums change so rapidly because you get new material It always happens with a new release. Excitement kills objectivity. In my opinion HFB is a great album: it's got many excellent tunes in it, even if some of them were partially ruined by poor choices or stale production. I'm not as excited about it as it was when it went out in 2011, but I think it's still better and more solid than any Oasis release post SOTSOG and (yes, knowing your opinion I guess you won't like what I'm saying) any Beady Eye album. While HFB was just Noel being himself again, with this album he decided to step a bit out of his comfort zone and the result is a much more fresh and enjoyable album, at least in my opinion
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 16, 2015 4:58:34 GMT -5
Riverman - 9/10 In the Heat of the Moment - 7.5/10 The Girl with the X-Ray Eyes - 8/10 Lock All the Doors - 8.5/10 The Dying of the Light - 9/10 The Right Stuff - 9/10 While the Song Remains the Same - 6/10 The Mexican - 8/10 You Know We Can't Go Back - 8.5/10 The Ballad of the Mighty I - 8.5
Overall - 8.5
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 16, 2015 5:09:27 GMT -5
I don't know, there's something strange in the production/remix. I hope it's the quality but sometimes Noel's voice is too low, or the instruments are too high. Like in You Know We can't go back, fuckin' hell, the drums are almost higher than Noel's voice in the chorus
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 16, 2015 5:19:36 GMT -5
I don't know, there's something strange in the production/remix. I hope it's the quality but sometimes Noel's voice is too low, or the instruments are too high. Like in You Know We can't go back, fuckin' hell, the drums are almost higher than Noel's voice in the chorus I've noticed this too it could either be the quality of Rip or it could be he's recorded his vocal first and built the music around it (like what Beady eye, they said in oasis (sardy era at least) the track be finished and he'd do his vocal over the top) Maybe not but I think Noels voice fit with the songs better on this album
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Post by andymorris on Feb 16, 2015 5:21:30 GMT -5
As someone who couldn't understand why DGSS became shit as soon as HFB came out, can someone please explain why this album is being rated as "far better" than HFB but only getting 7 off the same reviewer? So now HFB is Noel "playing it safe and boring" and is a 5 or 6, where as at the time it was superb and best since BHN? Crazy how your lots opinions of former albums change so rapidly because you get new material It always happens with a new release. Excitement kills objectivity. In my opinion HFB is a great album: it's got many excellent tunes in it, even if some of them were partially ruined by poor choices or stale production. I'm not as excited about it as it was when it went out in 2011, but I think it's still better and more solid than any Oasis release post SOTSOG and (yes, knowing your opinion I guess you won't like what I'm saying) any Beady Eye album. While HFB was just Noel being himself again, with this album he decided to step a bit out of his comfort zone and the result is a much more fresh and enjoyable album, at least in my opinion I rate HFB as a 8/10 record : they're very different but good in their own way. HFB doesn't really have a shitty track on it, but STC and Record Machine are kinda ruined by the production. But it has huge tracks such as Everybody's on the Run, Death of you and me and Broken Arrow. This record don't have any obvious singles like HFB 1 but the quality is there : less obvious melodies, but great instrumentation. Again, i dont like 3 songs on it, but the bsides will make up for that. So to me, it's a tie. HFB 1 is a record for late afternoon, this one is for the late night. Very different way of listening to both. As for DGSS : half good and BE : very good record with the bsides included and some tracks removed.
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 16, 2015 5:23:58 GMT -5
I don't know, there's something strange in the production/remix. I hope it's the quality but sometimes Noel's voice is too low, or the instruments are too high. Like in You Know We can't go back, fuckin' hell, the drums are almost higher than Noel's voice in the chorus I've noticed this too it could either be the quality of Rip or it could be he's recorded his vocal first and built the music around it (like what Beady eye, they said in oasis (sardy era at least) the track be finished and he'd do his vocal over the top) Maybe not but I think Noels voice fit with the songs better on this album I hope it's the quality. Really, maybe I'm listening to another album but in some parts I really need to concentrate to hear Noel's voice well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 6:15:06 GMT -5
As someone who couldn't understand why DGSS became shit as soon as HFB came out, can someone please explain why this album is being rated as "far better" than HFB but only getting 7 off the same reviewer? So now HFB is Noel "playing it safe and boring" and is a 5 or 6, where as at the time it was superb and best since BHN? Crazy how your lots opinions of former albums change so rapidly because you get new material I know what you mean, but I think you can more than one opinion of an album - NGHFB is a superb album, but it's also safe and occasionally plodding. Chasing Yesterday makes HFB looks safe and boring and of course people are inclined to hyperbole on release. I think when the dust settles people will regard it like this... DGSS: Poor debut, unimaginative and lazy with occasional signs of promise 5.5/10 BE: The conclusion of these promises to their logical end, better than DGSS but still mediocre as a whole with FOTF as a standout. 6.5/10 NGHFB: Better than all of Beady Eyes albums, and most of Oasis'. Extremely solid and consistent but somewhat safe and often plodding. Bad production ruins many potentially great songs. 7.5/10 CY: The best of the bunch. Explores plenty of new avenues and provides some potential classics with great production and a modern sound. 8.5/10
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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 16, 2015 7:18:04 GMT -5
HO-LEE-FUCK! I just heard the album for the first time last night at around 1 in the morning. Very appropriate setting/time if you ask me I was absolutely blown away. THIS is the quality we expect from Noel. I can't be the only one that thinks the version of The Dying Of The Light is AT LEAST as good as Wonderwall. It literally screams "Wonderwall Pt. 2" to me. The first 5 or 6 tracks are flat-out excellent. The rest are fine but rely more on their sonic experimentation, imo. Nothing wrong with that. My biggest issue, however, is that Lock All The Doors isn't longer. I need that song to be longer. IT gets stuck in my head and then I have to press repeat, haha Overall, the album actually reminds me alot of some Paul Weller for some reason..... 9/10. Easy. And Im a huge HFB1 fan GREAT FUCKING FANTASTIC JOB NOEL!!!!!!!!! I can honestly say I was GRINNING from ear to ear almost the whole time I listened to it. I literally was trying to make myself stop and I just couldn't. I was scremaing in my head and damn near hyperventilating like an asthmatic school girl. My litmus test for new Noel is "Is it as good as his stuff on DBTT?" This albums takes DBTT, straps it to a nuke and sends it to the sun with a middle finger. I'm the kinda person that almost always hypes for an album and then doesn't listen to it for 2 years until the next one comes out. This is the first time since Rush's "Clockwork Angels" in 2012 I have felt so great about an album.
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Post by space75gr on Feb 16, 2015 7:30:26 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday : My Verdict
Riverman - 10/10 Amazing tune in every level. In the Heat of the Moment - 7/10 It seems definitely out of place as track 2.It should be before TBOTMI,to fit with the night/dancey vibe of the 2nd side of the album. Final production destroyed a very good track/melody, make it sound cheap and forgettable and the nananas make it really awful and annoying to hear. Replace the nanana with whistles or an organ and we get a total new great song. The Girl with the X-Ray Eyes - 8/10 Love with the first listen.It could be a 9,5/10 with Liam on vocals (Noel's vocals cant seem to stand in the whole track) and with a more clear production (somehow, even if the instrumentation is amazing, it sounds "stuffy') Lock All the Doors - 3/10 A classic/great oasis tune that turns to an AOR-bland "rocker".Sadly it sounds worst than a soft rock hair band (of the 80s) at middle age.The song screams desperately for Liam vocals (and better guitars).Another throw away of a classic oasis song (see also STC, RM) The Dying of the Light - 9/10 Classic Noel, beautiful melody very close to his best moments of the 90s.(I imagine Liam singing this at studio with a wall sound of guitars and Noel on live gigs with his acoustic guitar only...) The Right Stuff - 8/10 The most interesting track on the album.High verdict from me even if its not that good and i m not in love with it but i admire the fact that its almost the first time to hear something different from Noel, out of his comfort zone. While the Song Remains the Same - 6/10 For a few listen its ok but i find it forgettable and weak.Fits good in the 2nd side/mood of the album. The Mexican - 1/10 What the F**k is that?One of the worst NoelG songs ever! Really offensive, rippin off unsuccessfully a really great BRMC song.Even worst than the worst Beady Eye moment. You Know We Can't Go Back - 4/10 Soft rock/AOR, again, in the same vibe with LOTD and Noel's vocals make it sound even worse and bland. The Ballad of the Mighty I - 8/10 Even if its the same song again (WAL, ITHOTM, FD) at least its very good (not classic Noel).i love the melancholic vocals and instrumentation and i d love to hear a good remix of that song.
verdict : 64/100 (6,4/10)
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Post by tonethestone1 on Feb 16, 2015 8:00:46 GMT -5
Had quite a few listens now and I'd go; Riverman - 10/10 In the Heat of the Moment - 7 The Girl with the X-Ray Eyes - 9 Lock All the Doors - 8 The Dying of the Light - 9 The Right Stuff - 9.5 While the Song Remains the Same - 8.5 The Mexican - 7.5 You Know We Can't Go Back - 8 The Ballad of the Mighty I - 8.5 Do the Damage - 7/10
ALBUM 8/10. Can see it only getting better on listens.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 16, 2015 9:03:30 GMT -5
As someone who couldn't understand why DGSS became shit as soon as HFB came out, can someone please explain why this album is being rated as "far better" than HFB but only getting 7 off the same reviewer? So now HFB is Noel "playing it safe and boring" and is a 5 or 6, where as at the time it was superb and best since BHN? Crazy how your lots opinions of former albums change so rapidly because you get new material I think both debut albums went exactly how many of us predicted they would go. Safe and straight forward. DGSS contained a couple standout tunes (Four Letter Word, The Roller and The Morning Son) but some of the other material was tainted by poor production and cliche lyrics. DGSS is pretty much how I thought Beady Eye would go for album #1. I was thrilled they decided to go modern on their sophomore release. Dave Sitek did a tremendous job creating new sonic landscapes. I really wanted a third album by Beady Eye. Oh well. Despite the early rumors of Noel making a bizarre album (later to be revealed as the AA project) I think we all knew Noel was going to play this one extremely safe to kick off his much anticipated solo career. The new songs are all phenomenal (not Record Machine or Stop The Clocks). The execution of the production for me was a little off. It sounded like it was trying to be a 1966 Kinks record. All I've wanted from Oasis, Noel and Liam is to finally sound.........modern. I got back too much throwback Rock between 2001 and 2009. The boys needed a sonic face lift. HFB is the most complete I've heard a Gallagher record since 1997. I was never a fan of Noel giving up 100% of the songwriting. Although I did warm up to it when Liam was offering songs like Songbird, Born On A Different Cloud, Boy With The Blues and I'm Outta Time. Liam can write a tune but maybe just one an album. In the end, both debuts for me went as I envisioned. It's the follow up releases that make things much more interesting. Both Gallaghers delivered on that promise.
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 16, 2015 9:53:43 GMT -5
Finally found it in a decent quality. God, it was proper shit the version I had before.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Feb 16, 2015 9:58:02 GMT -5
Finally found it in a decent quality. God, it was proper shit the version I had before. There is only one version of the leak.
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 16, 2015 9:59:22 GMT -5
Finally found it in a decent quality. God, it was proper shit the version I had before. There is only one version of the leak. I can assure you that this sounds different. I can hear Noel on You know we can't go back, which is 9MB instead of I don't remember
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Feb 16, 2015 10:03:24 GMT -5
Yeah they encoded 128 mb mp3s to 320.
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Post by spud on Feb 16, 2015 10:09:51 GMT -5
Wish a true 320kbps would hurry up and leak.
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 16, 2015 10:12:12 GMT -5
Yeah they encoded 128 mb mp3s to 320. Well, this is like arabic for me
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Post by stinenat on Feb 16, 2015 10:13:25 GMT -5
Riverman, 7/10
Heat of the Moment, 8/10
Girl with x-ray eyes, 5/10
Lock all the doors, 8/10
Dying of the light, 9/10
The Right stuff. 9/10
Song remains the same, 6/10
The mexican, 6/10
you know we cant go back, 7/10
ballad of the might I, 9/10
ITHOTM and BOTMI I have listened to many many times, and love both, but they've also both grown on my a lot, I think the rest of the album will as well.
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Post by ariananana on Feb 16, 2015 10:16:50 GMT -5
HO-LEE-FUCK! I just heard the album for the first time last night at around 1 in the morning. Very appropriate setting/time if you ask me I was absolutely blown away. THIS is the quality we expect from Noel. I can't be the only one that thinks the version of The Dying Of The Light is AT LEAST as good as Wonderwall. It literally screams "Wonderwall Pt. 2" to me. The first 5 or 6 tracks are flat-out excellent. The rest are fine but rely more on their sonic experimentation, imo. Nothing wrong with that. My biggest issue, however, is that Lock All The Doors isn't longer. I need that song to be longer. IT gets stuck in my head and then I have to press repeat, haha Overall, the album actually reminds me alot of some Paul Weller for some reason..... 9/10. Easy. And Im a huge HFB1 fan GREAT FUCKING FANTASTIC JOB NOEL!!!!!!!!! I can honestly say I was GRINNING from ear to ear almost the whole time I listened to it. I literally was trying to make myself stop and I just couldn't. I was scremaing in my head and damn near hyperventilating like an asthmatic school girl. My litmus test for new Noel is "Is it as good as his stuff on DBTT?" This albums takes DBTT, straps it to a nuke and sends it to the sun with a middle finger. I'm the kinda person that almost always hypes for an album and then doesn't listen to it for 2 years until the next one comes out. This is the first time since Rush's "Clockwork Angels" in 2012 I have felt so great about an album. This makes me really happy love the enthusiasm!!!
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Post by glider on Feb 16, 2015 10:19:07 GMT -5
As someone who couldn't understand why DGSS became shit as soon as HFB came out, can someone please explain why this album is being rated as "far better" than HFB but only getting 7 off the same reviewer? So now HFB is Noel "playing it safe and boring" and is a 5 or 6, where as at the time it was superb and best since BHN? Crazy how your lots opinions of former albums change so rapidly because you get new material I think both debut albums went exactly how many of us predicted they would go. Safe and straight forward. DGSS contained a couple standout tunes (Four Letter Word, The Roller and The Morning Son) but some of the other material was tainted by poor production and cliche lyrics. DGSS is pretty much how I thought Beady Eye would go for album #1. I was thrilled they decided to go modern on their sophomore release. Dave Sitek did a tremendous job creating new sonic landscapes. I really wanted a third album by Beady Eye. Oh well. Despite the early rumors of Noel making a bizarre album (later to be revealed as the AA project) I think we all knew Noel was going to play this one extremely safe to kick off his much anticipated solo career. The new songs are all phenomenal (not Record Machine or Stop The Clocks). The execution of the production for me was a little off. It sounded like it was trying to be a 1966 Kinks record. All I've wanted from Oasis, Noel and Liam is to finally sound.........modern. I got back too much throwback Rock between 2001 and 2009. The boys needed a sonic face lift. HFB is the most complete I've heard a Gallagher record since 1997. I was never a fan of Noel giving up 100% of the songwriting. Although I did warm up to it when Liam was offering songs like Songbird, Born On A Different Cloud, Boy With The Blues and I'm Outta Time. Liam can write a tune but maybe just one an album. In the end, both debuts for me went as I envisioned. It's the follow up releases that make things much more interesting. Both Gallaghers delivered on that promise. I do adore Record Machine and Stop the Clocks, but the production on the album versions compared to the Oasis demos is utter garbage. The biggest setback on HFB1 was Sardy's grandiose production that wasn't needed whatsoever. I cannot stand the choirs at all, and was upset that the solo on Record Machine was lowered in volume for a big wall of sound that was pointless. As you said, aside from the ridiculous production on some of the tunes, it is a very solid debut album and sounded like something we fans would expect from post-BHN/SOTSOG Noel, aside from What A Life which was a breath of fresh air for me. As for Beady Eye, DGSS was very predictable and boring compared to HFB1, as it kept hammering Beatles, Stones, and Who influences. Production was definitely sloppy, especially on The Morning Son which is a good song, but given a long outro and echoes. BE was the album they needed, and contained great production thanks to Sitek, but the songs at best were not the best. BE really put Beady Eye on the chopping block and made them realize it wasn't sloppy production holding them back, but poor songwriting. CY is a great follow-up album to an otherwise solid record. We get to hear a more modernized Noel that is able to take his Definitely Maybe/ Morning Glory and Be Here Now phase and evolve it into something of today's standards. It sounds nothing like anything he's done in Oasis in the 2000s, and that's a good thing.
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Post by awoniho on Feb 16, 2015 10:24:34 GMT -5
Can someone please PM a working link. I can't find it anywhere.
Thank you very much!
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